Hows Your Power Stroke

cuetechasaurus

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I hope most of you realize that a power stroke is nothing without accuracy. Its also not a question of how hard you can hit the ball, because I see people who THINK they have power strokes, that really DO NOT. They think that because they can slam at the ball at break speed with follow and get the cueball to hook, that they have a great power stroke. Well news flash, if you can't make the ball, IT DOESNT COUNT. And a REAL power stroke is not defined by slamming the ball with spin, it's defined by HOW MUCH SPIN you can get with the LEAST amount of effort. Watch a B player draw a straight in length of the table shot, and then watch someone like Nevel or Strickland. A B player slams the ball, and a pro just hits it with a nice high pitched *clack* and the cueball comes zipping straight back. So how good is your power stroke?
 
Colin Colenso said:
I can maek the qeu ball get reel hi in teh air even my hand in over the wood!!!

You talk like you're 80 years old. In your picture I thought you were at the oldest 65, youngest 64.
 
cuetechasaurus said:
I hope most of you realize that a power stroke is nothing without accuracy. Its also not a question of how hard you can hit the ball, because I see people who THINK they have power strokes, that really DO NOT. They think that because they can slam at the ball at break speed with follow and get the cueball to hook, that they have a great power stroke. Well news flash, if you can't make the ball, IT DOESNT COUNT. And a REAL power stroke is not defined by slamming the ball with spin, it's defined by HOW MUCH SPIN you can get with the LEAST amount of effort. Watch a B player draw a straight in length of the table shot, and then watch someone like Nevel or Strickland. A B player slams the ball, and a pro just hits it with a nice high pitched *clack* and the cueball comes zipping straight back. So how good is your power stroke?


Da boy is makin' some VERY good points here....
 
cuetechasaurus said:
You talk like you're 80 years old. In your picture I thought you were at the oldest 65, youngest 64.

Did no one else get the joke?

Your question, good one as it is, is ironic considering the post below was one you made on a similar topic a couple of weeks ago:

cuetechasaurus said:
AN instuctor was at the pool hall today traning a nice lady and was teaching the break, and I can get the cueball the highest in air from thebreak, and my way to break is to use my birdge hand on TOP of the wood. The instuctror was watching me after he was done with her and he siad he could teach me. Well I didnt need no teahcing since my brake is powerful. He said that its not powerful and then I said well why does my white ball fly so high on the breake, and he said cause my bridge is on top of the wood, (I fogot what that part is on top of the cushion) and then he said something like my bridge makes it hop and jump higher but I said no because the white ball jumps when I hit it so hard, breakause my break is powerful. Well we argude about it and he just shook his head and said my breake is week and he left. I did some more brakes and yes its powerful, but why would he say that, an dhe is an instuctor.
Note: I thought it was quite humorous at the time...but I'm a big kid sometimes :p
 
Anyway, to return to the question asked in the original post....there was one at the end of the statement, I would say that I have always been confident of hitting pretty accurate when using power.

I guess I practiced a lot of ball banging. I just like to see what the limits on every shot are in regards to spin and speed.

It's hand to have these shots up your sleeve when a real power shot is required. Though that isn't often.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Did no one else get the joke?

Your question, good one as it is, is ironic considering the post below was one you made on a similar topic a couple of weeks ago:


Note: I thought it was quite humorous at the time...but I'm a big kid sometimes :p

I got it. yer tacin 2 mutch of a bakswing if it's that hi in the air!
 
Colin Colenso said:
Did no one else get the joke?


I didn't get the joke until right now because I never saw his previous post that you provided.

So...what we have in THAT one is a person who's misspelling or mistyping words that are also not setup in a correct structure grammatically. And then you have his post today which is not only grammatically correct, but articulate with NO typo's or misspelled words. Does it seem like someone might be doing that on purpose from time to time? Normally, people are quite consistent one way or another. Seems like another poster coming on as an alias for some reason or another which might not even surface until down the road. Looks like you'll be Shanghai'd again.
 
cuetechasaurus said:
I hope most of you realize that a power stroke is nothing without accuracy.


Saurus
You are, of course, absolutely correct. The power stroke will magnify any innacuracies in your stroke and setup. The stroke drills (from Mark Wilson) that I am using require the grading of each and every stroke in 7 areas:

1. Care with aim and setup
2. Full and complete practice swings
3. Slow and straight backswing (same on practice swings and actual stroke), with smooth transfer (no jerkiness) from backswing to actual stroke.
4. No body motion before, during, or after stroke
5. No elbow collapse
6. Perfectly straight tip follow through (and low because of the no elbow collapse).
7. Light, uniform grip pressure throughout stroke

Shoot 10 shots with extreme follow, 10 with center ball, and 10 with extreme draw:

#1 - Put the cue ball on the foot spot, object ball one diamond from the far corner pocket, one diamond away from the long rail. Shoot 10 times with power stroke (inaccuracies in the stroke will be magnified, and easier to find and correct with the power stroke), maximum top spin. After each shot, grade yourself on each of these 7 areas (A=needs attention, S=skillful). Have an extra row on your evaluation sheet for a P=perfect if the ball goes in.

#2 - Again with cue ball on foot spot, put object ball 2 diamonds from far corner, and 1 ball width from the long rail. Shoot with power stun (cue ball should come straight across table at least 1 1/2 table widths on a 9 footer). Shoot 10 times and grade yourself as above

#3 - Last shot is with cue ball on foot spot, object ball straight in and 2 diamonds from the far corner. Shoot 10 shots with power draw, as low as possible, drawing the cue ball back to the foot rail if you can. Grade as above. After these 30 shots have been taken and graded - TAKE A BREAK (you deserve it, you will be tired if you are concentrating properly) and do it again later in the day. I think you will see results quicker than trying to run racks of 9-ball.

I have a copy of the scoring sheet I use to grade each shot - I will search the forum to find it, and I will tack a link on to the bottom of this post. Since August I have done approximately 3000 "power shots" in this drill, and I am still improving my stroke. Good luck.

P.S. - Here's the thread, look at post #9 for a copy of the scoring sheet.

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=15875&highlight=power+stroke
 
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cuetechasaurus said:
I hope most of you realize that a power stroke is nothing without accuracy. Its also not a question of how hard you can hit the ball, because I see people who THINK they have power strokes, that really DO NOT. They think that because they can slam at the ball at break speed with follow and get the cueball to hook, that they have a great power stroke. Well news flash, if you can't make the ball, IT DOESNT COUNT. And a REAL power stroke is not defined by slamming the ball with spin, it's defined by HOW MUCH SPIN you can get with the LEAST amount of effort. Watch a B player draw a straight in length of the table shot, and then watch someone like Nevel or Strickland. A B player slams the ball, and a pro just hits it with a nice high pitched *clack* and the cueball comes zipping straight back. So how good is your power stroke?

Didn't understand were this one was going but the difference between B and A or even pro for that matter is simple follow through. Most players just refuse to follow through for some reason, power stroke or not. This is where accuracy is gained.
 
One power stroke to practice

This is just 1 power stroke to practice. Instead of
being on the long rail with a bad angle and not a good
way to get on the 9, try this shot with low right english..

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Leaves good position on the 7 and not a problem now
for getting on the 9.
 
drivermaker said:
I didn't get the joke until right now because I never saw his previous post that you provided.

So...what we have in THAT one is a person who's misspelling or mistyping words that are also not setup in a correct structure grammatically. And then you have his post today which is not only grammatically correct, but articulate with NO typo's or misspelled words. Does it seem like someone might be doing that on purpose from time to time? Normally, people are quite consistent one way or another. Seems like another poster coming on as an alias for some reason or another which might not even surface until down the road. Looks like you'll be Shanghai'd again.

I thought you knew everything that happened on this board. Maybe it was during your incarceration period and you were stuck in front of the TV watching Oprah re-runs all day.

Cuetecabcdef fessed up after his few games to begin. I was just suprised to see how many people thought he was a serious moron. His character development would make for a humorous instructional series. I'm sure we've all met guys like the one cuetecabcdef was pretending to be.

Guys passionate about being in the pool scene, play a lot of ball banging but can't run 3 balls, but think they're almost pro-level and never listen to anyone.

I'm drifting off topic...someone must have hypnotised be godammit! :p
 
JoeyInCali said:
Must be a genius.
I'd like to know ANY stroke that is good without accuracy.
A pushout?


A good stroke hits with a good follow thru will get the job done..The the other day i saw my stroke at it's best..Not hard jus clean draw shots .Shot a shot in the side pockets both ball lined up right in the side .clean power stroke drawed the ball up table with out hittin no rails for shape on the next ball ..I loved it. it looked like artwork ..
It's not hard jus a clean hit..
 
deadstroke32 said:
A good stroke hits with a good follow thru will get the job done..The the other day i saw my stroke at it's best..Not hard jus clean draw shots .Shot a shot in the side pockets both ball lined up right in the side .clean power stroke drawed the ball up table with out hittin no rails for shape on the next ball ..I loved it. it looked like artwork ..
It's not hard jus a clean hit..
A clean power draw shot into the ceter and the CB didn't hit a rail?
 
Colin Colenso said:
A clean power draw shot into the ceter and the CB didn't hit a rail?


Yes sir .It hard to bleave but it can be done ..I have a very light stroke..
All wrist.No elbow..
 
deadstroke32 said:
Yes sir .It hard to bleave but it can be done ..I have a very light stroke..
All wrist.No elbow..

Thank you this is what I've been saying. This is done with a smooth draw stroke. See below. Most players do not follow through.


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