I wonder if anyone else feels this way...

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ktrepal85

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I mostly play on bar boxes because the pool hall is so far away and the bars are so close. I even have a bar box in my house and I play a lot of bar box nine ball. Since most of the shots on a bar box are so short I usually get in a rhythm and just run balls not putting too much emphasis on shooting perfectly toward the center of the pocket. I'm more focused on cue ball position.

On the weekends I go down to the poolhall which has brand new procut diamond 9 footers. If I shoot with my normal bar box rhythm I miss a lot of shots on the big tables. I realized that my normal rhythm stroke must not be 100% steady because if I completely focus on steadying myself on the 9 footers the balls will go in.

So on the 9 footers I have to completely change my shooting style to play well. I have to stand in front of the ball for a second and visualize the shot, then get down on the shot, completely steady every muscle in my body and execute. It's very tiring and I can't get in a rhythm. It takes so much out of me to make the shot that I feel exhausted after shooting a few racks because I am concentrating so hard.

It's almost not fun to play on the big tables because of how draining it is and how tough it is to stay motivated if I'm not gambling.

Does anyone else have this problem or have they ever had this problem and got past it?

I'm hoping that if I keep playing on the big tables long enough my body will naturally become steady and focused and I can finally find a rhythm.

What do you guys think?
 
Conditioning is key. If you always play like you are on the 9 foot your stamina will go up. Bar boxes are all around me but I still play 90% big table. Had to buy one though makes it easier.


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You are just used to the 7 foot table. Yes the game is more difficult on the 9 footers for may reasons. I play almost strictly on 9 footers so my pre shot routine is just a part of my game and only requires what I would consider the usual thought processes. You on the other hand perceive the 9 footer to be a completely different animal and have altered your game accordingly. Could it just be in your head as they say? I find that when I move to 7 footers, say when practicing for the SBE, the 7 footers are easier to pocket balls because there are no long shots.
 
I thinh you need to change your shooting style on the barbox. Focus on being deliberate and accurate. This will carry over to the big table game.
 
It really depends on how good a player you are. If you're very good it won't matter at all. The transition will be effortless.
The key then, is to become a very good player, and the only way to do that is play lots, and lots, of pool.
Playing pool is easy, too. But, playing great pool is very difficult. Once you get to where you play great pool, it's easy again. Go figure. :)
 
If you are into guns at all, its like the difference in shooting a handgun at 5 yards compared to 50 yards. This comparison isnt perfect of course, but you see what Im getting at.
 
Chuck Fields said:
If you are into guns at all, its like the difference in shooting a handgun at 5 yards compared to 50 yards. This comparison isnt perfect of course, but you see what Im getting at.
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Either way I'd probably end up shooting myself in the foot! :p

As far as the OP...I'm the opposite. I have a 9' Diamond at the house and am used to playing on that rather than the smaller tables. I just figure I have to shoot 7/9ths as hard or fast in order to adjust! (Makes sense mathematically! :D )
 
ktrepal85 said:
I mostly play on bar boxes because the pool hall is so far away and the bars are so close. I even have a bar box in my house and I play a lot of bar box nine ball. Since most of the shots on a bar box are so short I usually get in a rhythm and just run balls not putting too much emphasis on shooting perfectly toward the center of the pocket. I'm more focused on cue ball position.

On the weekends I go down to the poolhall which has brand new procut diamond 9 footers. If I shoot with my normal bar box rhythm I miss a lot of shots on the big tables. I realized that my normal rhythm stroke must not be 100% steady because if I completely focus on steadying myself on the 9 footers the balls will go in.

So on the 9 footers I have to completely change my shooting style to play well. I have to stand in front of the ball for a second and visualize the shot, then get down on the shot, completely steady every muscle in my body and execute. It's very tiring and I can't get in a rhythm. It takes so much out of me to make the shot that I feel exhausted after shooting a few racks because I am concentrating so hard.

It's almost not fun to play on the big tables because of how draining it is and how tough it is to stay motivated if I'm not gambling.

Does anyone else have this problem or have they ever had this problem and got past it?

I'm hoping that if I keep playing on the big tables long enough my body will naturally become steady and focused and I can finally find a rhythm.

What do you guys think?
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:p



Nine footers compared to seven footers is a completely different game.

On a seven footer you just use that baby stroke and on a nine footer you need

to open it up.


It's like being with a big woman when you are used to being with

a short skinny woman. :love:



Oh...and don't forget you need a special pool cue for each table. Not just one cue works for all.




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If you want to get better on a 9' table you need to play more on a 9' table.
 
I think it is easier to go from a 9' table to a barbox. Going from a 7' to a 9' used to be tough for me but I have a 9' table at home now. The only issues I really run into are speed, it sounds wrong but some shots you have to hit harder on a 7', especially playing across the short side. On a 9' table you can hold the QB playing the short side where on a 7' table you think you can but you actually cant hold the QB, thats where you need to hit harder to go to the other rail and back out again.
 
Me personally, I'd started playing pool on the 9 footers and would play on the bar box every now and then due to CPA leagues. What I've noticed is that the bar box tables were considerably easier due to it's smaller distance you require to shoot (obviously). But at the same time, the amount of power I require to shoot with changes entirely. I reduce my power by 50% when I play on the bar box tables, even my break so the cue ball doesn't fly off the table.

My advice is to get used to the 9 footers first, then re-transition to bar box. You learn to aim better and force yourself to shoot straight for those long shots, there's little to no room for error. Bar box tables are obviously more forgiving when it comes to both accuracy and consistency, so when you learn how to play comfortably on the 9 footers, bar box will look like it's a piece of cake.

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Using any English at all will cause you to miss shots on the 9 footers vs the 7 foot bar box. Playing 9 ball on the bigger table the balls usually spread farther apart so getting a good angle on your first shot so you can just use pocket speed to pocket the balls makes the game more enjoyable to me.
 
Barbox vs Big Table Pool

ktrepal85 said:
I mostly play on bar boxes because the pool hall is so far away and the bars are so close. I even have a bar box in my house and I play a lot of bar box nine ball. Since most of the shots on a bar box are so short I usually get in a rhythm and just run balls not putting too much emphasis on shooting perfectly toward the center of the pocket. I'm more focused on cue ball position.

On the weekends I go down to the poolhall which has brand new procut diamond 9 footers. If I shoot with my normal bar box rhythm I miss a lot of shots on the big tables. I realized that my normal rhythm stroke must not be 100% steady because if I completely focus on steadying myself on the 9 footers the balls will go in.

So on the 9 footers I have to completely change my shooting style to play well. I have to stand in front of the ball for a second and visualize the shot, then get down on the shot, completely steady every muscle in my body and execute. It's very tiring and I can't get in a rhythm. It takes so much out of me to make the shot that I feel exhausted after shooting a few racks because I am concentrating so hard.

It's almost not fun to play on the big tables because of how draining it is and how tough it is to stay motivated if I'm not gambling.

Does anyone else have this problem or have they ever had this problem and got past it?

I'm hoping that if I keep playing on the big tables long enough my body will naturally become steady and focused and I can finally find a rhythm.

What do you guys think?
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Well this is a big one hmm where to start.

Its a great thing that you can get your rhythm going on the barbox, not a thing wrong with that and the big table is more difficult sure enough but all the lessons the bar box teaches you transfer the big table they are just bigger.

The big picture for me is that if you can get shape on the little table then you can learn to get shape on the big table the same way but it might take a bigger stroke so you have to remember what you did on the one to adjust to the other.

Im not a big 9 ball fan these days because Im into One Pocket but that's the same way. I find I have a perfect short range stroke and a good long range stroke but the mid ranges that you need for 9 ball Im a bit unfamiliar with right now but they will come as I focus on what I know I need to switch back and forth.

I like One Pocket as a teacher for 9 ball because precise cue ball control is the answer in all pool games just as I like the barbox for teaching position on the big tables if that makes any sense. Smaller table smaller stroke needed, bigger table more stroke but the plans are very similar and the lessons get learned which is the main thing.
 
I play only on 9-footers (because I can) - the difference for me is between 9-footers with tight pockets and 9-footers with buckets. When I'm practicing on bucket pockets I try to stay sharp by aiming to hit the pocket facing on one side of the pocket or the other. Might work on bar boxes too...?

pj
chgo
 
Harder things are harder to do...
And 9'ers are harder than 7'ers. Add the diamond factor and that 9'er gets even harder.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I play only on 9-footers (because I can) - the difference for me is between 9-footers with tight pockets and 9-footers with buckets. When I'm practicing on bucket pockets I try to stay sharp by aiming to hit the pocket facing on one side of the pocket or the other. Might work on bar boxes too...?

pj
chgo
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Patrick, I'm with you. Just can't let it out on the 7 footers especially Diamonds. I like a double shimmed Gold Crown. If it wasn't for the SBE I'd never play on a 7 footer.
 
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