If you are going to play the pros at one hole...

If you want to win against the best you better run out when given a chance. Go for a thin cut, the medium/hard bank or a long shot when you get it, because you may never get a shot again.
Roy, I'm trying to put together a fiction ( all fiction) book about the life of a pool player, Can I use your opinion? Thank you Guy...
That doesn't even help unless you're only playing someone slightly better than you. Really, against a quality 1pkt player, it just extends the game a little for you. You'll still end up locked down frozen to/or behind something sooner rather than later. Ask me how I know...
8cree, I'm trying to put together a book about the life of a pool player this kind of opinion is exactly what I need from the forum members, This book is all fiction, no mixing of reality, like AZb or members names... Can I use your opinion? Guy...
 
I’ve shot at a few white flags but I don’t shoot as straight as you. I’ve had to learn how to move because of my crooked stroke.
I've stayed up nights trying to figure out how could get the members to give me their opinions on this 1p game and here it is, Can I use your opinion in my book ? My book is all fiction, no reality, no member names or AZb or anything like that, just our real opinions... Guy
 
Seems like the only way you can win is if you put a so many (2 stop, 3 stop) rule on them.
Thanks to ATLarge for his stats.
This is just incredible.

High runs

12-and-out -- once, by Pagulayan (Match 3)
10 (not out) -- once, by Pagulayan (Match 5)
9-and-out -- 3 times: 2 by Pagulayan (Matches 3 and 6) and 1 by Gomez (Match 6)
8-and-out -- 15 times: 9 by Pagulayan, 3 by Chohan, and 1 each by Lunda, Gomez, and Morra
U12, thank you for doing this thread, you got me out of my writing block... A Million Thanks and maybe if I can live long enough I can send you my book... I won't forget... Guy
 
Here is a tip to save you guys that want to listen a lot of money
If the skill level between you two is too great there is no spot that you can win
😱
Brutal but true and accept it
Jmho
Icbw
But dont think
bbb, Guy here, can I use your 1p opinion in my book, all fiction no reality no AZb or member names just a book about a pool player and life based on my feeble mind... Please... Guy
 
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Here is a tip to save you guys that want to listen a lot of money
If the skill level between you two is too great there is no spot that you can win
😱
Brutal but true and accept it
Jmho
Icbw
But dont think so

Spot on! I have seen truly ridiculous spots that I thought a blind man with his cane could win with. Maybe the blind man could, the fish on the table couldn't. I saw a bet, just drive the nine ball to a rail or pocket on a legal shot and you win, combo's and caroms included! I rambled off and when I passed back by that table they were adjusting the spot to give the fish with a huge spot a better chance. I shook my head to myself, every bet the sucker made was gonna be another good sized chunk gone. They were playing sets too so the bet was pretty large.

Seen similar a few times. I have seen the opposite too. Local guys playing somebody that should have been spotting them the moon and a few stars and they were playing even. First time the local was a real friend of mine and I started to wade into the middle of their match and stop the heist, pool ettaquity be damned! Fortunately I stopped near the table a minute before interrupting. The local was kicking ass and taking names! He almost passed out when I told him later who it was he had beat on for three sets in a row. Saw this a few times over the years and me being ignorant about who I was playing certainly didn't hurt! I was the bull of the local woods even if the woods were just three trees and a little cane. Come in the place looking for action and you got me.

Hu
 
It always amazes me when I watch matches from the Derby and it's a no-name playing Alex or Efren. They'll be left a low percentage shot and instead of shooting it, they try to out move the pro. If I'm playing Alex, I will swing at my hole if I have any kind of shot.
Easy, this opinion on 1p stuff is exactly what I need for my book , Please let me use your opinion here? The book is all fiction, no AZb or members names, just a book of a pool player out of my mind... Thank you ,Guy
 
So true. It's why they can spot guys 18-6 and still outrun it.
Z, Guy here, I'm trying to put together a fictional book of the life and time of a pool player, No reality just from my feeble mind, I need opinions from individual members like this one of yours... Can I use it in my book ? Thanks...
 
Let’s all help Guy much as we can. Support his ideas, answer his questions. This is very important to him and I want to do my part. We can argue amongst our self’s later. Let’s just be cool and help out Guy.

Thanks
Fatboy<———this is important to me😊
 
you guys have to learn how to handicap a game with all kinds of players if you are gambling. doesn't matter how good they are if you have the best of the spot you will win over time. simple as that.

to make it easier. suppose a 4 minute miler was running against you for money. to make it an even bet you would ask for a one minute ten second spot if you run one in 5 minutes. simple as that. doesnt matter how fast he is if he cant bet your time with the spot you will win.

it is easier to beat a great player with the right spot than a terrible one as the terrible one will have a larger dispersion in his scores and can fool you.

and if you are in tournaments with pros that run out often you are a fish for throwing your money away so expect the inevitable result.
 
you guys have to learn how to handicap a game with all kinds of players if you are gambling. doesn't matter how good they are if you have the best of the spot you will win over time. simple as that.

to make it easier. suppose a 4 minute miler was running against you for money. to make it an even bet you would ask for a one minute ten second spot if you run one in 5 minutes. simple as that. doesnt matter how fast he is if he cant bet your time with the spot you will win.

it is easier to beat a great player with the right spot than a terrible one as the terrible one will have a larger dispersion in his scores and can fool you.

and if you are in tournaments with pros that run out often you are a fish for throwing your money away so expect the inevitable result.
I’m not sure what kind of fish I am but I have lots of fun making a few pros squirm. I don’t remember any of them running 8 on me🤪
 
Let’s all help Guy much as we can. Support his ideas, answer his questions. This is very important to him and I want to do my part. We can argue amongst our self’s later. Let’s just be cool and help out Guy.

Thanks
Fatboy<———this is important to me😊
May all your oranges be 5's... Complete accident i found this post, If you are going to play the pros at one hole... Eric this was exactly what I needed , Opinions, real opinions from members , Not trying to teach an old man how to play a game long past-tence, I knew many of peoples games before they were born, You can put lots of learning in seventy-five plus years... Guy . You know I thank you...
 
Spots are for suckers lol. If a guy is offering you a spot, he can (usually) beat you with that spot.
I refer to spots as "bait". And, as an advanced player, I've hooked a lot of fish with them lol
Also, for the record Guy, you can use any post I make on this forum in your book-- good luck!
 
I’m not sure what kind of fish I am but I have lots of fun making a few pros squirm. I don’t remember any of them running 8 on me🤪
Yes, And Pilot if I can just use your reply post for my book, this would really help out... My book is all fiction as far as members go, no names or companys... Guy
 
you guys have to learn how to handicap a game with all kinds of players if you are gambling. doesn't matter how good they are if you have the best of the spot you will win over time. simple as that.

to make it easier. suppose a 4 minute miler was running against you for money. to make it an even bet you would ask for a one minute ten second spot if you run one in 5 minutes. simple as that. doesnt matter how fast he is if he cant bet your time with the spot you will win.

it is easier to beat a great player with the right spot than a terrible one as the terrible one will have a larger dispersion in his scores and can fool you.

and if you are in tournaments with pros that run out often you are a fish for throwing your money away so expect the inevitable result.


The thing is that people match up to win with their typical game, not their balls to the wall game. The better player has a lot more reserve than somebody that is little more than a banger. Then we get to read, "I win, but I always have to outrun the nuts to do it." Naah, if you really had to outrun the nuts you would rarely win. Truth is you gave a big enough spot you had to dig deep to win, and that is how it should be with a fair spot. No matter how big of a spot you give somebody if you win without having to dig deep the spot was well in your favor.

On the other hand, if the fish plays the match of his life he should win. That isn't likely to happen because he has put himself in a position he really doesn't expect to win. It has been my experience that players find a way to play up, or down, to their expectations. If the better player messes up, the lesser player will mess up worse!

When there is a large gap between the two, winners find a way to win, losers find a way to lose. The mathematics don't enter into things. I had it happen to me, in my early pool playing I couldn't beat one particular guy. Others even noticed it, other players that I drubbed regularly had beat on him all one evening, I came in and promptly lost to him over and over. I knew the problem, while I was a pretty insecure nobody on a high school campus he was the, as in tha the, big man on campus. Facing him I had a feeling of inferiority that had nothing to do with pool but showed on the table. My game fell apart playing him. Recognizing it was a mental thing I kept trying to fight past it for about six months, never did find a way past him and losing to him two or three times a week did nothing for my game!

I was building self-confidence in several other ways and I continued to beat better and better pool players. I would have been better off avoiding the ex big man on campus but at that age I thought the best way to deal with challenges was to face them head on until they were defeated. I did just that with another strong player in the same time period.

I could beat the other guy anytime I wanted to but he cut balls like a god so that is what I challenged him at. It got to where everyone else in the place would quit play to watch our battles. I finally got to where I cut better than he did. That dragon was conquered. I never did beat the big man on campus consistently, we just started moving in different circles and faded apart. Just as well, I was making an alcoholic out of him playing for beer and wine!

Hu
 
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May all your oranges be 5's... Complete accident i found this post, If you are going to play the pros at one hole... Eric this was exactly what I needed , Opinions, real opinions from members , Not trying to teach an old man how to play a game long past-tence, I knew many of peoples games before they were born, You can put lots of learning in seventy-five plus years... Guy . You know I thank you...
Happy to help Guy! Anything anytime please ask me. 😃❤️💪
 
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