If you were a Billionaire, what would you do for the game of Pool ?

Desmondp

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Tough call, because just throwing money as prize money wouldn't fix the grass roots problems with the game

I would however organise a World Cuesports Championships, Invite only, plus qualifiers. 2 million dollars to the winner, 750K to runner up and another million in prizes to the rest of the field.

A event which consists of all cuesport disciplines including

Snooker
9 Ball
Bank pool
English 8 Ball
3 cushion
maybe One pocket


Anyway a balance which would give participants from any discipline a chance of winning

Would invite all world champions and Top 2-3 from each discipline, invite only field no bigger than 16

So you would include

Ronnie O Sullivan
Neil Robertson
Gareth Potts
Mick Hill
Darren Appleton
Efren Reyes
Earl Strickland
Wu Chia Ching
3 cushion world champ, dunno who that is
etc etc
 
Send Jay a check for 10 Meg and tell him he has 5 years to do whatever he thinks is best. 200K for him. 1.8 for the field and other stuff.

Nick
 
First and foremost I would open up a large pool hall. I would also like to run a small tour that would run in between major events of maybe 6 to 8 events. There would be know way that I would pay to sanction a single event, but I would have at least 200k going to first per event. I'm sure that I would probably even sponsor a player or two as erl.
 
Bankroll a movie or two. The Hustler and The Color of Money help revived pool twice. Minnesota Fats would still probably be New York Fats if the Hustler hasn't caught on. Chelsea Billiards, which produced Ginky and Jeanette Lee, may not have opened if the Color of Money didnt' come out and everyone wanted to be Vincent and play 9-Ball to the beat of Werewolves of London.
 
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Money no object

I would get a few dozen old time players with teaching skill put them on salary with benefits. Have them work with room owners aroung the country and set up cue sports academies. The room owners would be compensated. If needed re open some of the closed rooms. There would be everything, videos, books other training aids to be used for learning.

Also I would get tourning professionals to visit for exhibitions, challenge games and critiques.

We MUST get the kids involved.
 
I would actually try and do something with the APA. The APA is doing a lot to introduce the real amatuers and new players to the game. Younger players that never thought just an average bar player or once in awhile guy could win and then be hooked on the game.

I've seen it a lot in my area. You have people that love to play but think they would just get killed in a league and then find out it's a handicapped league and they can win. After a few times playing they're hooked.

They just need to do some promotions and somehow reach new players like T.V. comercials and things to that nature.
 
I think I would bankroll the sport in my local school system. It would be great for the game if kids could participate on the level of actually earning a varsity letter in billiard sports. State high school championships would be the ultimate goal.
 
I'd probably do a few things, a couple locally and a couple to help the sport as a whole.

I'd offer a consultant fee to a select group of people that could actually have useful, supportive, "non personal agenda'd" (you know what I mean), type of ideas and put them up somewhere to brainstorm for a few days. (Jay being a great suggestion, as was mentioned.) Minimum 5 hours a day for 4 days in a room WITHOUT A POOL TABLE (cause you know they would turn it into a chance to match up). I would think coming up with ideas that wouldn't just be a new type of tour or just support the pros better (even though this is needed) wouldn't be the solution. Ways to introduce new players, maybe an overlay style of bonuses for league operators that bring the most new players in that stay for 2 sessions. Maybe a huge set of donations of tables to boys and girls clubs, YMCAs, youth organization centers, etc. Possibly even a fund to just allow those orgs to buy a used table and get 100% refunded, which would allow for more places to get tables for affordable amounts, increasing the total saturation. I don't know, I'm only tossing crazy ideas out, I'm sure those that are in the know would have even better ideas and with the "consultant fee" being offered would have the time to come up with those ideas instead of the 2 minutes I've thought about it, heh. Maybe even just buying more main stream advertising would help, who knows.

Locally, I would open a pool room and have the attitude of Ralph Procopio of Chicago Billiards, the room that "Kid Delicious" learned in. My favorite person in Running the Table was Ralph, the man who owned that pool hall/ gambling den/flop house. I would even stream a "game show" style like what is currently out there, but my rules would be even crazier, the money would be triple matched out of my pocket, but I would win every single week. Hey, it's my room, my rules, my money ... suck it up! Second place on down would be very happy with their results, it would just be a running joke that it would be the only tournament I could win!

One last thing I would do ... I would watch the forums for the people who ask and seem sincere in their posts regarding buying their first cue. I would then contact them, tell them to keep it totally quiet or the whole thing would end, then send them like 4 or 5 decent cues to try out and tell them to keep the one they liked the most for free and send the rest back. The first person who "broke the chain" would end it for everyone and would get flamed to no end! :grin-devilish:
 
This is really nothing more than a repackaging of the age old question of how to get pool to become bigtime. Perhaps with a slight twist, which is throwing money at a problem. The government does that, and it doesn't work.


I'll be a sport and at least answer the question by saying I would pour millions of dollars into sponsoring and establishing cue sports at the University and College level. Brings legitimacy, brings a change in perception. Or at least, one would hope.

Another idea might be to create a pool reality tv show. Except, none of the usual people. No pros. None of the promoters of the game. Perhaps a couple pros as advisers or coaches. Not a tournament. Maybe revolve around a pool hall. Drama, relationships, conflict, action...all that good stuff. But with some component of competition revolving around pool involved. I don't know. Just thinking out loud. But the key would be to completely throw out the old, bring in the new. Anytime something new is tried in pool, it's the same faces. No offense, but I'm sick of their faces (some pros, promoters and persona's in pool today). You aren't appealing to the non-pool world and are even tiresome to the already pool-loving base.


Perhaps going the other route. Instead of trying to clean up or legitimize pool, go all out negative. Appeal to those who want to play the shady game. Gambling and the whole pool hall scene. Make it the bad guy sport. People are attracted to that sort of thing.


Basically, doing something grassroots. To rebuild. Most people on this forum have horrible ideas that have already been tried 100x over with slight variation. Dinosaurs. There's no squeezing blood from a stone. Progress is learning from past mistakes, not making them over and over. Progress is not having a hundred debates over which rule to change regarding breaking the balls ( like in 9-ball ). In the big picture, from an outsider's perspective that is so insignificant and minor. It's irrelevant to the greater question of what will bring pool success. Yet, some actually think the break through will come based on what game or by what rules games are played. Hate to break it to you guys, but changing the rules of 9-ball ain't going to make pool hit the big time. No average joe is going to flock to pool because some rotation game rule change. How silly. That's thinking at the micro level. What has to change is the greater strategy.


By no means do I claim to have the answers. I'm probably just as wrong as everyone else. The college thing was just an example to illustrate my theory that maybe taking a different approach is in order. Now, that approach doesn't make anyone any money. At least not in the short or medium term. But in the context of this thread, where the idea is that some rich person will essentially donate or grant money to the cause of advancing pool - then ideas that do not necessarily bring immediate profit can be explored.


Time is short too. Electronic entertainment is the direct competitor of pool. More and more youth are stuck behind an LCD screen, rather than bored and finding their way to a pool room to pass the time. I see pool going down, not up in the coming years. People misinterpret what they see. There is no growth in pool now, despite some claiming growth. I based that on velocity. Given the globalization of the world as well as the internet, pool is lagging behind. If it kept up with expanding markets and the dramatic increase in exposure, it should be several times larger than it is now. Maybe not big time, but easily greater than now.


If pool is to ever make a come back, it will have to have willing patrons, who have the patience to follow a solid plan for years, perhaps decades to ensure success. The will and understanding that Rome wasn't built in a day. It will take a generation of "founders" to work toward it without the expectation of instant success.


What we see today is still the same model of the 1970's to early 1980's being reimplemented with slight variations. Those ideas, made with good intentions to revive pool, have not worked. Time for something new. A final note on that. New ideas come from new people. The current ones in charge are dinosaurs. The dinos aren't going let a bunch of new people do what they want or think. At least not on their dime. Which is understandable. In other sports and industries, there exists a separation between investor and inventor/innovator. The people paying to make something happen, and the people making it happen. Not in pool. Those with some money obviously don't have what it takes, and they show no interest in hiring those that do have what it takes.


It can be done. I may be pessimistic about most things, but I still believe it can be done.

Pool is very attractive, but it is made ugly or it is veiled. Pool is a super model with a burka on. People don't know what they're missing. If "old school" games like golf and others can survive in the modern age, so too can pool. It can prosper.


If I were a billionaire, I would hire people who have a proven track record of reviving things and promoting things or making the unknown successful and put them to the task of working on pool. See what they come up with.


Step 1 is figuring out the problem. I think I got a handle on that. Described it in many posts here on AZB over the years. Step 2 is developing a strategy. That's the big question.
 
If I were a billionaire, I would hire people who have a proven track record of reviving things and promoting things or making the unknown successful and put them to the task of working on pool. See what they come up with.

Hehe, I wonder how much money it would take to hire Richard Branson to revitalize pool? If I only had a billion, I wouldn't want to spend 750 million to make it worth his while.
 
I would do something very similar to what Kevin Trudeau did, making the tournaments look like an extremely high quality and prestigious event...... except I would PAY THE FRIGGIN PLAYERS!!!!!

And I would also make deals to get sponsorships for all the top players so they don't have to worry about about the ridiculous expenses it costs them to travel and play tournaments.

Another thought I had would be to make my own cable TV channel, dedicated to pool and only pool! It would be AWESOME to have a channel televising pool non stop, all day and all night.

And lastly, my number one goal would to be either somehow get a pool TV reality series going about professional pool players, and the trials and tribulations they go through on a daily basis. That would include playing major tournaments and most definitely gambling for LOTS of money! Aside from that, I would spend millions and millions of dollars to get an elite movie producer, writer, and director to make a pool movie that would rivet the nation, and hopefully get a pool boom going again like The Hustler and The Color of Money did.

That would be so sweet!


That's the best I can think of.
 
This is really nothing more than a repackaging of the age old question of how to get pool to become bigtime. Perhaps with a slight twist, which is throwing money at a problem. The government does that, and it doesn't work.


I'll be a sport and at least answer the question by saying I would pour millions of dollars into sponsoring and establishing cue sports at the University and College level. Brings legitimacy, brings a change in perception. Or at least, one would hope.

Another idea might be to create a pool reality tv show. Except, none of the usual people. No pros. None of the promoters of the game. Perhaps a couple pros as advisers or coaches. Not a tournament. Maybe revolve around a pool hall. Drama, relationships, conflict, action...all that good stuff. But with some component of competition revolving around pool involved. I don't know. Just thinking out loud. But the key would be to completely throw out the old, bring in the new. Anytime something new is tried in pool, it's the same faces. No offense, but I'm sick of their faces (some pros, promoters and persona's in pool today). You aren't appealing to the non-pool world and are even tiresome to the already pool-loving base.


Perhaps going the other route. Instead of trying to clean up or legitimize pool, go all out negative. Appeal to those who want to play the shady game. Gambling and the whole pool hall scene. Make it the bad guy sport. People are attracted to that sort of thing.


Basically, doing something grassroots. To rebuild. Most people on this forum have horrible ideas that have already been tried 100x over with slight variation. Dinosaurs. There's no squeezing blood from a stone. Progress is learning from past mistakes, not making them over and over. Progress is not having a hundred debates over which rule to change regarding breaking the balls ( like in 9-ball ). In the big picture, from an outsider's perspective that is so insignificant and minor. It's irrelevant to the greater question of what will bring pool success. Yet, some actually think the break through will come based on what game or by what rules games are played. Hate to break it to you guys, but changing the rules of 9-ball ain't going to make pool hit the big time. No average joe is going to flock to pool because some rotation game rule change. How silly. That's thinking at the micro level. What has to change is the greater strategy.


By no means do I claim to have the answers. I'm probably just as wrong as everyone else. The college thing was just an example to illustrate my theory that maybe taking a different approach is in order. Now, that approach doesn't make anyone any money. At least not in the short or medium term. But in the context of this thread, where the idea is that some rich person will essentially donate or grant money to the cause of advancing pool - then ideas that do not necessarily bring immediate profit can be explored.


Time is short too. Electronic entertainment is the direct competitor of pool. More and more youth are stuck behind an LCD screen, rather than bored and finding their way to a pool room to pass the time. I see pool going down, not up in the coming years. People misinterpret what they see. There is no growth in pool now, despite some claiming growth. I based that on velocity. Given the globalization of the world as well as the internet, pool is lagging behind. If it kept up with expanding markets and the dramatic increase in exposure, it should be several times larger than it is now. Maybe not big time, but easily greater than now.


If pool is to ever make a come back, it will have to have willing patrons, who have the patience to follow a solid plan for years, perhaps decades to ensure success. The will and understanding that Rome wasn't built in a day. It will take a generation of "founders" to work toward it without the expectation of instant success.


What we see today is still the same model of the 1970's to early 1980's being reimplemented with slight variations. Those ideas, made with good intentions to revive pool, have not worked. Time for something new. A final note on that. New ideas come from new people. The current ones in charge are dinosaurs. The dinos aren't going let a bunch of new people do what they want or think. At least not on their dime. Which is understandable. In other sports and industries, there exists a separation between investor and inventor/innovator. The people paying to make something happen, and the people making it happen. Not in pool. Those with some money obviously don't have what it takes, and they show no interest in hiring those that do have what it takes.


It can be done. I may be pessimistic about most things, but I still believe it can be done.

Pool is very attractive, but it is made ugly or it is veiled. Pool is a super model with a burka on. People don't know what they're missing. If "old school" games like golf and others can survive in the modern age, so too can pool. It can prosper.


If I were a billionaire, I would hire people who have a proven track record of reviving things and promoting things or making the unknown successful and put them to the task of working on pool. See what they come up with.


Step 1 is figuring out the problem. I think I got a handle on that. Described it in many posts here on AZB over the years. Step 2 is developing a strategy. That's the big question.

Hey,I think you have some great Ideas!! Let me try to make one of your points a little more clear. The only answer I can add Is getting everything
out of THE POOL PLAYERS hands. Most are just trying to get what they can for tomorrow,and not thinking about the future. Oh well..I'v been saying the same thing for years.Greed, I think Is one of the main problems.
Thanks,John B.
 
I would give every pro a full scholarship to a college or technical college & tell em this is your one chance to do something with your life cuz there aint no money in pool !!!! :D
 
This is really nothing more than a repackaging of the age old question of how to get pool to become bigtime. Perhaps with a slight twist, which is throwing money at a problem. The government does that, and it doesn't work.


I'll be a sport and at least answer the question by saying I would pour millions of dollars into sponsoring and establishing cue sports at the University and College level. Brings legitimacy, brings a change in perception. Or at least, one would hope.

Another idea might be to create a pool reality tv show. Except, none of the usual people. No pros. None of the promoters of the game. Perhaps a couple pros as advisers or coaches. Not a tournament. Maybe revolve around a pool hall. Drama, relationships, conflict, action...all that good stuff. But with some component of competition revolving around pool involved. I don't know. Just thinking out loud. But the key would be to completely throw out the old, bring in the new. Anytime something new is tried in pool, it's the same faces. No offense, but I'm sick of their faces (some pros, promoters and persona's in pool today). You aren't appealing to the non-pool world and are even tiresome to the already pool-loving base.


Perhaps going the other route. Instead of trying to clean up or legitimize pool, go all out negative. Appeal to those who want to play the shady game. Gambling and the whole pool hall scene. Make it the bad guy sport. People are attracted to that sort of thing.


Basically, doing something grassroots. To rebuild. Most people on this forum have horrible ideas that have already been tried 100x over with slight variation. Dinosaurs. There's no squeezing blood from a stone. Progress is learning from past mistakes, not making them over and over. Progress is not having a hundred debates over which rule to change regarding breaking the balls ( like in 9-ball ). In the big picture, from an outsider's perspective that is so insignificant and minor. It's irrelevant to the greater question of what will bring pool success. Yet, some actually think the break through will come based on what game or by what rules games are played. Hate to break it to you guys, but changing the rules of 9-ball ain't going to make pool hit the big time. No average joe is going to flock to pool because some rotation game rule change. How silly. That's thinking at the micro level. What has to change is the greater strategy.


By no means do I claim to have the answers. I'm probably just as wrong as everyone else. The college thing was just an example to illustrate my theory that maybe taking a different approach is in order. Now, that approach doesn't make anyone any money. At least not in the short or medium term. But in the context of this thread, where the idea is that some rich person will essentially donate or grant money to the cause of advancing pool - then ideas that do not necessarily bring immediate profit can be explored.


Time is short too. Electronic entertainment is the direct competitor of pool. More and more youth are stuck behind an LCD screen, rather than bored and finding their way to a pool room to pass the time. I see pool going down, not up in the coming years. People misinterpret what they see. There is no growth in pool now, despite some claiming growth. I based that on velocity. Given the globalization of the world as well as the internet, pool is lagging behind. If it kept up with expanding markets and the dramatic increase in exposure, it should be several times larger than it is now. Maybe not big time, but easily greater than now.


If pool is to ever make a come back, it will have to have willing patrons, who have the patience to follow a solid plan for years, perhaps decades to ensure success. The will and understanding that Rome wasn't built in a day. It will take a generation of "founders" to work toward it without the expectation of instant success.


What we see today is still the same model of the 1970's to early 1980's being reimplemented with slight variations. Those ideas, made with good intentions to revive pool, have not worked. Time for something new. A final note on that. New ideas come from new people. The current ones in charge are dinosaurs. The dinos aren't going let a bunch of new people do what they want or think. At least not on their dime. Which is understandable. In other sports and industries, there exists a separation between investor and inventor/innovator. The people paying to make something happen, and the people making it happen. Not in pool. Those with some money obviously don't have what it takes, and they show no interest in hiring those that do have what it takes.


It can be done. I may be pessimistic about most things, but I still believe it can be done.

Pool is very attractive, but it is made ugly or it is veiled. Pool is a super model with a burka on. People don't know what they're missing. If "old school" games like golf and others can survive in the modern age, so too can pool. It can prosper.


If I were a billionaire, I would hire people who have a proven track record of reviving things and promoting things or making the unknown successful and put them to the task of working on pool. See what they come up with.


Step 1 is figuring out the problem. I think I got a handle on that. Described it in many posts here on AZB over the years. Step 2 is developing a strategy. That's the big question.

You see pool as it is, not as what you or we would like it to be. Sobering, yet refreshing thoughts. Thanks for sharing your perspectives.
 
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