Info on old cue

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Lilbitfurthur

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Hello, I am hoping do gain some insight as to this old cue of mine. It was given to me by my grandpa, he had a small pinball/billiard place in Texas in the 70's. I slammed it in my car door about 30 years ago and it was damaged at the joint.
Would like to know the approximate year it was made and and info on the unusual shaft. What would be the appropriate wrap material also as i would like to fix that.
Thanks!!
 

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Cuebuddy said:
Yes! A few things on this old girl, don't follow the norm.
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Your bailiwick but that cue looks like it has had a lot done to it since it left the factory. The wrap I don't think is a wrap, the joint doesn't look factory either. It has 19 stamped into the wood, all things considered I think this was a one piece somebody has worked on. That shaft looks odd too.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
Your bailiwick but that cue looks like it has had a lot done to it since it left the factory. The wrap I don't think is a wrap, the joint doesn't look factory either. It has 19 stamped into the wood, all things considered I think this was a one piece somebody has worked on. That shaft looks odd too.

Hu
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Shaft looks like it was a butt. However it is definitely a one-of-kind.
 
ShootingArts said:
Your bailiwick but that cue looks like it has had a lot done to it since it left the factory. The wrap I don't think is a wrap, the joint doesn't look factory either. It has 19 stamped into the wood, all things considered I think this was a one piece somebody has worked on. That shaft looks odd too.

Hu
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Rosewood spliced shafts were common back in the day.
But spliced into Birdseye not so much.
Joint looks odd but the wrap seems genuine.
I have a few vintage cues of this era and the wraps are coming undone. I love leaving them alone.
 
ShootingArts said:
Your bailiwick but that cue looks like it has had a lot done to it since it left the factory. The wrap I don't think is a wrap, the joint doesn't look factory either. It has 19 stamped into the wood, all things considered I think this was a one piece somebody has worked on. That shaft looks odd too.

Hu
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I did the wrap a long time ago , its hemp. I can't remember what was on before, but possibly Irish linen ...
I broke the original joint , on the butt side I think , and it was repaired so thats what you see...
Thanks for your input!
 
Chopdoc said:
Looks basically original to me.

Some Birdseye in the maple is just dumb luck, like some have some tiger striping. It's not an outstanding piece of Birdseye.

The shaft splices were common.

Joint looks OEM to I didn't realize the spliced shafts were common but nice to know. It was the only thing my grandpa kept from that time in his life so it was special at least to him. It's still quite straight. I weighed it and surprisingly its 20 0z, 5 in shaft alone, very front heavy but does indeed feel ' light'.
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Thank you for response 👍
 
Chopdoc said:
Looks basically original to me.

Some Birdseye in the maple is just dumb luck, like some have some tiger striping. It's not an outstanding piece of Birdseye.

The shaft splices were common.

Joint looks OEM to me.
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The joint was an early red flag for me. Why have a piloted joint and the other construction gives the joint no room to self align. The thread of the wrap looks oversized and soft. It doesn't look like it has ever been ironed. The wood looks like it has been turned the wrong direction from an original build.

The weight stamped into the wood seems odd for a nice cue, and the weight seems like it doesn't fit the stick. Nineteen ounces isn't likely to be perceived as light by most people.

It looks like something that was put together to give a grandson to play with. Nothing wrong with that but it reminds me of some experiments of mine that never met the light of day!

If the cue plays fine I would play with it, if not it gets a place of honor in the rack. It will never be a collectors item but may have a lot of personal value.

Hu
 
Your right on all that ShootingArts, and I didn't expect to have a collectors item , but it stick is an oddball that I wanted info on. The joint was repaired after I broke it , so at least half of joint isnt original. The hemp string i put on after the original fell off. I did play with this cue 30 years ago and its decent. Weights 20 0z but is super front heavy so I guess it ' feels' light to me. Ill probably fix the wrap when I figure that out and yes, back to being a display piece it will go. 🙂
 
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