I Wish Tip Makers Would...

lfigueroa said:
I liked the French Triumphs with the red pads… admittedly you had to cut the pad off and reglue it to reduce your rate of mid-match failure, lol.

Lou Figueroa
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Here's something that may be a bit odd, but I have had the original Champion tips in the grey box since the 1970s, and never once have I had to cut the red fiber pad off before gluing it on or gluing on another pad. My guess is the original guy who did these tips did them better than some later brands. These were the real McCoy, I still have some, and still indulge myself now and then using them. Never had the tip come off the pad.

Fast forward to later, the Chandivert brand, was not that good. They did a version of Champion, Crown, and Match that were just not as good as the original. The Rocky was good, no pad. I have a feeling the original guy who buried the tips in his back yard to tan them knew what he was doing for both tip and pad adhesion. Usual disclaimer, your mileage may vary.

All the best,
WW
 
Cord said:
Nah. You always expect a certain scrap percentage. Tips are tiny; pigs are big. Last I checked, we ain't runnin' low on pigs.
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All of that may be so however I'm guessing a lower and smaller tip, pre-compressed, and with a curved top would be pretty popular.

Lou Figueroa
 
pooldawg8 said:
I hear ya John I tell people all the time. Play with the tip, leave it alone, don`t mess with it. But they still grid it down.
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I considered giving a Willard tip tool with every premium tip install. Those things are the cuesmith's friend. Anybody trying to keep a perfect nickel or dime tip can grind one off in a month or less!

I still have a couple in my case to show people what they are really playing with. Most people's tips are flatter than they think. At one time I originally shaped mine to a dime radius. After a little play it shaped itself to a little flatter than a nickel, maybe a quarter. It stabilizes there and now I leave my tips alone other than lightly breaking the glaze when I start play.

I use an Elkmaster, dudded or not. After a quality tip being selected it lasts me for years. I am very easy on tips. Automotive clutches and brakes too, I wonder if there is a connection?

Hu
 
lfigueroa said:
All of that may be so however I'm guessing a lower and smaller tip, pre-compressed, and with a curved top would be pretty popular.

Lou Figueroa
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Zen tips are kind of fitting this bill. Had one on each of the new shafts I had. Rock hard, but say Medium. The older TW coach at my hall said they are supposed to play like a Medium that's been played in. So they start small, rounded and feel hard. still 9 pieces (I think while sat here at my work desk, will check later) of pig skin.
I want to change them out ASAP, and the guy is telling me to take a few days 'beating' balls, and give a little reshape, then they'll last me a long, long time... My issue is, the Xpro feels too hard already...
I have hit with them for two days now. Testing both the Xpro and Xq shaft out - playing a bit of 9ball and Chinese-8.
Have not got on with the feel of the hardness on the tip on the Xpro, though I did win my match last night 10-6 - The tip actually felt reasonable on the Xq playing a bit of Chinese-8
 
lfigueroa said:
Do most guys really like a tall tip?

When I think of all the pros I’ve played over the years I can’t think of a one that came to the table with a big honkin’ tip.

Lou Figueroa
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I use a chainsaw to shape the tall ones and create animals I sell at fairs and festivals. Eagles are popular.😉🤣🤣
 
WildWing said:
Yeah, I didn't say they were good, just that there were some back then. I don't think anything will take the place of leather, unless someone comes up with something really brilliant.

All the best,
WW
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What's the story on those Bulletproof synthetics??
I'd like to hear how they play.
Not the break tips, the playing tips, especially the hard.
 
lfigueroa said:
Not saying it’s a hard thing to do, just seems like — if a majority of players are cutting them down — then perhaps they should be made shorter to begin with.

Udderwise you’re just paying for skin you’re gonna lop off.

Lou Figueroa
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That gives 'em that 'wow factor' (by being tall) when first glimpsing the tip they just paid 40 bucks for!!
 
Cue tips that use magnets instead of glue. This way players can have more cue tips ready and buy more cue tips.

Every pro should promote that all serious players own all the proper equipment, the latest being magnets.

Add in a classic adapter for the magnetized ferrule.

Make every piece magnetized, no more screws.
 
Mensabum said:
What's the story on those Bulletproof synthetics??
I'd like to hear how they play.
Not the break tips, the playing tips, especially the hard.
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A few decades ago, I read some advertisements on synthetic tips. I forget the brand names, but have never tried them. To me, leather is still the best option, because you can have it a bit soft if that's your preference, or you can press it good, and have it very hard. Also, if it glazes and gets a bit slick, you can rough it up a bit without losing the whole grain. I'm going to have to hunt a bit for some synthetic ads, hard to find.

All this of course, does not include the phenolic tips, which a bunch of us use as break tips.

All the best,
WW
 
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