Inergrity, fairness, sportsmanship, etc., Is it worthed?????

Respect Yourself!

You have to be true to yourself! Would you want to be like some butthead that wants to cheat to win? I'd rather be buried to my neck at low tide facing the sea than win by cheating.. Just the other day I was playing BCA league, I fouled and the other player was not paying attention so I picked up the cue ball and handed it to my opponent.. No big deal at all to me, if you have to cheat to win you will never be a winner...
JMO!!!
Dan
 
Quesports said:
You have to be true to yourself! Would you want to be like some butthead that wants to cheat to win? I'd rather be buried to my neck at low tide facing the sea than win by cheating.. Just the other day I was playing BCA league, I fouled and the other player was not paying attention so I picked up the cue ball and handed it to my opponent.. No big deal at all to me, if you have to cheat to win you will never be a winner...
JMO!!!
Dan
Click to expand...
Thank you, very well said. For once, it seems allright to be a minority. It is tough though.
 
Last edited:
poolmaster said:
I understand what you're saying, but sometimes I feel like I'm getting pulled apart. I've
stayed to my true self so far(I'm 40 now). I hate to admit, but most of people will take
your goodness as a weakness, it suckssss. I feel like I'm at the crossroad. To make a
long story short, I'm tired of being nice, even though it's against my nature.
Click to expand...

i feel the same way.
i tried to be a jack off well it lasted a few days then i felt like crap.
so just stay the way you are.
 
I've thought about this before as well and the conclusion I came up with is that I would rather be good and get burned than to change who I am and come out better.

One sport in which this really burned me was powerlifting. I had the genetic ability and drive to not only beat anyone in weight class, but also come in the top 3-5 overall in any bench press competition. The problem was that the top 2 in that weight class were steroid users. I decided to bump up to 225lb weight class, but dealt with the same.

I wanted to win so bad I almost did it, but what stuck in my mind was that if I did do steroids it wouldn't be just me winning. I never did win one in adult competition (I did win several in high school against people several years older and much heavier than me), but what I did do was stay true to myself. There aren't too many people out there that can say they weighed in at 225lbs and benched over 500lbs without ever using steroids. In that case I won without a trophy and I know that I won which is all that matters to me.
 
gunzby said:
There aren't too many people out there that can say they weighed in at 225lbs and benched over 500lbs without ever using steroids. In that case I won without a trophy and I know that I won which is all that matters to me.
Click to expand...

I know who I'm gettin' behind when a fight breaks out in the poolhall ;)!!!

Maniac
 
Maniac said:
I know who I'm gettin' behind when a fight breaks out in the poolhall ;)!!!

Maniac
Click to expand...

I actually quit working out several years ago and lost all the weight. I went from 230lbs to 180lbs, but I am still pretty strong surprisingly. I quit because pain killers and prednisone can only do so much to deal with the aches and pains I had. When I did the decline bench press I had enough weight on there where I could actually feel my collar bone bend.

I remember one guy telling me, "you know why I like going out to bars with you?" and I asked why...he said, "because I can do whatever I feel like doing and nobody is going to say a damn thing because you are with me." I explained to him that if he runs his mouth he is on his own.

*edit* Oh yea and any time a fight broke out in the pool hall around me I got the hell out unless someone was getting ganged up on, jumped or it was someone I knew who didn't do anything wrong. I've seen enough people grab balls off the tables and start hurling em to know that I don't wanna get hit by one.
 
i sleep soundly at night......i like the fellow in the mirror when I shave.....My friends and associates respect my integrity and moral ethics...and I am not about to sacrifice any of that by becomming just another low life lookin to get up on someone. Most times being taken advantage of is the result of impulsive action, or thoughtless reaction. Protect yourself by becomming sceptical and questioning....not by becomming just another sewer rat.....
 
gunzby said:
I've thought about this before as well and the conclusion I came up with is that I would rather be good and get burned than to change who I am and come out better.

One sport in which this really burned me was powerlifting. I had the genetic ability and drive to not only beat anyone in weight class, but also come in the top 3-5 overall in any bench press competition. The problem was that the top 2 in that weight class were steroid users. I decided to bump up to 225lb weight class, but dealt with the same.

I wanted to win so bad I almost did it, but what stuck in my mind was that if I did do steroids it wouldn't be just me winning. I never did win one in adult competition (I did win several in high school against people several years older and much heavier than me), but what I did do was stay true to myself. There aren't too many people out there that can say they weighed in at 225lbs and benched over 500lbs without ever using steroids. In that case I won without a trophy and I know that I won which is all that matters to me.
Click to expand...
I hear you man. So far I've been just like you, but sometimes it's really hard. I'll do my
best.
 
poolmaster said:
I hear you man. So far I've been just like you, but sometimes it's really hard. I'll do my
best.
Click to expand...

It's never easy, but sometimes you have to think about what is most important. Is it winning, or is it winning your way?
 
poolmaster said:
I agree with you 110%..
Click to expand...

That is why I never used steroids. That decision probably cost me a lot of money as I was able to be compete at a top 5 level against people who were using steroids. If I juiced people told me over and over again that I would have easily been taking national championships.

Winning at a level like that and the money that could come with it is very very enticing. Knowing that I didn't do it fairly even though the people I was competing against were doing it to wasn't enough because I would know what I did.

On another note I just realized that I seem to love being part of sports that don't pay the millions you see in baseball, basketball or football.
 
gunzby said:
That is why I never used steroids. That decision probably cost me a lot of money as I was able to be compete at a top 5 level against people who were using steroids. If I juiced people told me over and over again that I would have easily been taking national championships.

Winning at a level like that and the money that could come with it is very very enticing. Knowing that I didn't do it fairly even though the people I was competing against were doing it to wasn't enough because I would know what I did.

On another note I just realized that I seem to love being part of sports that don't pay the millions you see in baseball, basketball or football.
Click to expand...
I chose to play pool, because I'm good in it, not for money. On the other hand, it would
be nice for pool , if it paid more. Maybe one day, and if not, it doesn't matter to me.
 
"Deteriorata" -

Go placidly amid the noise and waste,
And remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Avoid quiet and passive persons, unless you are in need of sleep.
Rotate your tires.
Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself,
And heed well their advice, even though they be turkeys.
Know what to kiss, and when.
Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three do.
Wherever possible, put people on hold.
Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment,
and despite the changing fortunes of time,
There is always a big future in computer maintenance.

Remember The Pueblo.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate.
Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI.
Exercise caution in your daily affairs,
Especially with those persons closest to you -
That lemon on your left, for instance.
Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls
Would scarcely get your feet wet.
Fall not in love therefore. It will stick to your face.
Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan.
And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.
Hire people with hooks.
For a good time, call 606-4311. Ask for Ken.
Take heart in the bedeepening gloom
That your dog is finally getting enough cheese.
And reflect that whatever fortune may be your lot,
It could only be worse in Milwaukee.

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

Therefore, make peace with your god,
Whatever you perceive him to be - hairy thunderer, or cosmic muffin.
With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal,
The world continues to deteriorate.
Give up!

:grin-square::grin-square:
 
stand strong

You can do the right thing without letting people walk all over you.Standing up for yourself doesn't make you an a-hole.

One of the best things about pool and the pool world is it forces us all to grow up a little and learn to play nice.
 
Quesports said:
You have to be true to yourself! Would you want to be like some butthead that wants to cheat to win? I'd rather be buried to my neck at low tide facing the sea than win by cheating.. Just the other day I was playing BCA league, I fouled and the other player was not paying attention so I picked up the cue ball and handed it to my opponent.. No big deal at all to me, if you have to cheat to win you will never be a winner...
JMO!!!
Dan
Click to expand...

I've done this same thing myself in league and noticed no one was paying attention. I then stood up and went through a mini forum discussion in my head. Should I give it to him despite the fact he's been an @ss in the past? Does he even deserve it for that reason? Wait, since when is it my responsibility to keep track of something that he should be keeping track of?
 
Perhaps, it should be an another thread, but I'll say it here. It seems, I
lack of a killer instict. I don't do it everytime, but I keep on doing it, and
it costs me. I don't know how to explain this, but I try not to be easy on
my opponent,but at the end I end up doing it, especially if he's a lesser
player. Maybe I need somebody to smack me in the head. I know, that
with that attitude, it will prevent me from succeeding. I guess, I have to
let go my bad habits, and learn new ones. Does anyone has a similar
problem?:confused:
 
Another fellow said,"Do not go gentle into that good night, rage, rage against the dieing of the light." Dylan Thomas
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top