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If a bunch of physicists and engineers who are expert in pool tell you that what you are saying doesn't make sense then maybe a little introspection is in order.
ROTFLMAO!! What an overblown ego coupled with a false superiority complex that is completely meaningless. Name one physicist or engineer that EVER was even a pro player let alone a top one in the entire history of pool.
There are very few pro players that ever went to college and a number of them didn't even finish high school.
Here's a few NON engineers: Efren, Bustamante, Earl, Mosconi, Shane, and the list goes on and on. How do they play and
what do you think they know that YOU don't?

Most of you play like shit and have never done anything in the way of playing tournaments or gambled for sizable money. How about any money?!

If a bunch of physicists and engineers who THINK they're experts in pool tell anybody what they're saying doesn't make sense is because they're minds are shut to reality, and they can't get out of their own way by sticking to 2D drawings and bone head ways of aiming and handling the cue in straight lines. I think the introspection should be done on YOUR parts along with
a lot of realty. You all are living in a make-believe-fairy-tale LA-LA Land.

What I've learned over the years is you pseudo intellectual know it all's in pool who talk a big game are really a bunch of losers when it actually comes to playing the game at an elevated level, especially when something big is on the line like a tournament or money. Some of you are decent basement players with nothing on the line though. Big deal.
 
ROTFLMAO!! What an overblown ego coupled with a false superiority complex that is completely meaningless. Name one physicist or engineer that EVER was even a pro player let alone a top one in the entire history of pool.
There are very few pro players that ever went to college and a number of them didn't even finish high school.
Here's a few NON engineers: Efren, Bustamante, Earl, Mosconi, Shane, and the list goes on and on. How do they play and
what do you think they know that YOU don't?

Most of you play like shit and have never done anything in the way of playing tournaments or gambled for sizable money. How about any money?!

If a bunch of physicists and engineers who THINK they're experts in pool tell anybody what they're saying doesn't make sense is because they're minds are shut to reality, and they can't get out of their own way by sticking to 2D drawings and bone head ways of aiming and handling the cue in straight lines. I think the introspection should be done on YOUR parts along with
a lot of realty. You all are living in a make-believe-fairy-tale LA-LA Land.

What I've learned over the years is you pseudo intellectual know it all's in pool who talk a big game are really a bunch of losers when it actually comes to playing the game at an elevated level, especially when something big is on the line like a tournament or money. Some of you are decent basement players with nothing on the line though. Big deal.
Everyone in here has action. LFG !!!!!!
 
ROTFLMAO!! What an overblown ego coupled with a false superiority complex that is completely meaningless. Name one physicist or engineer that EVER was even a pro player let alone a top one in the entire history of pool.
There are very few pro players that ever went to college and a number of them didn't even finish high school.
Here's a few NON engineers: Efren, Bustamante, Earl, Mosconi, Shane, and the list goes on and on. How do they play and
what do you think they know that YOU don't?

Most of you play like shit and have never done anything in the way of playing tournaments or gambled for sizable money. How about any money?!

If a bunch of physicists and engineers who THINK they're experts in pool tell anybody what they're saying doesn't make sense is because they're minds are shut to reality, and they can't get out of their own way by sticking to 2D drawings and bone head ways of aiming and handling the cue in straight lines. I think the introspection should be done on YOUR parts along with
a lot of realty. You all are living in a make-believe-fairy-tale LA-LA Land.

What I've learned over the years is you pseudo intellectual know it all's in pool who talk a big game are really a bunch of losers when it actually comes to playing the game at an elevated level, especially when something big is on the line like a tournament or money. Some of you are decent basement players with nothing on the line though. Big deal.
You simply don't get it. We're not talking about scientists pretending to be experts at pool. We're talking about a pool player (CTE inventor) who is pretending to be a scientist.

If you have a scientist who has not achieved a relatively high level of ability at pool then I'd say it would be beneficial if they had. We have scientists who have won national titles, others who are respected instructors, and still others with no trophies to show but have decades worth of playing experience. I say this experience in pool more than qualifies as that pool background that would be nice (but not completely necessary) to have in an expert scientist.

If you want to know how to win a tournament then go see Mike Sigel. If you want to know why balls behave the way they do then go see Dr. Dave or Bob Jewett. Stan is a better pool player than either of those two guys so maybe they could learn something from him about winning tournaments, playing under pressure, or how he likes to aim. If, however, Stan wants to understand why his aiming system works for him maybe he could talk to Dave or Bob and learn something. That's all I'm saying. It would be nice for the scientist to have a basic understanding of pool (and there are many of those) and by the same token it would be nice for Stan to have an understanding of science and experimental design, which he appears not to have.

You're too emotionally involved to think clearly on this one.
 
You simply don't get it. We're not talking about scientists pretending to be experts at pool. We're talking about a pool player (CTE inventor) who is pretending to be a scientist.

If you have a scientist who has not achieved a relatively high level of ability at pool then I'd say it would be beneficial if they had. We have scientists who have won national titles, others who are respected instructors, and still others with no trophies to show but have decades worth of playing experience. I say this experience in pool more than qualifies as that pool background that would be nice (but not completely necessary) to have in an expert scientist.

If you want to know how to win a tournament then go see Mike Sigel. If you want to know why balls behave the way they do then go see Dr. Dave or Bob Jewett. Stan is a better pool player than either of those two guys so maybe they could learn something from him about winning tournaments, playing under pressure, or how he likes to aim. If, however, Stan wants to understand why his aiming system works for him maybe he could talk to Dave or Bob and learn something. That's all I'm saying. It would be nice for the scientist to have a basic understanding of pool (and there are many of those) and by the same token it would be nice for Stan to have an understanding of science and experimental design, which he appears not to have.

You're too emotionally involved to think clearly on this one.
No you basically said scientists have disproven CTE but when questioned have provided no names or proof. False accusations on your part is all we get.
 
You simply don't get it. We're not talking about scientists pretending to be experts at pool. We're talking about a pool player (CTE inventor) who is pretending to be a scientist.

If you have a scientist who has not achieved a relatively high level of ability at pool then I'd say it would be beneficial if they had. We have scientists who have won national titles, others who are respected instructors, and still others with no trophies to show but have decades worth of playing experience. I say this experience in pool more than qualifies as that pool background that would be nice (but not completely necessary) to have in an expert scientist.

If you want to know how to win a tournament then go see Mike Sigel. If you want to know why balls behave the way they do then go see Dr. Dave or Bob Jewett. Stan is a better pool player than either of those two guys so maybe they could learn something from him about winning tournaments, playing under pressure, or how he likes to aim. If, however, Stan wants to understand why his aiming system works for him maybe he could talk to Dave or Bob and learn something. That's all I'm saying. It would be nice for the scientist to have a basic understanding of pool (and there are many of those) and by the same token it would be nice for Stan to have an understanding of science and experimental design, which he appears not to have.

You're too emotionally involved to think clearly on this one.
Continued false accusations. It’s a shame you aren’t made to back up these things you post.
 
The homoerotic tension in this thread is a bit troubling...

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Guard your pooper fellas.
 
Now it seems you are baiting me. Why not just stay out of a discussion you have no intention of contributing to? I saw your first post asking if I was stirring the pot. My reaction was 1) you are stirring the pot by making such a post 2) what the hell business is it of yours? That's why I ignored you but now you can't seem to stop.
Dan, you need to find an action game. Give a spot if you must. Rob the locals a bit. Shooting fish in a barrel gets old after a while! ;)
😅 🤣
 
ROTFLMAO!! What an overblown ego coupled with a false superiority complex that is completely meaningless. Name one physicist or engineer that EVER was even a pro player let alone a top one in the entire history of pool.
There are very few pro players that ever went to college and a number of them didn't even finish high school.
Here's a few NON engineers: Efren, Bustamante, Earl, Mosconi, Shane, and the list goes on and on. How do they play and
what do you think they know that YOU don't?

Most of you play like shit and have never done anything in the way of playing tournaments or gambled for sizable money. How about any money?!

If a bunch of physicists and engineers who THINK they're experts in pool tell anybody what they're saying doesn't make sense is because they're minds are shut to reality, and they can't get out of their own way by sticking to 2D drawings and bone head ways of aiming and handling the cue in straight lines. I think the introspection should be done on YOUR parts along with
a lot of realty. You all are living in a make-believe-fairy-tale LA-LA Land.

What I've learned over the years is you pseudo intellectual know it all's in pool who talk a big game are really a bunch of losers when it actually comes to playing the game at an elevated level, especially when something big is on the line like a tournament or money. Some of you are decent basement players with nothing on the line though. Big deal.
Spidey,
I no longer see anything but the EXACT shot. Cue ball position is automatic. If luck/rolls give me the ol' FU#*erino, I shoot the shot. If not possible, an airtight safety. If my winning percentage is favorable, am I using CTE?

I have great spacial awareness. One walk around the table and the 6 pockets are locked. Once I adjust to climate/equipment, I cannot miss. 6 pockets. A rectangle, with four ninety degree sides. Am I incorrect in playing the game as a binary exercise? Safe or runout? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. 9 ball is my comfort zone ATM. If I'm playing anything else, I just call the "slop" and it goes.

90 degrees divided into 3 angles seems odd. I shoot for a 22.5 degree leave and just shoot the easy shot.
 
No you basically said scientists have disproven CTE but when questioned have provided no names or proof. False accusations on your part is all we get.
Continued false accusations. It’s a shame you aren’t made to back up these things you post.
Uhh, well I gave you two names. Dr. Dave actually mocks the whole thing with his DAM or Dave's Aiming Method. Bob is on record way back in the HH days, as are many others. The thing is they have made their conclusions and moved on. At some point I guess they feel that continuing to point out the folly in a fellow instructor's method is bad form... professional courtesy. After all, it's pool not medicine. A student will eventually draw their own conclusions.
 
Uhh, well I gave you two names. Dr. Dave actually mocks the whole thing with his DAM or Dave's Aiming Method. Bob is on record way back in the HH days, as are many others. The thing is they have made their conclusions and moved on. At some point I guess they feel that continuing to point out the folly in a fellow instructor's method is bad form... professional courtesy. After all, it's pool not medicine. A student will eventually draw their own conclusions.
Are they the many engineers or the many scientists lol. Can either one of them describe and demonstrate how to perform a proper CTE shot ? Have either one of them spent time with Stan so they could properly determine whether or not CTE does exactly what it does or not? We all know the answers to those questions.
Biden blamed Putin, do you believe him?
MANY STUDENTS, real live students, are coming to there own conclusions as multiple State Champions have learnt and are using CTE.
 
Uhh, well I gave you two names. Dr. Dave actually mocks the whole thing with his DAM or Dave's Aiming Method. Bob is on record way back in the HH days, as are many others. The thing is they have made their conclusions and moved on. At some point I guess they feel that continuing to point out the folly in a fellow instructor's method is bad form... professional courtesy. After all, it's pool not medicine. A student will eventually draw their own conclusions.
Bob Jewett was the first know it all to meet Hal Houle in person at a pool room somewhere in California. And yes, he proved himself to be a know it all as Hal calmly and coolly made him look like a yo-yo. He has posted negatively over the years about CTE and Hal.

Dr. Dave is another of the "I'm a Ph.D." know it all group.

Both of them are members of the PBIA as is Stan and Randy. The highest designation that can be given is MASTER INSTRUCTOR and the requirements have to meet extremely high standards. It requires a lot of energy and time.

Alciatore recently got his Master Instructor designation. Jewett is not a Master Instructor. Stan and Randy are Master Instructors and Randy has always been a proponent of CTE from the very beginning with Hal.

This is what is required to become an instructor and Master Instructor: (click the link)
Become a PBIA Instructor – PBIA (playbetterbilliards.com)

The PBIA also has a very strict CODE OF CONDUCT for its members:
PBIA Instructor Code of Conduct

This is the standard by which all PBIA instructors provide services to students and commit to continuous improvement.
  • My primary obligation is to help my students improve their playing skills and gain a greater understanding of the game.
  • My instruction techniques will incorporate effective, positive teaching techniques.
  • I will conduct my instruction in accordance with my level of certification and/or my knowledge and ability.
  • I will maintain high professional standards in all aspects of instruction.
  • To ensure that instructional behavior is not misunderstood, situations that require some physical guidance properly position a student’s body will be preceded by a full explanation and a request for permission.
  • I will continuously strive to advance my instructional skills training materials.

  • I will refrain from making disparaging remarks and false statements about fellow PBIA INSTRUCTORS,
  • their published work, the staff supporting the program or the program in general.

  • I will contribute to the development and success of the PBIA.
  • I will seek the permission of the BCA, the organizing body of the PBIA, prior to using the PBIA logo/brand for any commercial or promotional purposes that would lead the general public to believe the PBIA is endorsing or supporting the effort being undertaken by the PBIA Instructor.
If you experience any PBIA Instructors not following the Code of Conduct as stated above please feel free to let us know at rob@pbia-instructor.com or 303.243.5070 x23, and we will address you concerns with you.

I can guarantee this, IF I ever see another post by either of them disparaging CTE or Stan again, I will go on a personal mission to contact the PBIA and do everything possible to have them disciplined or ousted from the PBIA for breaking the rules in the Code of Conduct.

If CTE was bogus and put out there for nothing more than personal gain, the PBIA would have shut it down as something
invaluable and incorrect a long time ago.

They make the rules and decisions on systems or teaching methods and carry them out. Not you, not PJ, not sycophant followers on a pool forum. You are nothing more than wannabe ZEROS in the world of pool just as I am.
But at least I know what works and is benefitting players all over the world. Get a life already!
 
You simply don't get it. We're not talking about scientists pretending to be experts at pool. We're talking about a pool player (CTE inventor) who is pretending to be a scientist.
What an idiotic statement. We're talking about a Master Instructor member in the PBIA doing what he does which is TEACH AN AIMING SYSTEM IN POOL that USES UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT VISUALS TO MAKE BALLS MORE ACCURATELY.
If you have a scientist who has not achieved a relatively high level of ability at pool then I'd say it would be beneficial if they had. We have scientists who have won national titles, others who are respected instructors, and still others with no trophies to show but have decades worth of playing experience. I say this experience in pool more than qualifies as that pool background that would be nice (but not completely necessary) to have in an expert scientist.
How many scientists have won national titles and who are THEY? And who are the "others" with no trophies to show but have decades of experience? Decades of experience means nothing. It's like a guy who has been playing golf for 35 years and still can't break 90. Name the people you're alluding to.
If you want to know how to win a tournament then go see Mike Sigel. If you want to know why balls behave the way they do then go see Dr. Dave or Bob Jewett. Stan is a better pool player than either of those two guys so maybe they could learn something from him about winning tournaments, playing under pressure, or how he likes to aim. If, however, Stan wants to understand why his aiming system works for him maybe he could talk to Dave or Bob and learn something. That's all I'm saying.
Another total group of bullshit statements. Balls behave the way they do based on what the player does to make them behave to pocket balls and get position. It's a part of why Stan is a better player than either of those 2 guys. (I applaud you for at least acknowledging that). You can't win as many tournaments as Stan has or teach pro players along with his son who is the winningest Junior in the history of pool if making the CB dance for position to run the entire table isn't a part of it.
The aiming system doesn't work for him, it works for pro players and thousands of amateurs all around the world.
It would be nice for the scientist to have a basic understanding of pool (and there are many of those) and by the same token it would be nice for Stan to have an understanding of science and experimental design, which he appears not to have.
Stan got a Masters degree decades ago in another area and doesn't need a thing regarding science or experimental design any more than Efren, Busta, Mosconi, Fats, and every single great pool player who has ever been in tournaments or hustling for the last 100 years. All you're trying to do is feed your own ego and knock others down.

Puuuuleeeeze tell me what knowledge of science and experimental design these guys have compared to just knowing what balls will do and how to do it with a CUESTICK. What do you think their science knowledge is and was it used to set this all up?

You're too emotionally involved to think clearly on this one.
LMAO. Yet, you aren't. How about this exercise: YOU explain how to make one shot on the table using Center to Edge visuals
for the one I listed yesterday. OB on the spot. CB halfway between the spot and side edge of the table at the other end.
Give instructions on what to see visually and how to set up to do it. THINK CLEARLY NOW. NO SCIENCE REQUIRED!
Just CB to OB visuals with head and body positions that make it possible along with the where the tip of the cue is.
Can you do that?
If I asked you how to do it using ghost ball, contact points, or fractions, I'd be willing to bet you could with no problem. Also, no science required. They're JUST VISUALS. The way EVERYONE plays the game!
 
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So much hate and ill will over an aiming system...chill.
You joined here 3 months ago. Are you aware that this has been going on for the last 25 years almost daily?
In order to get your stripes, it'll take getting wounded a good number of times with time spent in the hospital.
Good luck.
 
It's too personal for them. Take aiming out of the equation. These guys would argue with each other, with just as much vitriol, over which brand of ketchup is the best.

There's no peace available. It's scorched earth or bust.


Well this Forum is getting like FakeBOOK, and Social Media. Rodney Dangerfield would feel at home as he was person who got no respect.


If you do not Aim in some way how do you make a ball? Hit it so hard the it bounce rail to rain until in stops, or by accident goes in to a pocket?
 
It's too personal for them. Take aiming out of the equation. These guys would argue with each other, with just as much vitriol, over which brand of ketchup is the best.
Depends if the disagreement was about the SCIENCE of how the ketchup was made and the ingredients, or the end result
of IT JUST TASTED GOOD. SOME JUST CAN'T GET TO THE POINT OF "IT WORKS FOR ME."

Believe it or not, Dan White and I do have something in common. I agree with him 100% regarding climate control.
(Shhhh, don't tell him I said that)
 
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