Interesting cue on ebay

Cool cue. I have no idea what it's worth but I am curious about the appraiser when it comes to a cue with " celebrity pedigree ". Sure there are plenty that can accurately appraise a cue based solely on what type of cue, condition, etc. Heck we have a bunch here on AZ that are very good with that. Just curious though what they would use as comps or is it totally subjective?
 
By the big M logo, I don't buy the story along with the cue at all. Dates it about 1993 at the earliest. Don't doubt he owned the cue, just doubt it was used the way they say.
 
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Well the cue retailed for $233 brand new.

Now the Ebay seller is a good seller, but I don't think the cue is worth that much.


I can make up certificates of cues I played with...but it doesn't make them worth any more.




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I love the "appraisal". Who appraised it? LOL!


I like cues associated with great players if they actually used them or perhaps made them. Truth is great players are given many cues. Mizerak, for instance, was given numerous cues that he never actually played with.
 
red did have a another meucci and he did give it to his nephew, sean. that was in the early 90's when he and family had moved to eastern ky. his playing cue I saw in use was a heubler sneaky pete. he had other cues I know. one was made by azb's sherm and was a great looking cue.
 
PhilosopherKing said:
The seller is the operator of cornerstonecustomcues.com. He's on the up and up.
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I don't doubt that Cornerstone is on the "up and up".

But is the appraisal by the seller?

There is a certain word that often but not always appears before a valid appraisal...that is the word independent. Generally speaking a seller's appraisal is just a marketing tool.

Since it is selling at open auction it seems to me the actual value will be determined by the selling price more than such an appraised value.

If one wants a rider on their insurance for it then surely such an appraisal would be useful. But you will pay an inflated rate for that insurance rider, essentially paying for the "claimed" value.

The thing is, no picture of an appraisal document is provided anyway.

The document pictured is a COA with exclamation points and grammatical errors. Hard to take a document seriously when it is written that way. A certificate, letter, COA, or otherwise from Meucci, Billy Burge, or his daughter would probably carry substantially more weight.


But I do hope they do well with their sale. Obviously the right buyer will pay well for such a cue, but they will only have to beat the next higher bidder. So it is actually the second higher bidder who determines that value in an open Ebay auction. Not the seller, the COA, the appraiser, nor the ultimate auction winner.




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I'll be amazed if it rolls over $800

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I own the cue that C.J. Is using in this video. It has a 100% professional tournament winning record. He won this tournament using this cue and beat Earl in the finals and then went back to his Blud. Know what? Cues used by pros still miss! Maybe more by me than him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2BnTHfZ-tMk
 
HawaiianEye said:
I own the cue that C.J. Is using in this video. It has a 100% professional tournament winning record. He won this tournament using this cue and beat Earl in the finals and then went back to his Blud. Know what? Cues used by pros still miss! Maybe more by me than him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2BnTHfZ-tMk
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I would say the shooter misses. The cue seems to be incidental in that matter.

The quality or playing characteristics of such a cue has little to do with the value. If it were used by a famous player the value is the link to their name.

For example, there are Chinese made cues made in the eighties and nineties that sell on Ebay for maybe $20. The same cues, made in the same factory were also made with a name on them. Steve Mizerak. When that name is on them they sometimes sell for over $100, as much as $150. Typically they will sell in the $50-$80 range for nice ones.

Why? The name. Nothing else. The same thing that sold the cues when they were new in fact. LOL!

On cheap cues, the name can easily double, triple, or quadruple the value, or even more. And people think the high end market has something going. LOL!


How much more somebody is willing to pay in this case is something we are going to see.


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galipeau said:
I call shenanigans
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Chopdoc said:
I don't doubt that Cornerstone is on the "up and up".

But is the appraisal by the seller?

There is a certain word that often but not always appears before a valid appraisal...that is the word independent. Generally speaking a seller's appraisal is just a marketing tool.

Since it is selling at open auction it seems to me the actual value will be determined by the selling price more than such an appraised value.

If one wants a rider on their insurance for it then surely such an appraisal would be useful. But you will pay an inflated rate for that insurance rider, essentially paying for the "claimed" value.

The thing is, no picture of an appraisal document is provided anyway.

The document pictured is a COA with exclamation points and grammatical errors. Hard to take a document seriously when it is written that way. A certificate, letter, COA, or otherwise from Meucci, Billy Burge, or his daughter would probably carry substantially more weight.


But I do hope they do well with their sale. Obviously the right buyer will pay well for such a cue, but they will only have to beat the next higher bidder. So it is actually the second higher bidder who determines that value in an open Ebay auction. Not the seller, the COA, the appraiser, nor the ultimate auction winner.




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Who would you suggest to appraise a cue for probably largest and most respected purveyor in the business? ...Leigh and Leslie Keno? ...Should he take it to the Roadshow?

I suppose in cases like this, an appraisal is synonymous with a retail price.

By the way, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the mention of a self-appraised value isn't in bad taste.
 
Chopdoc said:
I don't doubt that Cornerstone is on the "up and up".

But is the appraisal by the seller?

There is a certain word that often but not always appears before a valid appraisal...that is the word independent. Generally speaking a seller's appraisal is just a marketing tool.

Since it is selling at open auction it seems to me the actual value will be determined by the selling price more than such an appraised value.

If one wants a rider on their insurance for it then surely such an appraisal would be useful. But you will pay an inflated rate for that insurance rider, essentially paying for the "claimed" value.

The thing is, no picture of an appraisal document is provided anyway.

The document pictured is a COA with exclamation points and grammatical errors. Hard to take a document seriously when it is written that way. A certificate, letter, COA, or otherwise from Meucci, Billy Burge, or his daughter would probably carry substantially more weight.


But I do hope they do well with their sale. Obviously the right buyer will pay well for such a cue, but they will only have to beat the next higher bidder. So it is actually the second higher bidder who determines that value in an open Ebay auction. Not the seller, the COA, the appraiser, nor the ultimate auction winner.




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Who would you suggest to appraise a cue for probably largest and most respected purveyor in the business? ...Leigh and Leslie Keno? ...Should he take it to the Roadshow?

I suppose in cases like this, an appraisal is synonymous with a retail price.

By the way, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the mention of a self-appraised value isn't in bad taste.
 
i don't doubt the pedigree but wouldn't the cue have to be from the 70s and 80s to be one he used in the action mentioned?
 
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