Is It CTE or ETC? It Doesn't Matter

Put a piece of chalk on the table.

Now roll it down the table.

Oh wait , it doesnt roll.

Why is that?

Why can a ball be rolled down the table but chalk can not?

Hmmm could it be the chalk consists of 6 flat planes and edges where two planes meet and a corner where three planes meet?

Does a ball consist of those?

When you place the tip of your finger on a ball, it touches a point on the surface of the ball. Not a edge.

You can place the tip of your finger on the edge of chalk. The edge where two of the 6 planes meet.
I roll dice a lot. Aren’t they shaped like a piece of chalk?
 
Put a piece of chalk on the table.

Now roll it down the table.

Oh wait , it doesnt roll.

Why is that?

Why can a ball be rolled down the table but chalk can not?

Hmmm could it be the chalk consists of 6 flat planes and edges where two planes meet and a corner where three planes meet?

Does a ball consist of those?

When you place the tip of your finger on a ball, it touches a point on the surface of the ball. Not a edge.

You can place the tip of your finger on the edge of chalk. The edge where two of the 6 planes meet.

100% correct. Spheres don't have PHYSICAL edges. But when it comes to aiming pool shots, sending the cb to the ob, both balls certainly do have VISUAL edges where the solid object (surface curvature of the ball) ends in relation to our visual perspective.
 
100% correct. Spheres don't have PHYSICAL edges. But when it comes to aiming pool shots, sending the cb to the ob, both balls certainly do have VISUAL edges where the solid object (surface curvature of the ball) ends in relation to our visual perspective.
And if you take one step to the side in either direction you still have a visual edge, but it's a different new visual edge. Keyrect?
 
And if you take one step to the side in either direction you still have a visual edge, but it's a different new visual edge. Keyrect?
New to what? There is only one visual edge without an outside reference. What outside reference does the new visual edge relate to?

A sphere has no visual edge on it's own, one visual edge is as good as another without the outside reference. What changes on the barn by taking a few steps to the right?
 
Try explaining how to aim a shotgun when shooting sporting clays.

Ya gotta shoot alot before ya really get the hang on where to aim the shotgun based on where the sporting clay is going.

Ya gotta aim where you think the sporting will be when ya pull the trigger.

Aint know different in learning how to pocket ballls…….ya just gotta do it alot and forget any aiming system.
 
Its visual center and edges from your new perspective.
Yes, that's what it is.
A better question is how big does the system say "steps" are and how many does it say are needed for a given shot?

pj
chgo
There are no steps that matter. It's the position of the CB to the OB and how they rotate to create a new center and edge for changing angles to the pocket.
 
Try explaining how to aim a shotgun when shooting sporting clays.

Ya gotta shoot alot before ya really get the hang on where to aim the shotgun based on where the sporting clay is going.

Ya gotta aim where you think the sporting will be when ya pull the trigger.

Aint know different in learning how to pocket ballls…….ya just gotta do it alot and forget any aiming system.
I never played a pool game of any kind when the OB was moving. Although I did see Earl Strickland roll balls down the table and then shoot the CB to fire the moving targets into pockets.
 
New to what? There is only one visual edge without an outside reference. What outside reference does the new visual edge relate to?

A sphere has no visual edge on it's own, one visual edge is as good as another without the outside reference. What changes on the barn by taking a few steps to the right?
The new center from your new perspective.
 
There are no steps that matter. It's the position of the CB to the OB and how they rotate to create a new center and edge for changing angles to the pocket.
How do you decide which new center/edge (i.e., how many steps of what size) is needed for any given shot?

pj
chgo
 
The new center from your new perspective.
How do you decide which new center/edge (i.e., how many steps of what size) is needed for any given shot?

pj
chgo
This is where I was going with this. I can easily use CTE after I know where the center of the pocket is, through aiming while standing. Standing behind the OB and looking into center pocket. It looks correct in one place, and one place only. Knowing the line between OB and center pocket makes it easy to use CTE.

Is it just reverse triangulation to put a center or edge of the CB on the correct place(ABC spot)? Doing CTE that way gives you concrete aim using edges/center. Just picking one "randomly" through estimating angles doesn't really make sense to me. I doubt anyone good at CTE just randomly picks one... this is where practice at the sighting method comes in.

I feel as if the stock angles don't mean much on their own (this could be ignorance on my part). One of the CTE visualizations (sometimes multiple) are the obvious answers. But can you get the center pocket target without looking at the center pocket (behind OB) first?

Is it just imagining angles? I can't confirm if it is, but if it is, isn't it easier to take the reality of the OB to pocket line and align to a CTE aim? Stepping the CB gets it to look right for the target, but how does one accurately get the target unless they go look at it first? I've seen the curtain shots so I know it's possible. I'm starting to experiment again with CTE but this is something that just doesn't sit right with me.

I always feel that doing CTE this way (by first determining the OB-pocket line) isn't what is talked about in the book, but it works very well. When you imagine the "contact point," it is always very close to a CTE aim. Once you take that CTE aim that is closest to reality, you can step the CB to get it to that reality. Am I just completely off point on this? It works for me. No clue if it's a bastardization of CTE or if it would be officially recognized as CTE, but working backwards from the pocket makes CTE even more accurate IMO.
 
How do you decide which new center/edge (i.e., how many steps of what size) is needed for any given shot?

pj
chgo
I think after 25 years it's finally time for YOU to give the answer to your question by working with it yourself and then
reporting back with your findings. Do it with a video, not some dumbass 2D drawing either. Put the video on here and
then articulate or articulate during the video. Everyone is dying to see what you look like anyway.
 
It's been that way for the past 25 years already. You can't answer the question.

pj
chgo
The questions have been answered many times over the years by many different people. You continue to disregard the answers and just be the same know it all pain in the ass that keeps looking like the fool you are. Thousands of pool players all across the world can't possibly be wrong and you be the only one that's right. A good number of them are also pro players and pro instructors. You on the other hand are a legend in you own mind and a big fat nobody in pool. (actually, you're pretty damn
skinny)
 
Try explaining how to aim a shotgun when shooting sporting clays.

Ya gotta shoot alot before ya really get the hang on where to aim the shotgun based on where the sporting clay is going.

Ya gotta aim where you think the sporting will be when ya pull the trigger.

Aint know different in learning how to pocket ballls…….ya just gotta do it alot and forget any aiming system.
So you aim at the pocket? Cause that’s where the OB is going
 
Try explaining how to aim a shotgun when shooting sporting clays.

Ya gotta shoot alot before ya really get the hang on where to aim the shotgun based on where the sporting clay is going.

Ya gotta aim where you think the sporting will be when ya pull the trigger.

Aint know different in learning how to pocket ballls…….ya just gotta do it alot and forget any aiming system.
You don't "aim" a shotgun. You point.
 
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