There's not a snooker player in the top 1000 in the world who is capable of shots like this:
https://youtu.be/7Xc1IKUJUXg?t=8m53s
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There's not a snooker player in the top 1000 in the world who is capable of shots like this:
https://youtu.be/7Xc1IKUJUXg?t=8m53s
Your bravery, is exceeded only by your obnoxious, ongoing attempts, to prove yourself right !..I hate to play the age card on you..but there are MANY who know for a fact, that it was not too awful long ago, that in a 40-50 hour 'marathon session', I would have had you begging for mercy
Twenty hours (on the natural) was just a warm up, for me !..Now I am happy if I can go 3-4 hours, without a long nap !
.. BTW, did you ever notice that even a loudmouth like Ali, had the decency, NOT to challenge Joe Louis to a fight ?...My only regret is that I won't be around to laugh at you, when you reach your 'golden years'! (but I'm hoping you do) 
PS..After a few days, of playing ANY game that requires one to think, you would forget whether you were using TOI, TOO, or 'Tai Kwan Do', and you would only want it to mercifully be over! :boring2: :boring2: :boring2: :groucho:
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CJ Wiley;5195904I love to play and would enjoy playing a 20+ hour set using the TOI as much as possible. This would be fun for everyone involved said:Or to watch a "spinners" stroke unravel after 8 or 10 hours & start going long or coming up short.
It's "flawed thinking" to use the English needed for position?
I guess if your only tool is a hammer...
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Lol.
Actually, that very shot is the one i struggle most with when using inside, especially hard and wih stun. It just seems unnatural, and i, too, find i move on the shot. CJ is in good company. Still won't be bothering with that TOI guff, though.
He played (poked) that shot with a touch of draw and outside english. A bit like a standard black off the spot in snooker, but I've never seen a pro miss the jaw before, not too mention with US size pockets. I can see why he prefers TOI over TOO. LOL
My game has changed quite a bit since I moved to the inside of the cue ball. I try not to over spin shots with outside and use a lot less of it on most shots. I learned to play with outside and only used inside as running english, sparingly.
I use inside and outside to compensate for the CIT more than anything. If I'm relying on outside to throw balls in all the time, I understand I'm going to be off some nights and doggin' shots.
I like to double the corners with inside on some shots instead of outside or center cue ball. I can come straighter up the table and avoid congestion. It gives me new routes for position I couldn't get using center or outside.
Best,
Mike
I use inside and outside to compensate for the CIT more than anything. If I'm relying on outside to throw balls in all the time, I understand I'm going to be off some nights and doggin' shots.
I like to double the corners with inside on some shots instead of outside or center cue ball. I can come straighter up the table and avoid congestion. It gives me new routes for position I couldn't get using center or outside.
Best,
Mike
If you plan on hitting the rail first, would that still be considered technically "inside" english? If you view the shot as a micro-kick, then the inside actually turns into outside.
Remove the rails and there is no way I would shoot any of those shots with inside.
Does it really matter ?..A good solid pool player, (at least every one I've ever known) uses whatever ya gotta use, to get where you're tryin' to go !..When has it EVER been any different ?
If there is more than one way to get position most players will use what they feel most confident in.
The faster rubbing surfaces tends to decrease the coefficient of friction, but that doesn't necessarily equate to a decrease in overall throw. If the coefficient of friction doesn't decrease by the same factor as the amount the relative surface speed increases, then the overall throw still increases.
I find I only use inside english under three circumstances:
1) to kill the CB's momentum off a rail
2) when the cut angle is such that inside is actually going to be running english and I need the running english for position.
3) too shorten up the angle of the CB on a kick shot where a ball is blocking the natural path to the OB.
I like what inside does when pocketing an OB on the rail, but too often it means coming closer to scratching than I'm comfortable with.
1) to kill the CB's momentum off a rail
2) when the cut angle is such that inside is actually going to be running english and I need the running english for position.
3) too shorten up the angle of the CB on a kick shot where a ball is blocking the natural path to the OB.
I like what inside does when pocketing an OB on the rail, but too often it means coming closer to scratching than I'm comfortable with.
If you play heavy inside english on these straightish shots along or near to a rail, it will hit short of the center pocket always, unless the rails are very slippery, and hence play long off the second rail.
The scratches usually occur when too little inside english is applied on these shots.
Thanks, I'll give it a try. The set-up I'm thinking of is OB on the long rail inside of two diamonds from the pocket and CB about center table. It seems like if I get too aggressive with high-inside I risk scratching in the opposite corner pocket. Consider that this is a beginner's perspective, and like so many other aspects of the game...I'm likely wrong.
This "Master Shot" gets incredibly fine-tuned because you use it primarily
Yes, when I'm using the same type shot time after time after time and they're using "whatever the table tells them"......they will certainly become unraveled after 8-10 hours.
I've seen this happen many, many times.
Using different spins, speeds and judgments (as a result) is very difficult to do, yet this is how the game is typically played.
No wonder players get to a certain level and can't progress, the type of game they are attempting is simply too difficult. Pool is a challenging game, however, when you master one type of shot and STICK TO IT, the game opens up and gets easier.
This "Master Shot" gets incredibly fine-tuned because you use it primarily and can depend on it under any circumstances or pressure situations.
Or to watch a "spinners" stroke unravel after 8 or 10 hours & start going long or coming up short.
Yes, when I'm using the same type shot time after time after time and they're using "whatever the table tells them"......they will certainly become unraveled after 8-10 hours.
I've seen this happen many, many times.
Using different spins, speeds and judgments (as a result) is very difficult to do, yet this is how the game is typically played.
No wonder players get to a certain level and can't progress, the type of game they are attempting is simply too difficult. Pool is a challenging game, however, when you master one type of shot and STICK TO IT, the game opens up and gets easier.
This "Master Shot" gets incredibly fine-tuned because you use it primarily and can depend on it under any circumstances or pressure situations.
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I've always had the opposite experience - the longer i play, the more tuned in i become. Maybe the projecting only works for those that buy into your fluff.
Two questions for you Mike.
1. When did you change your avatar to a picture of Ron Swanson?
2. Am I the first to make this hilarious observation?
I doubt if you've ever played a top player for 20+ hours.
What's the longest you've played straight CJ?
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You didn't say that above, did you? I mean, it's all good and expected if you want to change your story, though. Since most don't play top players for 20+ hours, did you even have a point?
I haven't played top players for that long. I've played some decent players for 8-10 hours, though - as strong or stronger than myself. I do alright.
If you're going to pretend you aren't absolutely full of it, try to not change up the matter on your very first reply. Blah blah blah teacher.