I didn't expect to wake up to this...

BasementDweller said:
All of this is assuming you can even take your child into your local pool playing establishment without their young mind being bombarded with all kinds of "wholesome" images and language.

Most of us aren't really offended by the coarsening of our culture anymore; it's more so we are annoyed by it. Most of the crap you hear coming out of the jukeboxes at many places isn't clever, witty, deep, or worthwhile on any level. Instead it’s worthless drivel with a good beat. If it had any socially redeeming quality attached to it I probably wouldn't mind having my children hear some of this stuff and then use it as a teachable moment. Unfortunately, there's nothing to be learned from it. Instead, it just becomes more noise that their young minds have to deal with.

So, you have two choices: You can be the old fuddy-duddy and ask the room attendant if they would mind turning off the offensive music at 2:00 in the afternoon, or you can just stay home.

I just stay home and we all wonder why the game is dying.
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I never said pool halls, I was talking about pool tournaments....Derby city...us open...turning stone classic. Where the professionals play.

You could take your kids to a new York Knicks basketball game and hear rap music thumping across the arena not just during warm ups but during actual game play. It's the sign off the times, so it will be in pool halls too. To think of bringing a kid to a pool hall and then expect everyone to act accordingly is unrealistic. I understand your point, but if you made the trip to a professional event, you would see a completely different atmosphere than what you are used to at the local pool hall.


Again, i took the discussion to children at professional billiards events of which I have no problem and will continue to go out and support with my children. The professionals, vendors, organizers are all great with kids and it lightens them up to see young minds interested in the sport.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
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The guy hands you kids 2 ice cream cones and says, "Her ya go, now get out of here, you ungrateful little buggers".
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That is mild compared to FOAD

So I summarise 3 limbs here:
1) OP complained about "fowl" language in the free stream and it is debatable whether he should since it is free stream
2) Inside Pool screwed up by telling OP to FOAD. No way is this excusable and uncool.
3) Some members say they have not been receiving Inside Pool subscriptions which they paid for.
2) is bad but 3) is even worse business practice that can amount to cheating/scam.
Now why are you Inside Pool subscribers not doing anything and not going after Inside Pool? It is obviously unacceptable to pay for a magazine and not receive it.
Azb should have separate section for folks to post such complaints/ bad practices/breaches by industry suppliers like magazines, promoters so that forummers are aware.
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Spartan, the one thing that I mentioned, and it did happen in a thread a few months ago here.

Someone complained of the supposed crappy audio and video quality on a Free Stream.

If you got FOADed on something like that, then you probably deserved it, cause that takes serious cajones to think like that, let alone make a thread about it.

I was just agreeing with what Buck Shot posted earlier.

Sure, my ice cream analogy may have not been the best in the world but my way of making a like comparison from free vs paying for something. When its ok to complain and not.

I didn't think it was a biggy but apparently it was lame. I typed it so I will own it.
PS - I didn't lose any sleep over it being called lame"O

The person that called it lame is like a Little Bonabo Monkey with a Boner when he gets something in his noggin. He won't let go of it.

OK, maybe thats not the best analogy either.
 
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Jaden said:
Isn't this the same response that they give to their subscribers that don't get their magazine???

Jaden
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Negative...at least this guy got f*ck off and die.
With the subscriptions you hear nothing. It's like talking into the abyss.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Spartan, the one thing that I mentioned, and it did happen in a thread a few months ago here.

Someone complained of the supposed crappy audio and video quality on a Free Stream.

If you got FOADed on something like that, then you probably deserved it, cause that takes serious cajones to think like that, let alone make a thread about it.

I was just agreeing with what Buck Shot posted earlier.

Sure, my ice cream analogy may have not been the best in the world but my way of making a like comparison from free vs paying for something. When its ok to complain and not.

I didn't think it was a biggy but apparently it was lame. I typed it so I will own it.
PS - I didn't lose any sleep over it being called lame"O

The person that called it lame is like a Little Bonabo Monkey with a Boner when he gets something in his noggin. He won't let go of it.

OK, maybe thats not the best analogy either.
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Couldn't agree more. If you are complaining because the audio is bad or a free stream is a bit laggy I could personally care less what is said to you ( still bad business practice but understandable). I also don't care about the occasional fk dropped here and there because I'm just as guilty of dropping them especially when I'm out with friends. I'm more careful around kids though and streams such as the OP is talking about I do watch with my nephew and would rather not hear racial slurs and fk this and that and have him associate that stuff with pool. To each their own on music choice but when it's streamed I just don't see the point in editting that in but like I said there is always the mute button.
 
The music selection by In Pool was inappropriate for the video, plain and simple..

But the bigger issue I have would be the reply to the OP.

FOAD is unbelievably unprofessional.. :scratchhead:
 
Exactly, and consider how many customers that you wouldn't have if you treated them as such if any of them had any issues with any of the equipment that you sell.

Just not a great business model. But considering how they treat the mag subscribers,
it shouldn't come as a huge surprise.

Who were the streamers BTW? I thought that I read the name Alvin in a post.

That in itself would be a bit surprising if it were him because I have enjoyed streams that he put on previously and thought they were pretty decent.

Maybe just a couple of yahoos that got put in for a few sets. Happens from time to time. Put a mike in front of someones face and they automatically become a comedian or a singer etc.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Exactly, and consider how many customers that you wouldn't have if you treated them as such if any of them had any issues with any of the equipment that you sell.

Just not a great business model. But considering how they treat the mag subscribers,
it shouldn't come as a huge surprise.

Who were the streamers BTW? I thought that I read the name Alvin in a post.

That in itself would be a bit surprising if it were him because I have enjoyed streams that he put on previously and thought they were pretty decent.

Maybe just a couple of yahoos that got put in for a few sets. Happens from time to time. Put a mike in front of someones face and they automatically become a comedian or a singer etc.
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Your correct BHR.

I personally try to go above and beyond with my customers, EVEN when I think they are incorrect/wrong/chronic complainer, etc...

There has been plenty of times where I would love to have 'told a customer off', but have refrained from doing it, simply as a good business practice..

(And dont get me wrong, im NOT of the belief that the customer is always right)
 
This is a response that I received with regards to this thread...

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First, I would like to apologize for any comments publicly made to any
of your members,fans,or guests. Inside Pool Magazine does not condone
this type of behavior from any of it's staff. It is unclear at this
time who was behind the comments. However, due to us now having
complete access to Inside Pool Magazine and it's subsidiaries we were
able to change all passwords and logins as of today, to prevent any
further misrepresentation on our behalf. We have taken the appropriate
steps to prevent this type of behavior in the future as well. We will
also be paying very close attention to all video editing practices
from here on out.

We are working diligently and professionally to try to resolve any of
the past issues regarding the magazine. Our top priority now is to
delivery a great magazine with the information the fans want and
deserve to get. Our customer service is top notch and we are working
diligently to supersede any and all expectations. We are laying a
solid foundation based on integrity, honesty, focus and loyalty to our
fans.
 
AzHousePro said:
Our top priority now is to
delivery a great magazine with the information the fans want and
deserve to get.
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You cry a bit and get your apology, congrats.

What I want to know is since when was IP's priority delivering a great magazine to their customers? Inside Pool stealing the money of countless subscribers in the past is a real crime; offending the delicate sensibilities of the OP on a free stream is not.
 
Reminds me of what a kid did in school. Work experience at a small local newspaper he managed to edit the paper and the entire supply of that days paper had an article that was meant to be supportive of the local church ended up with it calling god a cun....you can finish the rest.

Personally I find IPs response absolutely hilarious. Not professional in the slightest, but for all I know Gary, who works down the hall for Gary's Where There Is A Blame There Is A Claim Ltd, may have fraped the crap out of IP. Never leave your laptop unattended :-)
 
3andstop said:
The bigger problem here is that society is flushing itself down the shitter with concerns of political correctness rather than having the balls to outwardly reject this infestation of garbage without worrying about hurting some scumbags feelings.


It is now 2 generations deep which means all we can do is lower ourselves to the new norm. There's no longer a map to go back, and our youngsters don't even know this is crap, so pull your pants down around your ass and get used to it.
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That's it. You nailed it. I've been yelling from the rafters about this for a long time. Lowlife behavior has become accepted behavior and it's hurting pool as well as humanity.

Inside Pool's response was a cop out. How many staff members do they have to where they don't know who did it? 5000 or maybe 2 or 3? Give me a break.
 
FranCrimi said:
That's it. You nailed it. I've been yelling from the rafters about this for a long time. Lowlife behavior has become accepted behavior and it's hurting pool as well as humanity.

Inside Pool's response was a cop out. How many staff members do they have to where they don't know who did it? 5000 or maybe 2 or 3? Give me a break.
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I could be wrong but I think you missed his point entirely. He took exactly the opposite position.
 
Apparently IPM didn't miss any points tho.

Obviously this thread got back to them, which is a good thing, yes?

As to whether anything will be done differently in the future is up to them.

But, they did see how many members of AZ that were displeased over it.

Maybe the email that House Pro posted was just Smoke and Mirrors. Either way, they know that the next time that something of this nature takes place, we will know about it.

That should tell members right there, that yes, they have the power to make changes in the Pool Scene.

And some think that this is just a little Rinky Dink Pool Forum. I beg to differ after this thread.
 
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buddha162 said:
You cry a bit and get your apology, congrats.

What I want to know is since when was IP's priority delivering a great magazine to their customers? Inside Pool stealing the money of countless subscribers in the past is a real crime; offending the delicate sensibilities of the OP on a free stream is not.
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Facts are this was NOT a free stream... It was the work of Jerry T from New York City Grind that was knocked off had the soundtrack changed and stuck up on Inside pool's youtube channel... At least be right about the specifics

Chris
 
I use to have a huge problem getting my Magazines from them too. Quite frankly I was super mad about it. I am happy to announce though that they apparently have been bought out! Whole new set of people working there and they took care of my problem. They contacted me because they had received the most recent set of records through the sale of the business.
 
APAPoolGirl said:
they apparently have been bought out! Whole new set of people working there and they took care of my problem. They contacted me because they had received the most recent set of records through the sale of the business.
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The above statement makes more sense than any other post in this entire thread

Sounds like its very possible somebody still has a set of keys to the car, after its been sold...
 
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