Team USA obviously has a long way to go to be seriously competitive again. But I think the corner was turned this year. Maybe I am speaking too soon as the Cup is not yet over but I think we will improve from this years excursion into next years event and guess what, it's over here. And that will be a plus.
I'll Say What Many Are Already Thinking - Mosconi Cup, 2014
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runouteasy
Banned
In a longer race Europe would only win more. We are getting spanked with race to 5 alternating break. When they keep screwing up easy kicks, positions plays and pocketing they have nobody to blame but themselves. I don't think the USAS players think they should be winning or are getting rolled on.
If they put in a couple other Americans this could have been different, but the smart money has know this for many many months.
I think they should be better at lags and playing partners than what we have seen. It tells me there wasn't enough practice and preparation. Schmidt in particular has been atrocious.
runouteasy
Banned
Exactly, smart man. With alternating break there is little excuse, it keeps the sets close if you are playing well. USA is losing these sets on their own, could be race to 3 to 13 it just wouldn't matter.
You are correct, as I am told by those who understand the math better than I do. This seems counterintuitive to me, but there's no arguing with the math. I think I respect the Mosconi Cup format a little more now.
No one other than Shane
In the hole Team USA has dug for themselves, there is no one other than Shane I'd rather see up first trying to keep our chances alive.
Regardless of how his Mosconi Cup performance(s) has gone, he's proven his mettle so many times in such convincing ways in his career, I'm optimistic and hopeful over this first match.
Darren won't make it easy, Shane can do it!
Go USA! :yeah:
best,
brian kc
In the hole Team USA has dug for themselves, there is no one other than Shane I'd rather see up first trying to keep our chances alive.
Regardless of how his Mosconi Cup performance(s) has gone, he's proven his mettle so many times in such convincing ways in his career, I'm optimistic and hopeful over this first match.
Darren won't make it easy, Shane can do it!
Go USA! :yeah:
best,
brian kc
Actually what I was THINKING....
ACtually that wasn't what I was thinking at all.
I was thinking more along the lines of, damn this table is taking WAY too many shots that should be missed....
AND....
This race to 5 shit is barely acceptable to me when it's a weekly tournament with mostly bangers, here it's crazy...
AND....
Damn, Europe is getting an uncharacteristic number of rolls in their favor...
Yeah, so those were the things I WAS thinking...
I can't really say what other people were thinking...
Jaden
ACtually that wasn't what I was thinking at all.
I was thinking more along the lines of, damn this table is taking WAY too many shots that should be missed....
AND....
This race to 5 shit is barely acceptable to me when it's a weekly tournament with mostly bangers, here it's crazy...
AND....
Damn, Europe is getting an uncharacteristic number of rolls in their favor...
Yeah, so those were the things I WAS thinking...
I can't really say what other people were thinking...
Jaden
no it's NOT correct...
It WOULD be correct if pool players were machines... They are not.
They are living breathing people with emotions.
Jaden
It WOULD be correct if pool players were machines... They are not.
They are living breathing people with emotions.
Jaden
regarding blue text #1, I have watched almost all of the matches played and can't say I've seen any notable lopsidedness for either team on good or bad rolls.
I did see Niels luck in a 9b yesterday but, again, on the whole, I've seen no big difference.
As for blue text #2, I don't claim to be telepathic. I know what a lot of people are thinking through talking with them. Wasn't entering their minds and thoughts without their knowledge. :wink:
best,
brian kc
no...
Buttered scones would go better with the jelly..
I prefer toast with peanut butter and honey...
Jaden
maybe team usa should serve jelly to the Europe team just before start time!
Buttered scones would go better with the jelly..
I prefer toast with peanut butter and honey...
Jaden
What I am thinking, is that it is not over, not until the last ball of this event is made.
The Fat Lady may be trying to warm up but I know that the entire USA Mosconi Cup Team is focusing on helping her to come down with a bad case of laryngitis.
GO USA! NEVER, EVER, GIVE UP!
JoeyA
The Fat Lady may be trying to warm up but I know that the entire USA Mosconi Cup Team is focusing on helping her to come down with a bad case of laryngitis.
GO USA! NEVER, EVER, GIVE UP!
JoeyA
Man, nothing else needed to be said after this post really. No knock on the American pros or captain, who I have no doubt are fighting and trying their asses off. But until the United States gets a true structure that develops and promotes professional pool, it's gonna basically be like a rec league basketball team going up against the San Antonio Spurs. Pool is simply taken more seriously as a sport in Europe.
Well said, Joey ... GO USA!
Lol....
You say it's not a dig on them and then say they're like amateurs going up against pros...this is laughable.
Change it to a race to eleven each match, winner breaks and let's see how it turns out...or maybe not have a country go against a continent???Or don't allow any Europeans on team Europe that spend more time competing in America than in Europe???
Jaden
You say it's not a dig on them and then say they're like amateurs going up against pros...this is laughable.
Change it to a race to eleven each match, winner breaks and let's see how it turns out...or maybe not have a country go against a continent???Or don't allow any Europeans on team Europe that spend more time competing in America than in Europe???
Jaden
Pool and Golf
Could never disagree with this! It has been tough to watch.
Along with the Ryder Cup of golf, Team USA is really just
choking lately. This is a matter of getting our asses handed
to us. Then the powers that be want to set up a "task force"
for the golfers. WTF? How about winning? How about
executing the shot when it matters most? I also think it is
becoming painfully obvious that we lack heart and the desire
to win. I don't see any fire. When Earl misses a shot it is
the end of the world. I saw Corey twitching on his backstroke,
rattled the ball and pretty much just shrugged his shoulders.
We need to turn this around! Let's get fired up! :grin-devilish:
Could never disagree with this! It has been tough to watch.
Along with the Ryder Cup of golf, Team USA is really just
choking lately. This is a matter of getting our asses handed
to us. Then the powers that be want to set up a "task force"
for the golfers. WTF? How about winning? How about
executing the shot when it matters most? I also think it is
becoming painfully obvious that we lack heart and the desire
to win. I don't see any fire. When Earl misses a shot it is
the end of the world. I saw Corey twitching on his backstroke,
rattled the ball and pretty much just shrugged his shoulders.
We need to turn this around! Let's get fired up! :grin-devilish:
Well
On their worst day any one of them can easily beat me. They are all very good players. I really give thanks to Mark Wilson and his team for stepping up and putting it on the line. Team USA is showing lots of class wining and loosing. Team Europe fans need to keep the noise down. All professional player 9 Ball races should be a race to 13, would give all of us a better look at skill levels. Our country is not playing another country, they are playing against a pool of talent drawn from several European countries. I am enjoying watching all the good and bad that comes from playing 9 Ball.
On their worst day any one of them can easily beat me. They are all very good players. I really give thanks to Mark Wilson and his team for stepping up and putting it on the line. Team USA is showing lots of class wining and loosing. Team Europe fans need to keep the noise down. All professional player 9 Ball races should be a race to 13, would give all of us a better look at skill levels. Our country is not playing another country, they are playing against a pool of talent drawn from several European countries. I am enjoying watching all the good and bad that comes from playing 9 Ball.
runouteasy
Banned
You mean that tough 7 inch shot into the side 2 days back. That was from lack of focus. He was right in front of the hole. There are players here that would never miss that shot.
I think today the mood is gonna be very subdued. Even Schmitty will keep it quiet. They are looking for the exit from this nightmare.
nice post and thanks.
it's an enjoyable image for me that your "clubs" have many guys watching mosconi cup action and hoping to see great play from both teams.
It's an odd situation here in the USA how there can be so many people playing in our pool leagues and the vast majority of them know nothing of Mosconi Cup.
The structure and seriousness with which Europeans take this sport is admirable. I got to experience a couple of your pool clubs when I was stationed in Wiesbaden in the late 1970's.
Cheers to all fellow enthusiasts overseas.
Will Shane start us back on the uphill climb to a USA win?
We'll know in about an hour from now.
Go USA!!
best,
brian kc
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nice post and thanks.
it's an enjoyable image for me that your "clubs" have many guys watching mosconi cup action and hoping to see great play from both teams.
It's an odd situation here in the USA how there can be so many people playing in our pool leagues and the vast majority of them no nothing of Mosconi Cup.
The structure and seriousness with which Europeans take this sport is admirable. I got to experience a couple of your pool clubs when I was stationed Weisbaden in the late 1970's.
Cheers to all fellow enthusiasts overseas.
Will Shane start us back on the uphill climb to a USA win?
We'll know in about an hour from now.
Go USA!!
best,
brian kc
Our leagues operators and retailers should advertise the MC heavily to the players and room owners. It's crazy that most room owners and league members are so uneducated when it comes to American pros and events. This makes absolutely zero sense and they are failing the game in terms of promotion . In my opinion that's not the fault of our pros or game itself. They need to put up posters and keep the pool magazines laying around for easy access