I finally hooked up my dust collector. Dont laugh, lol.

snipershot

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Well, i bought a dust collector for my shop and i was gonna buy a bunch of that flexible hose for it, but that stuff was $20 for 10 feet. I ended up buying 100 feet of corrugated pipe for $25 instead. It took six rolls of electrical tape to join the pieces together, but hey, it works great! Lol. I used some stuff i found at lowes for the lathes. The grates are both for gutter downspouts, lol. Hey, it works, what can i say? Lol


Joe
 

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If your collecting dust with the unit I hope you don't have it parked in the corner by your machine?
In case - all the fine dust that get's through the bags get blown back at you and THAT is not the best solution for your lungs...

Edit: forgot to say that your system rely on moving air with the fan-not vaccume. In case-any obsticle in the tubes/pipes would reduce efficiancy - hence less air movement. On a vaccume system the vaccume would increase (put your hand in front of the tube-the motor works harder) and might overcome the thing stuck in the tube and continue to work (put a large "hairball" from turning in front and see how far it goes).
Now what do you think happens when you have bought the cheap corrugated tubes in stead of the smooth (inside) which is designed to work?
I guess your efficiancy goes down and you would have dust lying allong the tubes...
I was told this by a specialist shop selling these-but it sounds logical to me.

Take dust serious-there is many threads up here regarding the topic.

Nice machine:-)
K
 
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Well, i cant put it outside, because its snowing like crazy, lol. From what ive seen so far, it doesnt shoot any dust back in the shop. It catches it in the plastic bag thats sealed and the air gets filtered through the top bag. Its not perfect, but its all i got for now. Maybe i will build a little box on the back nof my shop to put it in. Either way, its a hundred times better than just trying use a shop vac to catch the dust.

Joe
 
snipershot said:
Well, i cant put it outside, because its snowing like crazy, lol. From what ive seen so far, it doesnt shoot any dust back in the shop. It catches it in the plastic bag thats sealed and the air gets filtered through the top bag. Its not perfect, but its all i got for now. Maybe i will build a little box on the back nof my shop to put it in. Either way, its a hundred times better than just trying use a shop vac to catch the dust.

Joe
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I think you should investigate this a little more. I have two shop vac's which has 3 motors-moves a LOT of air and works great. One has a HEPA filter - which I can bet you money on- is keeping the fine dust in the container. Google HEPA filter and judge which puts out the most fine (harmfull) dust, the filter or your cloth-bag?
My other shop vac has a cyclone implementation ( 100mm hose) in addition to the 3 engines - a integrated version of Joeys suggestion.
I feel safer using these and I'm planning on moving even these outside my work area.....
Be safe....
 
The guys are giving you good advice. It is tough to see the fine dust, so it is easy to think your setup is "fine."
Quick 'n' easy test. Leave your shop for 2 or 3 hours and when you come back leave the overhead lights off- use a flashlight and look and see if there's any fine dust suspended in the air. After that, turn on your lights and run your dust collector for a couple of minutes while you take a pass on a shaft. Kick your lights back off and check for fine suspended dust with the flashlight again. Think "dust in front of an old movie projector screen."
That'll give you a better idea of the "fine dust" we're talking about. That's the stuff that's really dangerous.
I commend you for starting a DC system. Keep at it.
 
ELBeau said:
The guys are giving you good advice. It is tough to see the fine dust, so it is easy to think your setup is "fine."
Quick 'n' easy test. Leave your shop for 2 or 3 hours and when you come back leave the overhead lights off- use a flashlight and look and see if there's any fine dust suspended in the air. After that, turn on your lights and run your dust collector for a couple of minutes while you take a pass on a shaft. Kick your lights back off and check for fine suspended dust with the flashlight again. Think "dust in front of an old movie projector screen."
That'll give you a better idea of the "fine dust" we're talking about. That's the stuff that's really dangerous.
I commend you for starting a DC system. Keep at it.
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Ill give that a try man. Thanks for the info. Im sure i need to improve my setup, but its a start. Before i was just holding the hose from a shop vac next to to cue or whatever i was working on, so it is a pretty big improvement over that, lol.

Joe
 
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Dust collection who needs it lol

its a good start man, batter than what i have if im tapering in my little room i shut the door and hang out in the rest of the shop lol

or i wear my mast, my only dust collector is on my Spray booth.

Good job Joe.
 
Trent said:
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Dust collection who needs it lol

its a good start man, batter than what i have if im tapering in my little room i shut the door and hang out in the rest of the shop lol

or i wear my mast, my only dust collector is on my Spray booth.

Good job Joe.
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Thanks man! It took some hilljack engineering, but it got done, lol.

Joe
 
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snipershot said:
Well, i cant put it outside, because its snowing like crazy, lol. From what ive seen so far, it doesnt shoot any dust back in the shop. It catches it in the plastic bag thats sealed and the air gets filtered through the top bag. Its not perfect, but its all i got for now. Maybe i will build a little box on the back nof my shop to put it in. Either way, its a hundred times better than just trying use a shop vac to catch the dust.

Joe
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Your dust collector filters dust bigger than a certain size, 1 micron, 5 microns, etc. Everything smaller than that is being broadcast through the filter back into the shop at whatever cfm your unit is rated.

I built a 4'X4' box 6 feet high out of high 'R' insulation board, and vented the exhaust outside the shop through furnace filters. I taped the seams of the board and when necessary I open one side and change the bag and clean the filter. It was cheap. easy, impervious and insulated. You can cut openings with a knife.
 
That ribbed pipe is only better than ribbed pipe with drain holes. Seriously that stuff is by far the worst for airflow than anything else available.

I realize you saved some money, but think long term. If you don't have the money now I understand, but try and upgrade to S and D pipe in the future. It's about 2 bucks a foot, plus y's, but over the years it will be worth it.

Yes there is a bit of static in a PVC system, but according to the research I have done the likelihood of an explosion in a small shop is nil.

That said...if it really works well enough for you then that is all that matters. I will just say that changing to smooth wall with improve your efficiency by 50 percent or more....
 
Trent said:
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Dust collection who needs it lol

its a good start man, batter than what i have if im tapering in my little room i shut the door and hang out in the rest of the shop lol

or i wear my mast, my only dust collector is on my Spray booth.

Good job Joe.
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That was the attitude(and still is) of my employers when I started on boats. LP, high solids, mek, acetone, the nasty antifouling paint.......who needed a good mask? Certainly not the 40 dollar a day grunt who is making your boat nice.

In fact, we'll scoff at the use of even the super cheap particle masks that we have. Need a new one? What is wrong with that one? Oh, it is just a bit of blood, it will help filter shit out.......

I'm still pissed off over how I get treated.....can you tell???
 
My advice is get rid of the bag and pipe the dust out the wall or move the unit outside. That fine dust that makes it though the bag is the absolute worse dust to breath.
 
cueman said:
My advice is get rid of the bag and pipe the dust out the wall or move the unit outside. That fine dust that makes it though the bag is the absolute worse dust to breath.
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He said it was snowing. Chris and the other guys who say this are 100% correct though. Try and do that as soon as you can.
 
pescadoman said:
He said it was snowing. Chris and the other guys who say this are 100% correct though. Try and do that as soon as you can.
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The pipe through the wall will work rain, sleet, snow or sunshine and that is what I did. Just put a dryer vent through the wall. I don't always read whole threads, but often just try to answer the original question.
 
Hey but you know what. The gutter guard looks like a decent idea for a trough.

Someone posted pics some time ago. He build a small ledge with a roof over it and put the entire dust collector on the outside.
It was enclosed but it really wouldn't take much material to build that small attached enclosure.
 
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cueman said:
The pipe through the wall will work rain, sleet, snow or sunshine and that is what I did. Just put a dryer vent through the wall. I don't always read whole threads, but often just try to answer the original question.
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By piping it through the wall, and getting rid of the bag, what do you mean? The plastic bag that all the chips and dust goes in, or the white fabric filter bag?

Joe
 
josie said:
How good do these help with the fine stuff?

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5489&filter=jet dust collector

I am in the process of setting up my new shop and am thinking of one of these along with a standard dust collector>

Thanks,

Eric
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No dust collection is perfect, and you will always be making cuts and doing things creating dust for which you don't have a collection set up. A good air filter like you linked definitely improves the air quality in the shop.

Kelly
 
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