Then maybe...Mt he whole lot.....was side betting! But I do know what I'm talking about in WA state, because I lived it, therefore I speak with facts and not about something I THINK I know something about!
Is betting on pool legal in your state?
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Then maybe...Mt he whole lot.....was side betting! But I do know what I'm talking about in WA state, because I lived it, therefore I speak with facts and not about something I THINK I know something about!
What about horse racing track's? They compete against casinos for the same customer's! And your last statement just proves you have no idea what in the hell you're talking about as I flat out told you that playing pool for money between the 2 players at the table is LEGAL in Washington state and HAS been for as long as I can remember playing for money.
That should be "an" ultracrepidarian, of course
. I had to look it up. It comes with a nice story and even a picture:![CropperCapture[60].jpg](https://forums.azbilliards.com/data/attachments/325/325735-a0531a68dbcaed9c399486d1d57f2189.jpg?hash=oFMaaNvK7Z "CropperCapture[60].jpg")
The base of the word is Latin for "above the sandal" and the story is about a shoemaker who gave good advice to an artist about drawing sandals but then started to suggest other changes for the picture.
As far as the original post, I think in most jurisdictions a two-person bet where the participants are betting only on their own play is legal, while side betting and calcuttas are illegal. Further, local laws and local attitudes may be a factor.
An on-line gaming company has looked into the legality of skill gaming (because that's what their product is) and they have this map of states where skill gaming is legal: https://www.dollarcandygame.com/Games/DollarCandy/Misc/FAQ.aspx#IsItLegal
Whether their study also covered games like pool is not clear.
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GoldenFlash
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The same lawmakers who come up with this stuff will be on the golf courses on Sunday afternoons playing a $20 Nassau.That should be "an" ultracrepedarian, of course
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The base of the word is Latin for "above the sandal" and the story is about a shoemaker who gave good advice to an artist about drawing sandals but then started to suggest other changes for the picture.
As far as the original post, I think in most jurisdictions a two-person bet where the participants are betting only on their own play is legal, while side betting and calcuttas are illegal. Further, local laws and local attitudes may be a factor.
An on-line gaming company has looked into the legality of skill gaming (because that's what their product is) and they have this map of states where skill gaming is legal: https://www.dollarcandygame.com/Games/DollarCandy/Misc/FAQ.aspx#IsItLegal
Whether their study also covered games like pool is not clear.
Bunch of hypocrites.
I ain't no legal beagle, but...
I believe in the state of Texas, it is legal to bet on a game of pool (assuming one is a participant). However, any form of gambling is illegal (that is, against the Alcoholic Beverage Commision regulations) in an establishment that serves alcohol. Gambling is also illegal if the house takes a cut of the money, regardless of whether the location is public or private.
I believe in the state of Texas, it is legal to bet on a game of pool (assuming one is a participant). However, any form of gambling is illegal (that is, against the Alcoholic Beverage Commision regulations) in an establishment that serves alcohol. Gambling is also illegal if the house takes a cut of the money, regardless of whether the location is public or private.
The police can arrest someone for many things as long as they can somewhat justify the arrest. You know how many arrests have been on false presumptions with the person being released almost immediately? Arrest does not necessarily mean illegality.
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Don't worry about it. Just wear your Hustlin shirt and start hustling people.
The only thing I would bet on is that any answer I get from a pool player about gambling is wrong at least 75% of the time. This thread is a perfect example.
Lay down 6 to 1 on it and I'll consider it....
**ChopStick walks in**
Oh nooo!!! Noooo!!!! ..........
Exactly right.
I was arrested for reckless driving when I was walking.
One of my better stories is, the night I was arrested for reckless driving when I was walking. A real keystone cops night. The last officer(of about 13) l spoke with asked, "What's your story?" I replied, "I have been caught and released, and I am good to go."
One of my better stories is, the night I was arrested for reckless driving when I was walking. A real keystone cops night. The last officer(of about 13) l spoke with asked, "What's your story?" I replied, "I have been caught and released, and I am good to go."
Did the tag hurt much?:grin:
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One says gambling is legal if you're only betting on yourself and not side-betting.
Another says he's seen stings in the past where large numbers in poolhalls were arrested.
Both sternly insist that the other has no idea what he's talking about.
(Yet another healthy pool discussion, free of ego or insults.)
An old habit around here is to never hand over the money directly to the winner. Instead, put the money in a pocket while walking around collecting balls, or in the ball return, or on a side drinks table.
Another says he's seen stings in the past where large numbers in poolhalls were arrested.
Both sternly insist that the other has no idea what he's talking about.
(Yet another healthy pool discussion, free of ego or insults.)
An old habit around here is to never hand over the money directly to the winner. Instead, put the money in a pocket while walking around collecting balls, or in the ball return, or on a side drinks table.
Willowbrook Wolfy
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So what about having a wager with whoever you are playing in a tournament? Let’s say the race is to 7 but you bet your opponent on the first to 5? Is that frowned upon?
As someone who has been arrested and fined for gambling at pool I will only say this. State laws be damned. Each and every municipality has their own interpretation of what's legal and what's not, and that often extends to gambling of all kinds. In one county the cops look the other way and in the next county over you will get busted. It's all about raising revenue and if you're on the wrong side of this equation it's gonna cost you money. Been there, done that and paid for my sins. Other places, cops are in the game and gambling with the rest of us. Best advice I can give is to know the lay of the land wherever you are and proceed from there.
Best example I have is that when I had my first poolroom in Bakersfield I would often close at 2 AM and continue a private game on the front table that was very visible from the street outside. Once in a while a cop car would cruise slowly by and when the cop saw me in there he would just wave and go on. I went up to Fresno (100 miles away) to play someone and the owner of the poolroom told me not to discuss money when gambling in there and when exchanging money only do it when seated at a table nearby, not when standing by the pool table. He said there are undercover cops in there all the time looking to arrest someone for gambling.
Best example I have is that when I had my first poolroom in Bakersfield I would often close at 2 AM and continue a private game on the front table that was very visible from the street outside. Once in a while a cop car would cruise slowly by and when the cop saw me in there he would just wave and go on. I went up to Fresno (100 miles away) to play someone and the owner of the poolroom told me not to discuss money when gambling in there and when exchanging money only do it when seated at a table nearby, not when standing by the pool table. He said there are undercover cops in there all the time looking to arrest someone for gambling.
Lol, I have no memory of my posts to this thread. I had to look up the definition of ultracrepidarian. Soooo it seems that is a less abrasive way to say "talking out your ass".
My biggest score was a Thanksgiving raffle at the local grocery store when I was 12. They gave away 10 turkeys and a bicycle. I won the bike. After the oh wow, I thought, "sure glad it wasn't a turkey." <-----Oooops wrong thread.
My biggest score was a Thanksgiving raffle at the local grocery store when I was 12. They gave away 10 turkeys and a bicycle. I won the bike. After the oh wow, I thought, "sure glad it wasn't a turkey." <-----Oooops wrong thread.
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Kind of surprised not to find a mention of the case that went before a judge in Washington state. With Harry Platis representing two Seattle players that had been stiffed by two Portland players. The judge decided that the two on the table we're involved in a contest of skill and that debt was to be paid. While the other two on the side we're gambling and any wagers they made were not a valid debt.
In Illinois, the following is illegal and considered gambling:
Play a game of skill or chance for money or anything of value, unless such conduct falls within a specific exception as set forth under this statute.
Exceptions: There are only 2 exceptions that could possibly fit here;
1. Games of skill or chance where no purchase is necessary to participate. (not sure if putting up your own money is considered a "purchase"
2. Offers of prizes, awards or compensation to the actual contestants in a bona fide contest based on determination of speed, skill, strength or endurance or to the owners of the animals or vehicles involved. (this for sure covers all leagues, weekly tournaments, and one on one gambling, etc)
But, ask 12 cops, and you will get 12 different answers. Sure, you may not have broken the law, but you won't know that till the prosecutor reviews the charges and dismisses the case. Some folks still think our weekly poker games are illegal because they got kind of "pricey", yet the law does not determine gambling based on any set amounts, not $1 or $1M dollars.
Play a game of skill or chance for money or anything of value, unless such conduct falls within a specific exception as set forth under this statute.
Exceptions: There are only 2 exceptions that could possibly fit here;
1. Games of skill or chance where no purchase is necessary to participate. (not sure if putting up your own money is considered a "purchase"
2. Offers of prizes, awards or compensation to the actual contestants in a bona fide contest based on determination of speed, skill, strength or endurance or to the owners of the animals or vehicles involved. (this for sure covers all leagues, weekly tournaments, and one on one gambling, etc)
But, ask 12 cops, and you will get 12 different answers. Sure, you may not have broken the law, but you won't know that till the prosecutor reviews the charges and dismisses the case. Some folks still think our weekly poker games are illegal because they got kind of "pricey", yet the law does not determine gambling based on any set amounts, not $1 or $1M dollars.