Is Efren Reyes Good For Pool??????

Hey everybody, I just want you to know that as someone from North Carolina, Bernie Moved here and we DON'T CLAIM HIM!!
 
Hey, Bernie! Say "hi" to Billy Jay and Travis when you attend your Trotter family reunion this weekend. Be sure to type up all of the wisdom that you guys come up with, and post it here on Monday. :) :rolleyes:
 
Tim-n-NM said:
I think Efern is great for pool. He comes from a poor background and is a self made man.
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I suspected as much. You wouldn't buy one looking like that would you.

Boro Nut
 
Y'know Bernie, do you even listen to yourself when you speak? My god how I would just love to curse you out right now if not for the restrictions of this forum. You truly are a moron. Stop your jealousy and your hatred of Efren just because you stink.
 
8-ball bernie said:
the question here is a deep and important one. is efren reyes good for pool?
the answer that i give is NO!
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Bernie....your an idiot.
 
8-ball bernie said:
i am the second worst IPT player, after ryan keller,ok there i said it!
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There are some comments in this IPT bio that don't sound like it would come from the "second worst IPT player".
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Bernie Friend started playing pool at the age of eight. By the time he was nine, he could make any ball from anywhere on the table. Blessed with exceptional eyesight, and a straight smooth stroke, Bernie killed all his friends and family at pool. However that wasn't enough for him; he wanted to test his skills in tournament format. In New York, the money was in the 8-ball tournaments in the bars where players had to use a lot of two way shots and strategy. Players were not allowed to play safety if they valued their lives. So Bernie learned early on how to be creative and thrifty in playing 8-ball on a small cluttered bar room table. Bernie Friend went on to win over 65 tournaments in 8-ball on six foot bar tables. He is a five time champion of Chance's 8-ball Tournament in New York. Bernie won the biggest 8-ball tournament in the history of New York-- the January 2002 8-ball Chance's Calcutta Classic. The tournament included twenty-one of the greatest bar table players from New York and the largest purse ever of $2600. Bernie's high run in 8-ball is five break and runs. “Textbook Bernie” feels his strongest points are his shot making ability and his fine-tuned positional play. He feels he can outshoot anyone in the world. Look for the incredible potting magic from Bernie Friend on the IPT this year.
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zzz... he doesn't hate efren as far as i know... he even posted before the world 8 ball open and predicted that efren will win it. err and your bio in the ipt is quite funny, is that really true or made up? Lol...

bernie friend is a class act... :D :D :D

PoolFool said:
Y'know Bernie, do you even listen to yourself when you speak? My god how I would just love to curse you out right now if not for the restrictions of this forum. You truly are a moron. Stop your jealousy and your hatred of Efren just because you stink.
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Good grief...

Posts like Bernie's are an embarrassment & insult to everyone as AZ forum members.

There is just no excuse.
 
So you have a comp at your local and an outsider comes in. Spends nothing, doesnt socialise, wins and splits. Thats an anti hero. Not a hero.
Efren does that. Can't see how americans en masse will like someone who beats their own and runs with cash.
Thats not really good tv in the States.
Efren.
He's not articulate in explaining how he can do what he does.
Not proactive in meeting media to respond to a fanbase.
Clint Eastwood good for the Indians?
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so who are your hero sigel and earl??
he is not arrogant like these americans..
and everybody even players socialize around him,


that is what endeared him to the fans
an exact opposite of those two
an anti-villain
 
THE MAGIC OF EFREN 'BATA' REYES

Manila, May 4, 2003 -- (Below is the editorial for the next issue of Billiards Digest, which publisher Mike Panozzo, through Puyat Sports, distributed to Philippine newspapers yesterday. Puyat Sports is among the primary sponsors of Efren "Bata" Reyes and other Filipino professional billiards players.)
On July 12, Efren Reyes will be formally inducted into the Billiard Congress of America Hall of Fame. He will be honored in the Greatest Players category, and justifiably so. He has won some of the biggest tournaments pool has staged, including the World 9-ball championship, a pair of World 8-ball championships, and a US Open 9-ball championship.

But the fact is, Efren Reyes could just as easily be inducted in the Meritorious Service category, because no single player in the last 20 years (or even since Mosconi, for that matter) has had a bigger impact on tournament pool than the humble, quiet, friendly, deadly interloper from Angeles, Pampanga, near Manila in the Philippines. Has Earl Strickland added something to pool with his talent, flare and unpredictability? No doubt. Has Jeanette Lee transcended the sport and brought notoriety to our industry through her celebrity? No doubt. But neither can match Reyes' impact.

For nearly 20 years, Reyes has played the Pied Piper to pool fans everywhere, all the while teaching his contemporaries around the world that there is still plenty to learn on the table. When Reyes plays, people crowd around to watch. Players crowd around to watch. And it's been that way since Reyes first set foot on American soil, back in January 1985, at that memorable event in Houston.

Red's Open 9-Ball Championship was typically Texan. It was a raucous circus staged inside a sprawling bi-level sports bar. The music was loud. The people were loud. For the first few days of the tournament, little attention was paid to the thin, square-shouldered shooter with the roller-coaster stroke playing under the name of Cesar Morales. But as "Morales" painfully easy stroll through the talent-packed 108-man field began to take shape, heads began to turn. After each win (no player reached seven in the race-to-10- matches), Reyes would depart the arena flanked by a Filipino entourage that gambled, giggled and taunted their unsuspecting hosts with the only English words they seemed to know: "Where's the beef?" Reyes' only miscue in Houston was following the title match, when he instinctively signed an autograph-seeker's program "Efren Reyes." Noticing his own gaffe, Reyes grinned, shook his head and walked away. The charade was over.

That Reyes won the Red's title undefeated isn't important. In pool, hidden talents have popped up with fair regularity. What left an indelible mark on the game was the manner in which Reyes won. He was clearly playing a game no American players had ever seen, much less played. He played position off jump shots. His kick shots either pocketed the object ball, or resulted in carefully plotted safeties. And his safety play left players and fans alike scratching their heads and pushing their jaws back into place. Equally important, he energized a lethargic game and drew flocks of fans back to tournaments.

Amazingly, little has changed in the past 20 years. Even at 50, "The Magician" continues to confound with his unmatched creativity and his dizzying arsenal of shots. And the more you learn about Reyes, the more you're convinced you're in the presence of genuis. From chess to cards to any game played with balls and cues, it quickly becomes obvious that Reyes' mind works more logically and at a faster pace than most humans. He understands. His win in Houston marked Reyes' second attempt at 9-ball. He didn't even know all the rules! Because of his versatility, Reyes was chosen by his Philippine team to compete in the snooker portion at the Asian Games in the early 1990s. He'd never played before. He finished third. On a lark, he entered a world-class three-cushion tournament in 1985 that featured Raymond Ceulemans and Torbjorn Blomdahl, among others. He barely missed making the finals bracket, then posted a gaudy 1.30 average in winning the consolation bracket.

The topper? He's impossible to dislike. He says so little, yet his actions say so much. He smiles mostly with his eyes, but it's an endearing smile. He never complains. Never acts cheated. Is equally gracious in victory and defeat.

He is why we have a Hall of Fame.
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As far as I can see Bernie hates Efren because Efren is doing what most of us dream to do. I think Bernie is so jealous of Efren that he hates him. He may have predicted that Efren would win the IPT but that doesn't mean he doesn't hate him. You don't have to like someone in order to respect his/her game. But in Bernie's case, I don't hate Bernie cuz' of his game(believe me, there is absolutely nothing to be jealous of), I hate Bernie because of his close sightedness and that he still gets to voice his opinion no matter how politically incorrect and MORONIC he is. For that, I have absolutely no respect for a loser like Bernie who can't even give credit where credit is due.
 
i hope bernie was here in jakarta today during the game of efren in the semifinals and finals


Efren entertains the crowd not only with his mesmerizing shots,
when he speaks during the game everybody laughs, when he shakes everybody laughs..
he is also funny and entertaining guy...

and besides, it is a kind a different atmosphere even among fans and players whenever it is efern's turn on the stage.

he is class act
 
For all you people that "understand" what Bernie is trying to say, you are not taking into account that he didn't realize that America is a melting pot of many, many different races, and they all watch TV. Now think about what he is trying to say, and see if it makes sense. HELL NO IT DOESNT!
 
cuetechasaurus said:
I second that. Give it up Bernie, you make as much sense as a crack whore on LSD.
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Hey, don't talk about a crack whore on LSD that way!!!
 
I never responded to any of Bernie's post, but figured it was time. Usually, me and my friends just laugh at what he writes here(and i'm sure we are not the only ones). I just don't understand the people who hold on to a dream that the pool circuit will be as big as the NBA, NFL, or even Nascar for that matter. Ok, Greenleaf drew huge crowds, but i'm sure Babe Ruth drew bigger crowds, and this was the heyday of pool. When there were 4,000 "pool halls" in NYC alone. I don't think big sponsors would make that big of a change- look at Camel. As far as Efren, who better to bring pool to the masses, as many people seem to want. He is quiet, friendly, and just happens to be the best player there is. On the other hand, Strickland and Sigel may be entertaining, but they kind of fit into the public's perception of pool players. If a mother and her kids were watching pool together as a family, I would think seeing those two play would just further there stereotype of pool players. Someone mentioned about needing a player like Stickland or Sigel to bring pool to the masses. What about when these two were at the top of the game?????? I didn't see the masses then and don't think it would be different these days. I happen to like pool the way it is, even though it would be great to reward the professionals better. I just don't believe there is anything that could get pool on the national stage like some of these other sports. Efren may be the best man for the job, but even Efren's powers cannot get pool to the level of the NFL. Thanks for the motivation Bernie. Your the best!!! :p
 
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