I did not say all shafts, I said specially the 11.8mm revo and cynergy. I can use those two interchangeably.
For me though, the cynergy feels much better.
I want the special Filler 12.4 Revo
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For me though, the cynergy feels much better.
These two are vastly different. There's even comparison videos out on youtube showing this. But beware the original 11.8 Revos are crap and are high deflection. The newer one's are hyper low. Not sure when they changed the design but I've tried two 11.8s side by side and there are 2 designs
You talk like a world champion so i gotta ask: what is your FargoRating??? Based on the shaft lingo you gotta be at least a 720+. Full disclosure: i don't have one. Robbed a 520, got beat by a 550 in case you're wondering. Pre-cancer i was probably around 600ish.
Just a lil sidebar: i know about five guys that played at DCC this year. All are 700+ talent. All play solid maple shafts. All have tried low-def. at some point but chose to stick with hi-squirt lumber. Worrying about the tiny differences in low-def. shafts is not going to improve your play. Just another mental crutch.
Since Filler is out of the 1pocket, I no longer have interest in this thread.
Idk who needs to hear this but mentioning "ultra low deflection" and "hyper low deflection" is very cringe.
Idk who needs to hear this but mentioning "ultra low deflection" and "hyper low deflection" is very cringe.
I would not recommend someone 700+ switch from maple to low deflection if they are already that good. But if they really committed to switching I think there is a good chance they would notice an improvement over time, especially if they are young.
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I'm a 657 but I give the 700s a good run for the money sometimes. I'm an engineer so I nerd out on this stuff
What's sad is people thinking all carbon fiber shafts are low deflection and not understanding what's going on. There is no shaft I've tried as low as the z3 or 11.8 revo. What do you call that amount?
Knowing someone who plays good with a high deflection shaft doesn't prove anything in particular.
More importantly is it easier to learn pool on high deflection or low deflection? If you start 100 beginners on high deflection and 100 on low, how many will reach 700?
Without goin way back to fact check, didn’t the og laminated shafts come into play mostly for reducing warpage, then the cf’s came along when they figured out that wasn’t foolproof. I’ve had many laminated shafts from all top companies over the years warp but I haven’t personally seen that with cf shafts, but I haven’t had near as many. I’ve for sure heard that from people since they’ve become so sensationalized though. Anyone know if there’s truth to that?
The laminated shafts aren’t what made them low deflection. It was the hollow area behind the tip. Although when the shafts were new to the market in the mid 90’s, a lot of players thought it was the laminations.
The laminations were supposed to make them radially consistent. I personally don’t think anyone has ever missed a shot with a solid wood shaft due to radial inconsistency. I think that was a “problem” that didn’t need solving.
The laminations also were a visible difference in the shaft. I think it helped Predator become #1 so quickly, even though it did nothing for the performance.
Mezz lo-def. wood shafts are solid wood with lightened front-ends. So is the MeucciPro. Both play great. IMO both have a better 'hit' than a laminated Pred. The best hitting lamin. shaft i ever used was the OB Classic Pro. Felt like solid wood to me.
Apparently. Most engineers do. You're dealing with minute differences in squirt that have little-to-no effect on how you play. Our eye/hand/brain connection will adjust to any cue very quickly. Overthinking this stuff is a waste of time/energy. I know quite a few 700+ and a few 750 range players. All but a couple use solid maple shafts. They don't know much about deflect. or hi-tech shafts nor do they care. They know THEIR cue and play a lot. All that matters.
Exactly. Been watching streams of DCC all week and think I’ve only seen 1 or 2 wooden shafts. It’s hilarious to me how everyone thinks they can “buy” a pool game.
Did you read what I wrote...and listen to what Filler said? my game went down when I tried to use the 12.4 and I never full adjusted. When I switched back, my game was back to normal
Just because someone doesn't understand deflection doesn't mean there isn't a difference. Also many good players play by instinct and can't even explain deflection, which is fine if you use the same cue all the time. Ever wonder why so many players hate the Revo? They are used to medium/high deflection and they don't realize it's the difference in deflection that makes them play bad
I can assure you most of the elite players probably do notice differences in deflection. Like Filler explains in the interview, he wanted a cue that deflected like a Z shaft, and they made a special 12.4 revo for him
Whatever dude. When you said 'engineer' i knew all i needed. I got eng. friends and they can't help themselves either. Sort of a curse at times over-thinking everything. I'm done. Leave you with this: https://newengineer.com/blog/10-jokes-only-engineers-will-find-funny-1111728 Good luck in your quest. Just don't go nuts. Or more nuts.
Whatever dude. When you said 'engineer' i knew all i needed. I got eng. friends and they can't help themselves either. Sort of a curse at times over-thinking everything. I'm done. Leave you with this: https://newengineer.com/blog/10-jokes-only-engineers-will-find-funny-1111728 Good luck in your quest. Just don't go nuts. Or more nuts.
Dunning Kruger Effect lol
Rewatch the Filler interview
Raymond Linares (703 FR) recently beat Joshua Filler (848 FR) hill-hill in a race to 9, so now I definitely don't want the "special Filler 12.4 Revo".
However, now I want the "special Linares cue"!!!!!
Someone tell me who he's sponsored by immediately so I can purchase it right now overnight shipping, be in my hand by tomorrow night, just in time to play my Monday night weekly race to 3 barbox tournament (capped at 10 players)
What's his shaft tip diameter?!?? Arghhh I need to know!!!!
However, now I want the "special Linares cue"!!!!!
Someone tell me who he's sponsored by immediately so I can purchase it right now overnight shipping, be in my hand by tomorrow night, just in time to play my Monday night weekly race to 3 barbox tournament (capped at 10 players)
What's his shaft tip diameter?!?? Arghhh I need to know!!!!
The pockets were easierWhat was Earl playing with when he ran that set out and won the 1M…maybe Jay will see this and can add some insight on his cue or shaft. Or what was Keith, Buddy and Matlock playing with when they was beating everyone. I doubt that old rattle trap Efren beat the world with was anything less that all deflection
It’s funny just watching all the cue / shaft threads play out
Clearly Filler won all those event at Derby ONLY because of his special custom Revo...no other reason