I'm in love with extreme stroke shots

As a beginner I really like watching shots like those in the video.

The force-follow shot is the most difficult for me; much more so than draw shots. It seems like to get a force-follow effect I have to hit the CB way too hard and lose control of striking the OB correctly. For some reason I can hit a draw shot hard and maintain my aim, but a follow is unreliable when the OB is more than 12-18" from the pocket.

More practice, I guess.
 
bdorman said:
As a beginner I really like watching shots like those in the video.

The force-follow shot is the most difficult for me; much more so than draw shots. It seems like to get a force-follow effect I have to hit the CB way too hard and lose control of striking the OB correctly. For some reason I can hit a draw shot hard and maintain my aim, but a follow is unreliable when the OB is more than 12-18" from the pocket.

More practice, I guess.
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It's easy to say and difficult to do, but work on your timing. You don't need to hit the ball as hard as he does in the video to move the CB like he does.
 
TheThaiger said:
Hmmm. Great pool players, obviously, but you don't NEED to be a great cueist to be a great pool player. Snooker players NEED to be great cueists.

So,

Q1. Why do the greatest cueists play with an open bridge?

A1. Because open bridges allow great cueing.

Q2. Why do Americans advocate closed bridges?

A2. For cultural and historic reasons.
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1. I believe that to be considered a "great" player you should be a great cueist.
And your Q&A is based on the assumption that you are right. IMO you are not.

Explain to me how an open bridge allows for better cueing. Both bridges serve a purpose. In my experience it's never completely one or the other.

And enough with the blanket statements. Do you really think that all Americans do things the same way? That's like saying all brits are cool people.:rolleyes:
 
Since you asked...

The function of the bridge is to serve as a stable guide for the front of the cue. The bridge should be comfortable and stable, allowing free movement of the cue, along your natural range of motion.

1. An open hand bridge allows unrestricted sighting down the cue.

2. A closed hand bridge can help in minimizing excessive movement of the cue.

As long as the shot can be sighted accurately, and a stable guide is provided for the cue, the bridge is good. Most professional players use both open and closed bridges (among others).

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

TheThaiger said:
Explain, please?
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Cdryden said:
1. I believe that to be considered a "great" player you should be a great cueist.
And your Q&A is based on the assumption that you are right. IMO you are not.

Explain to me how an open bridge allows for better cueing. Both bridges serve a purpose. In my experience it's never completely one or the other.

And enough with the blanket statements. Do you really think that all Americans do things the same way? That's like saying all brits are cool people.:rolleyes:
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That's certainly not true lol.

I'm not saying ALL Americans used a closed bridge. I'm saying no snooker player uses a closed bridge, and given it's the most difficult cue sport to master, there must be a reason for this. If that reason is cultural and historic, that's fine by me, too.

But I don't believe people should have a default position of 'look how hard he's hitting it - without a closed bridge too!'
 
TheThaiger said:
That's certainly not true lol.

I'm not saying ALL Americans used a closed bridge. I'm saying no snooker player uses a closed bridge, and given it's the most difficult cue sport to master, there must be a reason for this. If that reason is cultural and historic, that's fine by me, too.

But I don't believe people should have a default position of 'look how hard he's hitting it - without a closed bridge too!'
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Again, your opinion, not fact.


And you know exactly what I mean by blanket statements, your intentions are obvious.
 
TheThaiger said:
..... I'm saying no snooker player uses a closed bridge, and given it's the most difficult cue sport to master...
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No that is not a "given" IMHO 3CB is the most difficult to master, as a great player once said to me "pool is elementary school, snooker is high school and billiards is college"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhyCFH7tqSo

I think (not absolutely sure) that this guy holds the world record (or is tied for it) in 3CB; notice he has a closed bridge. Open bridges serve a purpose so do closed.

As you say:

TheThaiger said:
If that reason is cultural and historic, that's fine by me, too.
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And it is; snooker has the advantage of having a much more "formal school" of "the way things are done" than pool, that's why so many are so good. It isn't because "that's a better way to do it". You have been misinformed and that is more dangerous than being uninformed. Scott Lee put it very well.

Scott Lee said:
Since you asked...

The function of the bridge is to serve as a stable guide for the front of the cue. The bridge should be comfortable and stable, allowing free movement of the cue, along your natural range of motion.

1. An open hand bridge allows unrestricted sighting down the cue.

2. A closed hand bridge can help in minimizing excessive movement of the cue.

As long as the shot can be sighted accurately, and a stable guide is provided for the cue, the bridge is good. Most professional players use both open and closed bridges (among others).

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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