"Hustling": Is It Sleazy Or Clever (Or Both)?

Is "Hustling" Sleazy, Clever, or Both?

  • I Think Hustling Is Sleazy.

    Votes: 129 39.9%
  • I Think Hustling Is Clever.

    Votes: 40 12.4%
  • I Think Hustling Is Both Sleazy & Clever.

    Votes: 154 47.7%

  • Total voters
    323

pt109

WO double hemlock
Gold Member
Silver Member
While you’re at it, Dean, stop playing poker also....^^^^^^^^^
Did you know that poker players actually try to misrepresent the value of their cards?

People are careless with words....that’s why many words ‘lose their currency’...
Hustle, originally, was NOT a synonym for cheat and dump...
...people that don’t understand the gambling life devalued the term.
 

deanoc

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Poker is a thing of the remote past
i never gave it up,I just didn't play every day,then pretty soon it was weeks,then months then years

i don't even miss it, i also gave up golf,it became easy when i couldn't hit my 5 iron 150 yards

my $275 and more yard drives reduced to close to 200 yards and so i quit

pool however lingered on past the others,my game improved as i got older
never very good but gambling was more about matching up

i just kept hanging on

i am very serious about what i said


i may play at home,or will if no one buys my tables
but if they sell,i will never pick up a cue again
 

hang-the-9

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Trying to cheat people is never "clever", but a lot of people make up a lot of things to make it seem that way. Best one "he tried to take advantage of my lies so he deserved it".
 

jackpot

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Well that's something to look forward to

pool however lingered on past the others,my game improved as i got older
never very good but gambling was more about matching up

i just kept hanging on

i am very serious about what i said


i may play at home,or will if no one buys my tables
but if they sell,i will never pick up a cue again

I just can't wait until you get away from that dastardly game that
brought you in contact with all of those ner-do-wells . I warned you
years ago that you would curse the day you first set foot in one of
those dins of thieves. I clearly remember so many years ago begging
you to partner up with me in UFO investigation. I saw how your face light up
when I showed you my laminated card as an official Investigator, but
even that wasn't enough. To make matters worse you drug me into
your sleazy scams. With the constant burden of worrying if the money
we won would cause us to lose our armature status, I let my UFO
investigators dues lapse. Now I had no choice but to go along . Now
here we are left with hundreds of stories and adventures to rembemer
tell, talk and laugh about that I wouldn't trade for anything. QUIT are
you nuts. KNOCK IT OFF. We're just starting round two.
jack
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Dan White

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Is outright cheating an acceptable part of hustling?

A few years ago a well known player from my area was playing an older gent. He was talking the guy up and causing distractions I think to get him off his game. The older gent went to the bathroom and when he came back the hustler convinced him that the game score was different than what it really was, to his favor of course.

Is that any different from the deception played by lowering your game in order to dupe someone?
 

pt109

WO double hemlock
Gold Member
Silver Member
Is outright cheating an acceptable part of hustling?

A few years ago a well known player from my area was playing an older gent. He was talking the guy up and causing distractions I think to get him off his game. The older gent went to the bathroom and when he came back the hustler convinced him that the game score was different than what it really was, to his favor of course.

Is that any different from the deception played by lowering your game in order to dupe someone?

A cheater is not necessarily a hustler....call him what he is...a cheater.
A dumper is not necessarily a hustler...call him what he is....a dumper.
 

Dan White

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
A cheater is not necessarily a hustler....call him what he is...a cheater.
A dumper is not necessarily a hustler...call him what he is....a dumper.

I guess I'm wondering whether you guys who think hustling is OK also think outright cheating like changing the score or "accidentally" moving a ball, etc. is OK. If getting the other guy's money is the objective, and deceiving that person (ie, hustling) is how you are going to accomplish that goal, then why not cheat any way you can if you can get away with it?

I'm playing devil's advocate here. I voted for "sleazy and clever."
 

Taxi

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Lemoning is fine. Sharking isn't.

I've seen very few first rate 9 ball players who could disguise their stroke convincingly enough to fool anyone who wasn't at least two speed levels below them. Of course one pocket is different, which is why that's a real hustler's favorite game.

But my favorite "hustler" type takes after Buddy Dennis, who'd go from bar to bar from Baltimore to Ohio with Little Gus Baroutas. First thing they'd say upon entering the joint would be to announce, "My friend and I like to play pool for money. We're pretty good players, but we're not hustlers. If anyone wants to try us for 10 dollars a game, we'll be glad to play."

It worked for them for a long, long time. Sometimes honesty is the best policy.
 
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