Irving Crane 150 and out

dmgwalsh said:
:eek: I meant for the whole thing to be converted.

Back to the drawing board.

In the meantime, here is a better 59 minute version of another Crane match.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5266866928670562306
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thanks for the second video!

also i don't quite follow what u meant when you said you meant for the whole thing to be converted. do you have the whole match in better quality and just did a bad job on the conversion?

thanks.
 
bad conversion job

worriedbeef said:
thanks for the second video!

also i don't quite follow what u meant when you said you meant for the whole thing to be converted. do you have the whole match in better quality and just did a bad job on the conversion?

thanks.
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Yes, that's exactly right. i had it on dvd and thought I had converted it to an avi file and then uploaded without checking it. I must have just converted a very small chapter. I'll get the other one done and it will be posted tomorrow or the next day.
 
The Deacon

I really enjoyed watching this. I had the opportunity to referee Irving about 10 years after this. Thanks for posting it.
 
how is it that 40 years ago they were able to produce such a high quality video with expert commentary and camera work while ESPN still can't?
 
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another observation, the equipment looked pretty damn good, and the balls rolled pretty well, and the pockets were big

I've seen tournaments with world class fields that had balls rolling alot worse than on that video

I still say players back then had the nerve and style that today's guys don't, but come on, Billiards is no exception to evolution, today's players are alot better
 
smashmouth said:
how is it that 40 years ago they were able to produce such a high quality video with expert commentary and camera work while ESPN still can't?
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The fault lies with the Producer and the Director. Usually clueless about pool, and don't want to know anything either. :(
 
I watched the Ortmann vs Schmidt straight pool match last night. Good match and a nice win for John Schmidt. Sigel commented during the match that the best straight pool player in his opinion was Irving Crane due to his longevity at the top of the game and the fact that Crane was the best safety player ever. Sigel said he would watch Crane play to pick up pointers. Said he saw Crane beat a guy 150 to -6 once and Crane never had a run higher than 21 balls, just would run a rack and play safe and win the safety battle then do it all over again.

He also said that there were only eight 150 and out runs during world championship competition and that Sigel himself had five of the eight. I'd like to see Sigel get back into serious competition but maybe he is making more money at the cue making business.
 
alstl said:
He also said that there were only eight 150 and out runs during world championship competition and that Sigel himself had five of the eight. I'd like to see Sigel get back into serious competition but maybe he is making more money at the cue making business.
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Did Sigel say how many of those 150 and out were in the finals, by any chance? I'm still trying to get that information.
 
Pushout said:
Did Sigel say how many of those 150 and out were in the finals, by any chance? I'm still trying to get that information.
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He didn't say, I got the impression that he meant eight times in the entire history of the world championships. That number seems a little low to me but I'll take his word for it.
 
alstl said:
He didn't say, I got the impression that he meant eight times in the entire history of the world championships. That number seems a little low to me but I'll take his word for it.
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The reason I ask, in the discussion about whether the older players were better than today's Straight Pool champions, I'm wondering how many, past or present, have run 150 and out IN THE Finals of any world championship. I'd really like to know the answer.
Running 150 and out is a great achievement at any time but with the pressure on in a final game, playing an opponent who is just as capable of running out as the player at the table, the mental pressure has to be great.
 
Pushout said:
The reason I ask, in the discussion about whether the older players were better than today's Straight Pool champions, I'm wondering how many, past or present, have run 150 and out IN THE Finals of any world championship. I'd really like to know the answer.
Running 150 and out is a great achievement at any time but with the pressure on in a final game, playing an opponent who is just as capable of running out as the player at the table, the mental pressure has to be great.
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I'm pretty sure that's the only one.
 
jay helfert said:
I'm pretty sure that's the only one.
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That's what I've been thinking, as I haven't found any information to the contrary. Which makes Crane's run all the more amazing.
 
dmgwalsh said:
:eek: I meant for the whole thing to be converted.

Back to the drawing board.

In the meantime, here is a better 59 minute version of another Crane match.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5266866928670562306
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Thanks for the videos. I don't know much about Jim Burke...maybe he wasn't feeling well or something but he played like a banger.

Crane's speed control was way off but hey..at age 73, it was great to see him playing as well as he did.

Regards,
Jim
 
When Mike was here in Rochester two weeks ago he claimed "in the history of the final game of the world 14.1 championships, 150 and out had been done only nine times and he had five of them". We were somewhat skeptical. But knowing Mike well, I'd guess he's correct.

Lyn
 
cardiac kid said:
When Mike was here in Rochester two weeks ago he claimed "in the history of the final game of the world 14.1 championships, 150 and out had been done only nine times and he had five of them". We were somewhat skeptical. But knowing Mike well, I'd guess he's correct.

Lyn
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NOT!!!!!!!!!
 
Pretty impressive videos. Crane was so smooth and knowledgeable he made it look effortless. Thanks for posting these videos.

Southpaw
 
Jay,

Why would Mike Sigel mis-remember something so important in his life:rolleyes: ????

Incidentally, I enjoyed your version of the US Open Bar Box far more than the current edition. Much less expensive for players of my caliber!

Lyn
 
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