Covelo said:I think us pool players may have developed a pessimistic attitude from missing too many 9-balls.
Russ Chewning said:Someone needs to give Harry Platis, the poolplaying lawyer from Washington state a call. He may not be a bankruptcy type lawyer, but I'd lay $100 to a donut he's pissed about this IPT thing if he knows about it.
If ANYone will give the poolplayers good advice, it will be Harry.
Russ
The downside of the legal avenue is the expense to engage lawyer(s). How many players have the means or the desire to sink more money into a potential legal quagmire that could tie everything up for years and probably not result in any payment to speak of?Jimmy M. said:Of course the deal is off. I doubt it went much further than Ho showing an interest; if it even went that far. How long can KT and the Sunshine Band keep up the charade? Are they going to let you all know that it's down the toilet on Friday or are they going to tell you that they can't finalize the deal over the weekend so you'll be receiving another announcement next week?
Does anyone here have a legal background? I'm not talking about the know-it-alls who think they might know something about the law. I mean, seriously, is there really someone here with a legal background? If so, my question is, do the players have a potential class action suit here? Not knowing anything about the law, I would suspect that they do. I would certainly think that the players could take the IPT to court individually.
Seriously, guys. Patience should be running out here. If you feel like there is some sort of chance of getting paid, wait a little longer, but, at the very least, I'd be seeking some sort of legal advice right now so I'd be ready when the final word came in that I'm getting screwed. What are the legalities if the IPT files bankruptcy? I'd try to get a judgement for my money before that happened. Maybe he's just stalling you guys until the bankruptcy is finalized. Maybe it isn't the fictitious "merger" at all (for $150M USD! Hah! That's my favorite part of the story!). At any rate, if I were one of the ones who was owed money, I'd be looking at what legal options, if any, that I had at the moment. You've been lied to AT LEAST once now when he told you that you weren't getting paid because the checkbook didn't make it to Reno in time. That was an obvious lie, otherwise the IPT could have paid you immediately after the whole checkbook thing was sorted out. It's been a month. KT DOES have his checkbook now. Only, now, he's feeding you a completely different load of crap. Now it isn't the checkbook at all! I'm just saying, don't wait for these guys to ride off into the sunset with your money. Seek some legal advice now just in case.
Covelo said:I have a feeling that Trudeau will come up with some True Dough... it makes sense to me.
I think us pool players may have developed a pessimistic attitude from missing too many 9-balls.
jay helfert said:Poor poor Deno. Sorry Edyie, somehow I don't feel too bad for this guy. He knew who he was getting in bed with. As for master KT, I don't believe he was ever nearly as wealthy as he claimed. The players aren't paid because he hasn't got it. It's that simple. He may have a few Mil left, but he won't let himself go broke paying off the poolpayers, that's for sure.
He is probably in Europe looking for his next sucker. That seems to be what he does best.
corvette1340 said:I agree with Jay. I don't think this clown has nearly as much as he claims. In fact, I don't think he has enough personally to cover the payouts. If anyone from the IPT is reading this (and I'm sure you are), I will give $50,000 for the rights to the IPT right now. That includes the website, marketing tools, merchandise, and any other tangible and intangible assets. This does NOT include the outstanding debt to players, vendors, or employees. Basically I would take the model of the IPT and start anew. There would be no false promises and the payouts would obviously be smaller depending on sponsorship and qualifier structure. I realize this is a pittance to the vast wealth and promises of the original Trudeau IPT, but then again, it might be better than nothing and I'm sure KT could use the extra cabbage right about now.
jjinfla said:From what I heard about him all he wants to do is play for big bucks - and lose.
I wonder how many pool players have robbed him.
Most likely people have already talked with him and he laughed and told them they deserve what they got.
Jake
Russ Chewning said:Jake,
I have been agreeing with a lot of what you say, but in this case, you are WAY out of line. Harry does like to gamble, and yes, historically, yes he has lost the majority of his matchups, because he is too busy making millions in his law practice to get his game to the level he would like.
On the other side of things, he has busted a few champions when he caught a stroke. He has also gotten a lot smarter about matching up. But of course, since all the "champions" always wanted to steal from him, you don't hear about that. And funny... I seem to have a matchup on DVD where he and McCready beat Ronnie Allen for the cash. Seems like he knows how to win at least SOME of the time!
He has also been known for "taking care" of a few down and out poolplayers, as well. Keith McCready comes to mind? And I heard about some old timer poolplayer who had cancer or something, and Harry helped the family out, something he was not obligated to do.
Know the man before you discredit him, Jake.
Russ
Smorgass Bored said:Maybe we need to shine the Bat symbol into the night sky and wait for BATMAN to catch the crooks....
Doug
jjinfla said:I have heard it all now.
The answer is:
Blame Bush. Yep, it is all his fault. Come on Eydie you are better than that.
av84fun said:TheOne...<<I've hinted at this for sometime now, the one good thing that the IPT has done is prove that great pool events can be shown and get reasonable overage online and on TV.>>
That was proven LONG AGO by the WPBA and the Mosconi Cup to name just a few.
Regards,
Jim
TheOne said:The online pool coverage of pool to date has been diabolical, this is one area that the IPT really did blaze a trail. The TV yes, but the IPT has done some good, the question is will it go to waste or will somebody else pick it up and run with it?
grisbe said:The shame of it is that their TV coverage could have been so much better. They should have hired an experienced executive producer and LISTENED to him/her instead of having an associate of KT run the show. There should have been some real "reality" type programming rather than just interviews, and the cheesy costumes and bad commentary should never have been included. If you compare the professional format of pro TV poker to the IPT, you'll see a world of difference.
Russ Chewning said:Jake,
I have been agreeing with a lot of what you say, but in this case, you are WAY out of line. Harry does like to gamble, and yes, historically, yes he has lost the majority of his matchups, because he is too busy making millions in his law practice to get his game to the level he would like.
On the other side of things, he has busted a few champions when he caught a stroke. He has also gotten a lot smarter about matching up. But of course, since all the "champions" always wanted to steal from him, you don't hear about that. And funny... I seem to have a matchup on DVD where he and McCready beat Ronnie Allen for the cash. Seems like he knows how to win at least SOME of the time!
He has also been known for "taking care" of a few down and out poolplayers, as well. Keith McCready comes to mind? And I heard about some old timer poolplayer who had cancer or something, and Harry helped the family out, something he was not obligated to do.
Know the man before you discredit him, Jake.
Russ
jjinfla said:How did I discredit him?
Well.. You said-
From what I heard about him all he wants to do is play for big bucks - and lose.
I wonder how many pool players have robbed him.
Most likely people have already talked with him and he laughed and told them they deserve what they got.
Jake