I think it's time to change our ways.......

jimmy-leggs said:
I think it's absolutely wrong that WE on this forum make such comments that drive our pro's away from this forum.I know what your thinking...I have not said good things about Earl in the past,but I'm willing to change that attitude if everyone else does.
As amateur players we admire these people from afar and I think it's time to show alittle respect.I'm sure They all have their reasons for their actions and we should respect that.We should be greatfull they come on here and enlighten us with their input.So lets keep them on here.

I've seen the same old thing over and over again.

Pro player has his butt kissed by almost everybody, gets treated with massive respect, BUT is driven away from one single heckler, who relishes the opportunity to get under the skin of a name player. People can be very creative and nasty when it comes to being an Internet thug, and some have a lot of practice at it. It always seems to be the same pimple faced, greasy fingered kid typing into his computer in his parents basement doing the job.
 
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Take a lesson from Bambi

I don't see the need to bash anyone at all. Why limit bash our free posts to just the pros.

If everyone treated people the way they would like to be treated it'd be all rosey.

except for that b@stard that called a foul on me the other night at a tournament when I picked up the CB after I had played a great safety and he fouled trying to hit his ball. I know it's a rule that you have to call foul first but what a Pr!cK. nit nit nit nit nit

Ok I got that off my chest. it's all good:D
 
jimmy-leggs said:
bad idea,re-thought.delete thread please.

Wait a minute here, I took the time to respond to your thread, only to have you back out on me?

Where do I go from here?

Please reconsider, and at least think things out before you decide to start another thread, before this happens again.:confused:
 
Everybody gets bashed on here (including me) from time to time. If you're too thin skinned, then the "net" is not for you.

I have never done a pro tournament where somebody didn't criticize me or offer suggestions on how to make it better. What I learned is to consider the criticism or the suggestion and see if it's justified or has validity. If it is, then I take it to heart and look for a solution. If it's not, then it is like water off a duck's back. And this duck has let a lot of water run down his back (on here also). :)
 
Hey, maybe only the strong survive?? :D Maybe some of the pros that do post get what they want out of it by finding a sponsor or getting info then lose interest. I don't think I know of any pool player in the world that has not gotten some form of criticism about something. Seems like it should be easier to take it in a forum rather than in person (unless you are the violent, confrontational type). I think the people that have left should realize that it's actually a pretty cool group here and shouldn't look at it as being a pro or getting a chance to get a little ass-kissing. People should look at it as a chance to talk about what they love to do with other people that enjoy the same thing.

Just my opinion.
Sarah
 
sarahrousey said:
Hey, maybe only the strong survive?? :D Maybe some of the pros that do post get what they want out of it by finding a sponsor or getting info then lose interest. I don't think I know of any pool player in the world that has not gotten some form of criticism about something. Seems like it should be easier to take it in a forum rather than in person (unless you are the violent, confrontational type). I think the people that have left should realize that it's actually a pretty cool group here and shouldn't look at it as being a pro or getting a chance to get a little ass-kissing. People should look at it as a chance to talk about what they love to do with other people that enjoy the same thing.

Just my opinion.
Sarah

"People should look at it as a chance to talk about what they love to do with other people that enjoy the same thing."

That about says it all. I consider myself a pool student and I'm glad there are knowledgeable folks that are willing to come here to share what they know. This forum has made pool much more fun for me than it would have been without it. I remember well just a few years ago when this sort of thing was truly unheard of and not even a germ of a thought in the wildest of imaginations.

The internet is wonderful and AZ is at the top of the pool world on the net. :) (Mike.... we need a better selection of smilies)
 
Good post Sarah. I just wanted to point out one other thing. In case you didn't already know, there are many people posting regularly on here who play pretty sporty pool. Maybe better than some "pro" players. Just because you don't recognize the name, doesn't mean they can't play.

I've come to find out about some former pros and lifetime "hustlers" posting on here incognito. There are lots of pro players who wouldn't want to tangle with these guys. If you put together an All Star team of regular AZ posters, it would be an impressive line up. I wouldn't want to try to run that gauntlet.
 
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jay helfert said:
Everybody gets bashed on here (including me) from time to time. If you're too thin skinned, then the "net" is not for you.

You play ball like a GIRL!!!
 
jay helfert said:
Good post Sarah. I just wanted to point out one other thing. In case you didn't already know, there are many people posting regularly on here who play pretty sporty pool. Maybe better than some "pro" players. Just because you don't recognize the name, doesn't mean they can't play.

I've come to find out about some former pros and lifetime "hustlers" posting on here incognito. There are lots of pro players who wouldn't want to tangle with these guys. If you put together an All Star team of regular AZ posters, it would be an impressive line up. I wouldn't want to try to run that gauntlet.

Nobody would mistake me for one of the people you mention.
 
Another thing

is that the Pros can get a barometer feel for how the fans are receiving them, and that, in itself, may alter their behavior some. It puts the public eye directly on them, and they are forced to see themselves as others are seeing them. In some respects, it is good, because it could help elevate our sport in professionalism, and help it be viewed more favorably by the general public.

It generably helps Pros be more 'responsible' in a general sense. Take the IPT, and the rules they established, dress code, etc.. Everyone still had fun and everything, but the events came off more professional than other events did.

And Sarah, anytime you need a little ass-kissing, just let me know ... okay?:cool:
 
jay helfert said:
Everybody gets bashed on here (including me) from time to time. If you're too thin skinned, then the "net" is not for you.

I have never done a pro tournament where somebody didn't criticize me or offer suggestions on how to make it better. What I learned is to consider the criticism or the suggestion and see if it's justified or has validity. If it is, then I take it to heart and look for a solution. If it's not, then it is like water off a duck's back. And this duck has let a lot of water run down his back (on here also). :)

Exactly. I do miss some of the folks that have left, though, and also am amazed at some that have stayed!
:p
 
sarahrousey said:
Hey, maybe only the strong survive?? :D Maybe some of the pros that do post get what they want out of it by finding a sponsor or getting info then lose interest. I don't think I know of any pool player in the world that has not gotten some form of criticism about something. Seems like it should be easier to take it in a forum rather than in person (unless you are the violent, confrontational type). I think the people that have left should realize that it's actually a pretty cool group here and shouldn't look at it as being a pro or getting a chance to get a little ass-kissing. People should look at it as a chance to talk about what they love to do with other people that enjoy the same thing.

Just my opinion.
Sarah

You're OK, Sarah! A lot of pros could improve their lot by adhering to your perspective.

JoeyA

P.S. I've got a five dollar bill with MY name on it, if you are woman enough to beat me out of it. :D :p :D
 
JoeyA said:
You're OK, Sarah! A lot of pros could improve their lot by adhering to your perspective.

JoeyA

P.S. I've got a five dollar bill with MY name on it, if you are woman enough to beat me out of it. :D :p :D

I forgot to mention how much I have learned by coming here. I have said before that just because I have the title of "pro" doesn't mean that I play better than anyone. It just means that I spent way too much money to not make much back by becoming a pro. Jay, you are right, there are alot of good players that post here that play as good or much better than some pros. I think everyone should have an open mind and realize that a little more. Just because someone has a recognizable name doesn't mean that they know everything! (I know this because the lack of knowledge that I have)

Joey...I think my five has been hanging out in your pocket a little too long. I will rescue it one of these days.

Sarah
 
sarahrousey said:
I forgot to mention how much I have learned by coming here. I have said before that just because I have the title of "pro" doesn't mean that I play better than anyone. It just means that I spent way too much money to not make much back by becoming a pro. Jay, you are right, there are alot of good players that post here that play as good or much better than some pros. I think everyone should have an open mind and realize that a little more. Just because someone has a recognizable name doesn't mean that they know everything! (I know this because the lack of knowledge that I have)

Joey...I think my five has been hanging out in your pocket a little too long. I will rescue it one of these days.

Sarah

Well, I for one have seen you play quite a few times around the Atlanta area Sarah and I have the utmost respect for you as a person and a player. Dont sell yourself short on your skills.....you are a great player. JMO.

Southpaw
 
Thanks Southpaw, hope to see you down there again soon. Probably in October. Hope you are playing well.

Sarah
 
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