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The extreme example to prove this is the one I offered early on in this thread, having 100 doors instead of 3 doors, and Monty, with his knowledge of which door contains the car, opens 98 other doors with the goat behind all of them. leaving only your door and one other door. Do you still think you have a 50-50 chance at this point? You actually have a 1 in 100 chance. Anyone that can’t understand this is just plain stubborn, ignorant or both.

That's a really good explanation.
 
If we follow the $, I think Monte did better than the contestants looking at the big picture.

Fatboy<——-still wants a goat
I'll get you a goat for your birthday...but you've gotta feed and house it...

Jaden
 
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December 29 😍
My legal anniversary, but we celebrate it on our church wedding day, so I'll be able to bring it...lol. I hope you don't think I'm joking...

Jaden

p.s. maybe it'll be one of the fainting goats, they're fun at parties...
 
My legal anniversary, but we celebrate it on our church wedding day, so I'll be able to bring it...lol. I hope you don't think I'm joking...

Jaden

p.s. maybe it'll be one of the fainting goats, they're fun at parties...
I love goats. Had them when I was a kid living in NorCal. I’d have had some in Vegas at my house but my back was so bad I couldn’t have enjoyed them at that time. If I had stayed there, for sure I’d have got a couple. Also some long horn bulls from Texas to look at. I’m not into horses, I had pool tables stored in my horse stables. Jay and my inventory. Lol
 
Yes, I was wrong.
Thank you for playing. I do think though that you only erred in thinking 50/50 would play out in the LMAD scenario.

After all the arithmetic coming up the same, I settled at 50/50 guess and N to the billionth unknown because in a real event, Monty would be trying to win.

Still under the weather. Carry on...
 
The extreme example to prove this is the one I offered early on in this thread, having 100 doors instead of 3 doors, and Monty, with his knowledge of which door contains the car, opens 98 other doors with the goat behind all of them. leaving only your door and one other door. Do you still think you have a 50-50 chance at this point? You actually have a 1 in 100 chance. Anyone that can’t understand this is just plain stubborn, ignorant or both.
That was part of the point, you don’t need an extreme example , or a PHD, or 27 pages. Just do it! My 6 and 7 year old grandsons figured this out in five minutes! Just get the eff out of your own way, be open minded.
 
That was part of the point, you don’t need an extreme example , or a PHD, or 27 pages. Just do it! My 6 and 7 year old grandsons figured this out in five minutes! Just get the eff out of your own way, be open minded.
That’s why kids can get good at chess and old people are drawing stone dead in chess.
 
Thank you for playing. I do think though that you only erred in thinking 50/50 would play out in the LMAD scenario.

After all the arithmetic coming up the same, I settled at 50/50 guess and N to the billionth unknown because in a real event, Monty would be trying to win.

Still under the weather. Carry on...

Lol. Still making up shit so you can think you weren’t completely wrong eh?
 
Someone mentioned the Monty Hall problem is similar to the Deal or no Deal contestant who had two cases one with the dollar and one with 1 million. He was offered $416,000 he said no deal and did not change his case. He won one dollar. I did some research and found the answer of whether he should have switched or not. I won’t spoil it in this post but what say you?

Different scenario as the cases are eliminated at random.

Which means there is no additional information the player receives from the banker.

I don’t believe the banker knows the value of each case and therefore is using a % of the expected value remaining. I.E. the bank will almost always offer you less than the expected value.



The real question is should he have taken the $416k deal. And that depends on financial situation of the contestant.


Now, some will attempt to say his case is a 1/26 and the swapped case is 25/26. Which is incorrect unless I missed something.

I haven’t had any time to think about it, but at this point in the game, if we assume he’s not going to take the deal, it’s a true 50/50 as all the case eliminated were done so at random without providing anymore information to the player.

Which is completely different from Monty Hall which he knows what’s behind the doors.
 
For those interested in reading about how a gambler dispute lead to the birth of mathematical probability , check out The Unfinished Game by Keith Devlin.

What is interesting is to see how, starting in 1654, two math geniuses, Blaise Pascal and Pierre de Fermat, wrestle with ideas that we take for granted as “obvious” today … They were essentially the inventors of the ideas that make it obvious.

That’s the Age of Enlightenment for you.
Two other books worth reading are The Lady Tasting Tea by David Salsburg and Against the Gods by Peter Bernstein. The first is about the development of modern statistics, and the second is about how the understanding of probabilities allowed for the development of insurance markets.
 
Two other books worth reading are The Lady Tasting Tea by David Salsburg and Against the Gods by Peter Bernstein. The first is about the development of modern statistics, and the second is about how the understanding of probabilities allowed for the development of insurance markets.

A pretty cool one is also “The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King.”

Andy Beal, billionaire banker and mathematician, takes on an entire stable of the best poker players at the time (Brunson, Forrest, Reese, etc) heads up. Different players each time.

He knows he’s not as good as them, but uses things like a timer in his shoe he can feel. So he never makes a decision in more or less time and they can get a read on him,

He beats them out of about 10 million. They had to get more money and get Phil Ivey to play.

Beal ends up about a 6 million loser. But the impressive part is how he was able to essentially break them via analyzing the odds and his weaknesses, which he counteracted with things to now allow them to exploit him.

And it took basically the best poker player in history to save their ass.
 
Lol….no.

That only works if he does *NOT* know what’s behind the doors.

The “conditional” part of the conditional probability is that he *knows* what’s behind the doors.
Not sure if this was addressed, but what is the probability the doors swing inward and the car is so big that the door cannot open enough to see what is inside?
 
Sorry, with two doors left it's 50-50 whether you stick with door #1 or switch to door #2. At this point there are only two doors left. Door #3 is now out of the equation and it's a new deal so to speak. She may be smart but she's not a gambler. If someone wants to lay me 6-5 we can bet on this all day long, and they get to pick which door they want. I would bust Marilyn Vos Savant at this game!
Yes. The odds only work the way some are assuming if the cars and goats get randomly moved after the first door is opened. That's not the case.

You have a 1 in 3 chance when you first choose. No amount of theatrics about how the doors are opened changes that.

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Much smoke and mirrors. Just put two cards face down, one winner one loser. I get to pick. 50/50

Him got scared. 😆

Going back to read the rest of the thread but just had to laugh at how stubborn you are.

Reading on I hope to see that you’re a person of conviction and you put your money where your mouth is. 👌🏻
 
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