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Absolutely. I call it "My Dance" Part of my shot routine.
MajorMiscue
Democat
Most everyone I know learned the "ghost ball" system. But aiming is such a relative thing and is effected by so many variables, cb spin and throw, rail compression, etc., that the "best" instruction seems to me to come from hitting a thousand shots, then hit a thousand more, ad infinitum. Every other "aiming system" I've heard described as gimmicks, CTE, shooting at shadows and/or reflections, etc.. I'm sure some of it has some merit but none of it will replace hitting balls and then hitting more balls, IMHO.
Some of the advanced CTE users actually hit balls while applying CTE. The argument here is not about hitting balls, it's about some people using a method that makes balls for them and another group that don't understand how they do it. Whichever works is fine.
My observations involved a contact point. Stand behind the OB on a straight line to the pocket and wherever it falls is the contact point for the CB. Most go wrong by aiming the center of the CB at it and miss all the shots. It needs to be an equal and opposite spot on the far side of the CB.
You can ingrain a lot of bad habits by hitting thousands of balls the wrong way. Aiming systems aren't gimmicks...none of them. Hitting thousands of balls the RIGHT way should be the goal.
They all have a certain degree of merit. Some more than others and those some have to do with the person learning and stroking the cue to begin with and which one is the easiest to see and set up visually. Aiming is all VISUAL like aiming a handgun or rifle, especially one equipped with a high-power sniper scope.
But why hit a thousand balls the wrong way when it can all be done a lot sooner by taking some lessons from a valid pro instructor? Golfers do it, why are pool players so cheap and obstinate? (Maybe even stupid)
MajorMiscue
Democat
I've never been anywhere were pro instruction was available. Besides, I generally know why I miss a shot or don't make my intended position. Always was a dead shot with any weapon I picked up. I have thrown away closets full of trophies for archery and pistol competitions. The extent of my pool instruction was when an older kid at the YMCA told me if I hit the cb nearer the bottom I would stop chasing the ob into the pocket. Yreka!
And others just can't understand the difference between "it works for me" and "how?"
pj
chgo
Wow. I thought it was just professional courtesy but it turns out it is an actual gag order.
Yes, they can but we now know they can't go there because of the PBIA gag order. Back to my point: don't you even consider the idea that these guys know some things about physics that you don't understand? Maybe, just maybe, you are successful at CTE for reasons other than what you believe?
And others have spent over 20 years on the internet arguing about something they never bothered to learn and have no interest in learning. That’s pretty darn stupid and I don’t care who you are.
Why haven't you tried the jelly bean method? Are you admitting it works or is that just "pretty darn stupid" of you?
pj
chgo
No they can’t. That’s a well understood fact. I’m sure they know plenty about physics that I don’t know or even care to know.
Maybe I’m successful at CTE because I follow Stan’s instructions exactly. That’s the hard part for you to believe and it shouldn’t be hard to believe. There’s way too many having success with CTE for your beliefs to be true.
No I’m not stupid, but this post of yours kinda proves my point.
And he has no idea why it works for him. He's admitted that. Just ask him.
Bob J. won a national collegiate title. Dr. Dave, Mike Page, a guy name Jal, those come to mind. Again, nobody says you have to play pool to debunk what Stan says, but it is a nice feather in the cap for credibility.
You are making my point. You go to a pool player to learn pool but you go to a scientist to understand why or how it works.
Stan is the only one passing himself off as some kind of researcher, and making rookie mistakes along the way. Scientists consult other experts all the time. If he had a little humility he might have picked some brains early on.
I've done that in the past and you accused me of looking it up or something like that. Maybe it was cookie. Same difference.
lol - whoosh!
The point of my post is that CTE and the jelly bean method (and every other aiming method) "work" the same - no learning or trying needed to know that about either "system", if you understand how aiming works generally. That's apparently rare here in the Aiming forum.
pj
chgo
The problem is that the guys who say "it works for me" are the same ones saying "this is how it works and if you don't believe me you are an idiot."
MajorMiscue is probably here because he followed me here. He is anti science and believes in man made climate change. We're all still waiting on him to explain in another thread why he believes in it.
Well now I know there is a gag order against speaking out against any PBIA instructor methods so I'll take your answer with a grain of salt. I suspect you are being political here. You realize that you are saying the balls line themselves up to be pocketed if you look at them funny, right?
Close. It's the same people making balls and not understanding why.