Inventing a new pool ghost

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michael4 said:
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That is a trans-federation billiard player ghost.

That unique billiard ghost is capable of playing in the WPA and non WPA events.

A trans-federation ghost opponent will always force you to play a shot requiring the bridge with the occasion an object ball or cluster is in the way.
 
WTF??? Find a fire sale on psychotropic goodies??
justnum said:
The standard tournament ghost is not good practice for beginners.

Suppose you have Juniors rising or adults pushing to be upper tier.

It is best to imagine ghosts with specific preferences for shots.

An entry level ghost for beginners is the always one rail safe preference. Dealing with defense from both the incoming and leaving player is critical to player development. When practicing evaluate the table for a one rail safe all the time.

Another entry level ghost for beginners is the over powered player. Practice setting up the same shot and see how it goes a few different ways.

The idea of inventing an opponent or creating a new ghost. My favorite ghost from experience are the players that take too long at the table.

It is easy to practice waiting. Not so easy to do as a younger man.
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straightline said:
Anywhere from zero on. You could play one that can only manage .5 or less or one that incrementally increases the strings or randomly via app or dice. I like the incremental one for pros going 20 or more ahead against a thing that keeps threatening to destroy them.
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I'm not sure why you feel the need to complicate the journey.

So then in practice:
A- you are playing the ghost a set to 7. Traditional rules, you break and then if you fail to win on your first turn. You miss 7 times and you lose the set.

2. Same as above, you go to 7 and the ghost goes to 4, a 3 game handicap. Did ghost b/run those 3 or does Casper need a little weight.

I play the ghost 18-1. I've yet to win but I do get to play a lot of sets.
 
justnum said:
The standard tournament ghost is not good practice for beginners.
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I think it is. Jimmy Fusco taught me that a novice should start with the three-ball ghost and shouldn't move up to the four-ball ghost until they've won five sets in a row. Once they've won five sets in a row against the four-ball ghost, they can move up to the five-ball ghost, etc., etc.

This approach to playing the ghost ensures that the ghost is a proper test and good practice at all levels of play.
 
justnum said:
How about a reverse 14.1 layout? Start with the breakball and then keeping adding balls. The fun math part was to find the areas the runout continues and the areas where the runout dies. You get to practice a specific sequence of shots and you can always look for adjustments. I never knew how important three shot ahead position play was until realizing you can't get everywhere on the table from one shot.

I understand the value of the keyball and the breakball. Keyball appreciation takes a lot of pool knowledge.

I started a reverse runout for a computer simulation, its a fruitful study.
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How do you practice 14.1 in reverse? If you start out with the break ball and add balls there's only 1 ball at a time on the table. I think the ghost as it is works just fine, there are enough variations that it doesn't need improvements. Its kind of like changing something just for the sake of making a change and not because its an improvement.
 
fastone371 said:
How do you practice 14.1 in reverse? If you start out with the break ball and add balls there's only 1 ball at a time on the table. I think the ghost as it is works just fine, there are enough variations that it doesn't need improvements. Its kind of like changing something just for the sake of making a change and not because its an improvement.
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Exactly.

As jusdim's standard fare...a solution looking for a problem.
 
Black-Balled said:
I'm not sure why you feel the need to complicate the journey.

So then in practice:
A- you are playing the ghost a set to 7. Traditional rules, you break and then if you fail to win on your first turn. You miss 7 times and you lose the set.

2. Same as above, you go to 7 and the ghost goes to 4, a 3 game handicap. Did ghost b/run those 3 or does Casper need a little weight.

I play the ghost 18-1. I've yet to win but I do get to play a lot of sets.
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Huh? They're talking about Keith elsewhere. No ghost is set up to put 15 racks on your ahead sets. Evolution man.
 
sjm said:
I think it is. Jimmy Fusco taught me that a novice should start with the three-ball ghost and shouldn't move up to the four-ball ghost until they've won five sets in a row. Once they've won five sets in a row against the four-ball ghost, they can move up to the five-ball ghost, etc., etc.

This approach to playing the ghost ensures that the ghost is a proper test and good practice at all levels of play.
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I wish I had that advice thirty years ago. For me pool was a lot of self discovery.
 
fastone371 said:
How do you practice 14.1 in reverse? If you start out with the break ball and add balls there's only 1 ball at a time on the table. I think the ghost as it is works just fine, there are enough variations that it doesn't need improvements. Its kind of like changing something just for the sake of making a change and not because its an improvement.
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For a long time I was not strong enough in pocketing skills and judging angle and position play.
Changing the ghost is to make sure pool has enough topics in rotation. I hate going to practice, but having a ghost I know I can beat and a story I can write about, it was for me to discover pool. Getting outside the box.

Outside of pool I promote a product. Reaching out to the new players is the same but its fun to reimagine old presentations.
The idea is to discuss specific strategies.

When I do 14.1 in reverse I set up the sequence again after adding a ball. This way I know the exact way to play position for the shot and I get to think about routes to get there.

The Socratic Method
Scientific Reasoning

Now there is Pool Quality Consistency and Pool Position Exploration.
 
Black-Balled said:
Huh, indeed.
Keith? Ahead sets?
You weren't responding to what I typed.
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I was talking about progressive ahead sets anyway. You know 1, 2, 3, 4 etc... stax o pax by the ghost.
IMO it's just one example of the kind of "wokouts" a budding tyrant should be doing. Flawless, relentless performance or nuthin'.
 
sjm said:
I think it is. Jimmy Fusco taught me that a novice should start with the three-ball ghost and shouldn't move up to the four-ball ghost until they've won five sets in a row. Once they've won five sets in a row against the four-ball ghost, they can move up to the five-ball ghost, etc., etc.

This approach to playing the ghost ensures that the ghost is a proper test and good practice at all levels of play.
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This kind of “progressive” practice challenges/motivates you, keeps real time score of your progress and can be used with lots of practice methods.

pj
chgo
 
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