I heard John Schmidt ran a 407 last week, then 434 just today. Any confirmation?

You know, after thinking about it some more, I think John should have found a Brunswick to play on with 5 inch pockets and new cloth. If he beats Mosconi's record, there will be a long line of people that will proclaim that he only ran that many because it was on a Rebco.

I wouldn't care if it was on a table with 6 inch pockets.

The concentration required to run those big numbers is something I cannot comprehend.

The pool skill is great within that man.
 
If he beats Mosconi's record, there will be a long line of people that will proclaim that he only ran that many because it was on a Rebco. (I have never heard of a Rebco.............

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C'mon, man!

Don't you watch late night TV infomercials?

They make rotisserie ovens and spray on hair. :)

With those tables, I think you can just "set it and forget it" with your cue and it will run several hundred balls by itself.
 
C'mon, man!



Don't you watch late night TV infomercials?



They make rotisserie ovens and spray on hair. :)



With those tables, I think you can just "set it and forget it" with your cue and it will run several hundred balls by itself.

That's not the point. Of course it's a great feat regardless of the table. But if you had a choice to choose the table, you're going to pick a Rebco?




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You know, after thinking about it some more, I think John should have found a Brunswick to play on with 5 inch pockets and new cloth. If he beats Mosconi's record, there will be a long line of people that will proclaim that he only ran that many because it was on a Rebco. (I have never heard of a Rebco table and it's only a guess, but I bet that the shelves are not very deep? ) If Mosconi ran 526 on a Brunswick, that's the brand table I would attempt the runs on, since nobody would think to question the run -- at least based on the brand of table.




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Yeah, he would become the mainstream media's Trump, and the bashing would never end!
 
for it to be official it really needs to be done during a time and place the public can be there. and on an independent table not set up for the purpose of running the balls.

yeah "the public" is queueing up to watch the famous john schmidt play the very popular game of 14.1 continuous..

a video of the feat is as good a witness we can get. good on john for trying to break the record, and videotaping it. i hope he succeeds
 
yeah "the public" is queueing up to watch the famous john schmidt play the very popular game of 14.1 continuous..

a video of the feat is as good a witness we can get. good on john for trying to break the record, and videotaping it. i hope he succeeds
I'm sure those who complain about the record not being set in exactly the same conditions would gladly fund such an enterprise.... not.
 
The table he is playing on is a Rebco, that is what the room has in Monterey. The pockets, I don't know the exact size but they are pretty generous, non the less, those are impressive runs, he is a solid player! His wife has been recording the attempts, not sure if they are being posted anywhere or not, if I see him in there this week I'll ask.
 
Very very impressive.
The consistency , skill sets, focus and determination to run 400's consistently is insane.

Out of curiousity , has anyone every thought of inviting Ronnie and couple snooker greats like , John higgins and Mark selby to attempt breaking Willie's record ?

I feel that snooker players does has some advantage over the usual 8/9/10 ball rotation pool players in terms of shot selection, shot making accuracy and breaking the pack while leaving a shot to continue the run
Heres a couple of em , Stuart Pettman , ex professional snooker player whos runs a pool bar in Bangkok , never played a game of straight pool in his life , took part in DCC couple of years back , picked up a cue and ran a 150 in his 1st attempt
Darren appleton can back that up as he comment in an interview.
Spoke to Stuart personally and his reply was its similar to snooker and he admits having an advantage in breaking open the pack n leaving a shot.
Ronnie , never played straight pool , played the black widow and ran about 70 after she miss the game winning shot.
Snooker players seems to run a hundo at ease.
Therefore , i think if Ronnie were to commit to straight pool for 3 months , he could be the closest to break it.
But again, there gotta be financial terms in it for him to attempt it but i doubt anyone wld take on that sponsorship.
Just my 2 cents.
 
Very very impressive.
The consistency , skill sets, focus and determination to run 400's consistently is insane.

Out of curiousity , has anyone every thought of inviting Ronnie and couple snooker greats like , John higgins and Mark selby to attempt breaking Willie's record ?

I feel that snooker players does has some advantage over the usual 8/9/10 ball rotation pool players in terms of shot selection, shot making accuracy and breaking the pack while leaving a shot to continue the run
Heres a couple of em , Stuart Pettman , ex professional snooker player whos runs a pool bar in Bangkok , never played a game of straight pool in his life , took part in DCC couple of years back , picked up a cue and ran a 150 in his 1st attempt
Darren appleton can back that up as he comment in an interview.
Spoke to Stuart personally and his reply was its similar to snooker and he admits having an advantage in breaking open the pack n leaving a shot.
Ronnie , never played straight pool , played the black widow and ran about 70 after she miss the game winning shot.
Snooker players seems to run a hundo at ease.
Therefore , i think if Ronnie were to commit to straight pool for 3 months , he could be the closest to break it.
But again, there gotta be financial terms in it for him to attempt it but i doubt anyone wld take on that sponsorship.
Just my 2 cents.

My guess they would need a different cue than a snooker cue to perform well. A high churning cue ball is often needed to dig thru clusters.
 
I think Ronnie O'Sullivan or any top snooker player would need more like 3 years or better yet 10, playing the game of pool to have a slight chance at the record

Stuart had been playing pool for quite a few years when he made that ran.

I think 200 would be hard enough, nevermind 500+


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I think Ronnie O'Sullivan or any top snooker player would need more like 3 years or better yet 10, playing the game of pool to have a slight chance at the record

Stuart had been playing pool for quite a few years when he made that ran.

I think 200 would be hard enough, nevermind 500+


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Stuart isn't Ronnie though.

Stuart played 19 seasons as a snooker professional. In 19 years, he was never ranked higher than 35th. In 19 years, he played 174 tournaments, and didn't win a single one. In fact, he never even made it to the finals of any of those 174 tournaments.

Stuart isn't Ronnie.
 
Very very impressive.
The consistency , skill sets, focus and determination to run 400's consistently is insane.

Out of curiousity , has anyone every thought of inviting Ronnie and couple snooker greats like , John higgins and Mark selby to attempt breaking Willie's record ?

I feel that snooker players does has some advantage over the usual 8/9/10 ball rotation pool players in terms of shot selection, shot making accuracy and breaking the pack while leaving a shot to continue the run
Heres a couple of em , Stuart Pettman , ex professional snooker player whos runs a pool bar in Bangkok , never played a game of straight pool in his life , took part in DCC couple of years back , picked up a cue and ran a 150 in his 1st attempt
Darren appleton can back that up as he comment in an interview.
Spoke to Stuart personally and his reply was its similar to snooker and he admits having an advantage in breaking open the pack n leaving a shot.
Ronnie , never played straight pool , played the black widow and ran about 70 after she miss the game winning shot.
Snooker players seems to run a hundo at ease.
Therefore , i think if Ronnie were to commit to straight pool for 3 months , he could be the closest to break it.
But again, there gotta be financial terms in it for him to attempt it but i doubt anyone wld take on that sponsorship.
Just my 2 cents.
This is based on pure memory and could easily be wrong but wasn't Pettman's run at Derby City on a 10 foot Diamond? The Bigfoot Challenge, right?
 
Stuart is a much better pool player today than Ronnie O'Sullivan I assure you this


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The "ifs" don't count.
Like John Schmidt said Reyes may had been the best or within the best 14.1 if he woulda wanted to. Why? Simple: there isn't anything John Schdmith does at the same level as Reyes did in a pool table: Speed control, Banking, safing, pocketing, mental game

But today John Schdmit is the better 14.1 player

I agree with John

We will never know if Reyes coulda been the greatest 14.1 player, but much likely than Ronnie O'Sullivan cuz Reyes at least is a pool player, Ronnie has never been


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Stuart is a much better pool player today than Ronnie O'Sullivan I assure you this


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Perhaps, but Ronnie and many others are much better snooker players than Stuart ever was.

So why would it take them as long or longer than Stuart to become top notch 14.1 players?
 
we are not talking snooker here

but talk of how good someone would be just because they play amazing in a completely different discipline doesnt make sense

10 years advantage playing pool that Stuart has over ronnie are huge
Even if Ronnie is a much better cueist

Blomdhal loves pool. has a pool table in his house and plays very strong
But unless he plays pool exclusively for 10 years he wont be more than short stop speed.
And he will never be anyhwere near as good at pool as he is in 3-Cushion


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I think guys like reyes, Orcullo, and some taiwanese would smash that 526 record in their prime and if the incentive and or reward was big enough.

If John can get this close, better players than John would certainly get there

There is no secret to pool:

A top Pro with a better cueball and shotmaking and understanding of the game (break shots , right angles) etc would allow this super players of today ran more than 526 for sure
In my opinion.

There is nothing that tells me Mosconi or Caras or Eufemia or Nagy or any of these greats could play better than the top pros of today.

I have seen videos of all these greats, even Mosconi, and just going by their mental games I could tell the top guys today are definitely stronger mentally (if you add that they shoot better and better technique) and there you have it

There has never been a tougher time to win a World Championship or a US Open. Today's big events are really hard to win

More players and higher level overall.

Dennis Orcullo can most likely be the man today that I would bet he could do it if he tried.
Simply because he has a few extra weapons than all the rest:
the heart and the shotmaking


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This is based on pure memory and could easily be wrong but wasn't Pettman's run at Derby City on a 10 foot Diamond? The Bigfoot Challenge, right?

Yes, it was on a 10-footer, but it was in the qualifying stage (high-run attempts) of the 2013 DCC 14.1 Challenge. The Bigfoot Challenge is 10-Ball.

Pettman was the only player to run 100 or more that year, and he did it twice -- 100 and 117.

My understanding at the time was that Pettman was new to 14.1 but not to pool.
 
I think Ronnie O'Sullivan or any top snooker player would need more like 3 years or better yet 10, playing the game of pool to have a slight chance at the record .......Snip

I am sure Ronnie would get a chuckle out of that. When asked to compare pool to snooker he said it was like comparing putt putt golf to the Masters at Augusta.

In the late '80s I was watching Efren in the practice room at the Sands tournament in Reno. Another player was barking at him to play straight pool. Efren broke and ran two racks in rotation and then looked at the guy and asked, "are you sure you want to play straight pool?":grin:
 
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