I have a problem with my cocobolo sneaky

LosOsosCues

LosOsosCues

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I just put the finishing touches on a cue I made. It is a cocobolo sneaky pete with birdseye forearm. When I put a shaft on it to see how the hit was it had a ping like sound. Now this cue I am not going to sell. I made it for myself. My question is why is it making this sound. I have only made a few cues thus far and this is the first cocobolo sneaky I have made. My other cues sound solid nothing like the cocobolo. It has a 3/8-11 brass joint pin no weight bolt. Did I f up on the joint pin install to get this noise. Any and all help would be great.

Thanks
 
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LosOsosCues said:
I just put the finishing touches on a cue I made. It is a cocobolo sneaky pete with birdseye forearm. When I put a shaft on it to see how the hit was it had a ping like sound. Now this cue I am not going to sell. I made it for myself. My question is why is it making this sound. I have only made a few cues thus far and this is the first cocobolo sneaky I have made. My other cues sound solid nothing like the cocobolo. It has a 3/8-11 brass joint pin no weight bolt. Did I f up on the joint pin install to get this noise. Any and all help would be great.

Thanks
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The surfaces on the butt & shaft are not perfectly flush. Reface the 2 surfaces, taking the least amount you can. When you screw it together, you may even see light, between the surfaces...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
The surfaces on the butt & shaft are not perfectly flush. Reface the 2 surfaces, taking the least amount you can. When you screw it together, you may even see light, between the surfaces...JER
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I agree with Jerry but he could have explained it a little better.

If you can see light between the two surfaces when the shaft is joined to the butt then you will need to reface the butt and shaft joints.

Good cuemaking,
 
Thanks to all

I check the joints and faced them off and it still makes the sound. They look to be perfect. My first thought was it had to be the joint pin somehow. I think it might be what joey said. So just wanted to say thanks and Ill let you know if that fixed it.
It does not make the sound at all times. Mostly when you put english on the ball. If you use center ball the hit is solid with no noise. Im, not sure I know what you mean by a tight ping
Thanks to all for the help and the quick respones
 
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LosOsosCues said:
I check the joints and faced them off and it still makes the sound. They look to be perfect. My first thought was it had to be the joint pin somehow. I think it might be what joey said. So just wanted to say thanks and Ill let you know if that fixed it.
It does not make the sound at all times. Mostly when you put english on the ball. If you use center ball the hit is solid with no noise. Im, not sure I know what you mean by a tight ping
Thanks to all for the help and the quick respones
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Replace the tip?
Kelly
 
Just some ideas of things to look for, and some have been mentioned already but things to check, tip, ferrule, look for light and/or bad faces in the joint area, also might add that sometimes shaft inserts can work loose, but not so much that It's easy to tell, The joint may even tighten up very well in that situation, but then during play or after breaking with the cue, It may pull out a hair causing the face not to seat properly. Most of those things I relate having more of a tap or clicking sound, but I have heard a ping from one when the insert problem was present, so I guess any could have the same sound, though usually they don't when I run accross these issues. Normally the clicking sound is most evident to Me.
Oh another one- If piloted make sure the pilot is not bottoming out to soon, before the faces can close completely.

Greg
 
If you Have a spare shaft change it and try it
1. noise in the shaft or butt after swapping
2. in the shaft tip and or ferulle
3. Joint pin
4. twist the butt and check to see if the points are popping out i had fullsplice cue do this before one prong came loose.

best of luck
 
My troublesome sneaky

It is the same with all the shafts that I have with the 3/8-11 pin. They are all wood theads except one with phenolic insert. I tested all the shafts on my other cues that have the same joint pin and they sound solid. There is absalutly no light when you tighten the two together. Ferrules all are ok. No cracks. Tips are fine some might need to be changed. I looked glue failure but it is not showing up right now if that is the problem.
The shaft I am using on it right now is a predator z with ivory ferrule moori medium tip with the phenolic insert. I also use other shafts with the wood threads no insert and they sound the same if not a little worse. Just tring to give as much info as possible.
Thanks again
 
Well based on the extra info, Check under the joint really well for cracks in the BE. If there was'nt enough glue relief present or the pin was screwed in too quickly while glueing, it's possible pressure could have built up. I had a blowout one time, and I would'nt have even know at first had I not seen the glue leak through. Joey may be on to something also. Weight bolt would be and obvious one too, and coco is an oily wood, so who knows possible a adhesion issue could be present like the other poster mentioned. Wish I had a sure answer, just hard to tell without the cue in hand. Good Luck, hope You figure out what it is.
 
LosOsosCues said:
It is the same with all the shafts that I have with the 3/8-11 pin. They are all wood theads except one with phenolic insert. I tested all the shafts on my other cues that have the same joint pin and they sound solid. There is absalutly no light when you tighten the two together. Ferrules all are ok. No cracks. Tips are fine some might need to be changed. I looked glue failure but it is not showing up right now if that is the problem.
The shaft I am using on it right now is a predator z with ivory ferrule moori medium tip with the phenolic insert. I also use other shafts with the wood threads no insert and they sound the same if not a little worse. Just tring to give as much info as possible.
Thanks again
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So if I'm reading you right......you have definately narrowed it down to the butt being responsible for the "ping" noise. Correct?

If this is the case.........back track every step of everything you did when assembling everything and give us a detailed description of the work involved.
So this "ping".........is it a ping like pang? a ping like a peng? a ping like a pong? or more of a buzz than a ping?

Inquiring minds would like to know....................
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
So this "ping".........is it a ping like pang? a ping like a peng? a ping like a pong?
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Which one of them is best mainland China female pool player?
 
JerrysCues said:
Does The Cue Have A Wt. Bolt? If It Does Tighten It .
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LosOsosCues said:
I It has a 3/8-11 brass joint pin NO weight bolt. Thanks
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So this "ping".........is it a ping like pang? a ping like a peng? a ping like a pong?

Which one of them is best mainland China female pool player?

That would be Pung Pao!
 
If I were betting person, I'd say something is loose somewhere.
Could be glue failure on the blank itself before you even started your work.
What and where did the blank come from? Is it a fullsplice style?
Put an old delrin protector on it and give it a couple short taps off the concrete floor see if you get any noises you don't like.
If you use a rubber bump w/a screw to hold it tight...double check it.

Good luck..........
 
My 1st hunch is prolly at the joint area... there must be some air gaps there...

2nd is try wrapping the point area with masking tape real tight... see if it dampens the sound a bit... if it does there might be some internal problems that need some major operation...
 
pong sound from weight bolt

i sold an unweighted cue to one of the guys on my league team. he loved the looks but decided he wanted more weight. i normally do not use weight bolts because i think it makes the butt too heavy, and messes the balance of the cue. i installed a weight bolt and the cue made a pong sound. i tryed everything i could think of , different bolts, i redrilled and used a larger bolt,etc, etc. i finally filled the hole with epoxy and screwed the bolt in, still made the pong. i gave up and made firewood.
 
My sneaky pete

I just wanted to say thanks to all who have responed. I have been very busy with work and have not had a chance to mess with it. I never thought that it could be the blank untill it was sugested here. Since it is a full splice I really dont have many options. There is no weight bolt or any thing metal on the cue but the joint pin. The shafts that I have been using are all from other cues. I am going to finsh a shaft and custom if it to the cue. Once that is done I am going to see if it still makes the same sound. If the hit stays the same I am going to take out the current joint pin and redue the taping procedure. I will post again when I have tried these. I also will post pictures if I can ever figure it out. im 0 for 10 in picture posting
Thanks so much again
Dustin Cookson
 
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