Is It CTE or ETC? It Doesn't Matter

Put a dot on the CB where your line of sight passes through on its way to the 3D center. Now move a step to the side and aim centerball again - you're once again aiming through the center of the visible surface, but are you aiming at the dot?

Semantics. Are you sure you're not Duckie?

pj
chgo
Speeder said something like <the center moved right?> Besides all the stuff he can't explain I couldn't let a physical impossibility pass. Note, I still don't get the context of this facet of the Shuffett Shuffle. But it seems like you get in position, then fidget with how you look at the shot and then both hands align themselves and make the shot.
 
No. Now that we've established moving your head doesn't change the shot, I'm asking what the shift does. (?)
I don’t think we established that at all. Moving your head does change the way you see the shot.
Do you have any experience whatsoever with CTE?
 
Speeder said something like <the center moved right?> Besides all the stuff he can't explain I couldn't let a physical impossibility pass. Note, I still don't get the context of this facet of the Shuffett Shuffle. But it seems like you get in position, then fidget with how you look at the shot and then both hands align themselves and make the shot.
There is no fidgeting with CTE. You are getting CTE confused with PJ’s method
 
Actually, you’re getting Spiderbrain’s nonsense “put downs” confused with reality. Not that surprising, I guess, for people who believe CTE’s fantasy claims.

pj
chgo
Actually, reality is exactly what his post is about you and fidgeting. Are you going to claim you never made a post
how your head goes up and down (or maybe it was side to side) like a LIZARD? That was YOU that made the post!

The only fantasy is YOU thinking you can actually play pool and hang with just about anyone for the cash. The REALITY is:
1. You never play for cash
2. You can't play worth crap
3. Your ego far exceeds reality
 
Actually, you’re getting Spiderbrain’s nonsense “put downs” confused with reality. Not that surprising, I guess, for people who believe CTE’s fantasy claims.

pj
chgo
Your description of yourself not mine. I wasn’t putting you down for it, hey if it works for you that’s fine with me
 
Actually, reality is exactly what his post is about you and fidgeting. Are you going to claim you never made a post
how your head goes up and down (or maybe it was side to side) like a LIZARD? That was YOU that made the post!
So quote it, Brainiac.

The only fantasy is YOU thinking you can actually play pool and hang with just about anyone for the cash. The REALITY is:
1. You never play for cash
2. You can't play worth crap
Neither of these is true - but of course you know that.

3. Your ego far exceeds reality
Undoubtedly. At least I don't have to lie for mine.

pj
chgo
 
What's wrong with doing that anyway? If a technique genuinely helps you to zero in on the aimline then why not use it?
How about if it puts you on the OB line to the POCKET like CTE does, is that the same as the aimline or even better? Which is
our thoughts, why not use it?

Going up and down, side to side like a lizard does make one look kinda like a total hack fool though.
 
If you haven’t and I’m wrong I will apologize
You won't be having to apologize. I'll post it twice, once here and again answering his post since he said to do it.

From: Patrick Johnson <REMOV...@21stcentury.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:32:45 -0500
Local: Tues, Sep 12 2000 3:32 pm

We've talked about this a few times. I prefer to sight down the
contact point-to-contact point line, but that puts my head in
different positions over the stick depending on the shot and can be
physically difficult for cue ball contact points "outside" the stick,
so I adjust it for comfort and consistency. I also like to move my
head back and forth to sight down more than one of the available
lines, including cue ball path, just for cross reference (I might look
a little like a lizard doing this). I like to know that my stick is
pointing where I want it to, but "sight down the stick" doesn't work
by itself for me.

Pat Johnson
Chicago
 
How about if it puts you on the OB line to the POCKET like CTE does, is that the same as the aimline or even better? Which is
our thoughts, why not use it?

Going up and down, side to side like a lizard does make one look kinda like a total hack fool though.
I was anticipating your reply which is why I inserted the word "genuinely."

I know this is going to trigger you but everything does so what the heck? I really don't think professional players who use CTE and teach CTE and guys like Randy believe CTE does what you think it does. I think if I had a 1 on 1 conversation at a table they would say "Well this is how I use it" or "It promotes consistency," or something like that.
 
So quote it, Brainiac.
Your wish is MY PLEASURE. See below, weasel liar.
Neither of these is true - but of course you know that.
Wanna bet?
Undoubtedly. At least I don't have to lie for mine.

pj
chgo
From: Patrick Johnson <REMOV...@21stcentury.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:32:45 -0500
Local: Tues, Sep 12 2000 3:32 pm

We've talked about this a few times. I prefer to sight down the
contact point-to-contact point line, but that puts my head in
different positions over the stick depending on the shot and can be
physically difficult for cue ball contact points "outside" the stick,
so I adjust it for comfort and consistency. I also like to move my
head back and forth to sight down more than one of the available
lines, including cue ball path, just for cross reference (I might look
a little like a lizard doing this). I like to know that my stick is
pointing where I want it to, but "sight down the stick" doesn't work
by itself for me.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

ROTFLMAO...ROTFLMAO...ROTFLMAO - Pat Johnson - The CLOWN CORNER OF POOL!
 
I was anticipating your reply which is why I inserted the word "genuinely."
CTE "GENUINELY" puts the OB directly on the correct shot line to the pocket and GENUINELY puts the CB contacting the OB at impact to send it on the shot line to the pocket if one knows how to visually align them like other aiming systems.
I know this is going to trigger you but everything does so what the heck? I really don't think professional players who use CTE and teach CTE and guys like Randy believe CTE does what you think it does.
I know exactly what it does...it makes balls go straight into the pocket when you know how to use it and set up correctly just like any other aiming system. For those of us who DO USE IT, it's just more CONSISTENT than other aiming systems. Why wouldn't we use CTE for that reason? What do YOU think it does since you haven't the faintest clue how to set up with it?
I think if I had a 1 on 1 conversation at a table they would say "Well this is how I use it" or "It promotes consistency," or something like that.
No, they would say exactly what I said above. But whatever they would say, you'd disregard their answer, not believe them, and start countering their response with some half assed hair brained crap that you guys have been spouting off for 25 years.
 
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Your wish is MY PLEASURE. See below, weasel liar.

Wanna bet?

From: Patrick Johnson <REMOV...@21stcentury.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:32:45 -0500
Local: Tues, Sep 12 2000 3:32 pm

We've talked about this a few times. I prefer to sight down the
contact point-to-contact point line, but that puts my head in
different positions over the stick depending on the shot and can be
physically difficult for cue ball contact points "outside" the stick,
so I adjust it for comfort and consistency. I also like to move my
head back and forth to sight down more than one of the available
lines, including cue ball path, just for cross reference (I might look
a little like a lizard doing this). I like to know that my stick is
pointing where I want it to, but "sight down the stick" doesn't work
by itself for me.

Pat Johnson
Chicago
That's it? lol

I don't even remember this (and don't remember doing it that way either), but you're welcome to dredge it up for another 20+ years if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I'd feel guilty about living in your head rent free for all these years if it wasn't such a dump.

pj
chgo
 
What's wrong with doing that anyway? If a technique genuinely helps you to zero in on the aimline then why not use it?
I never said anything was wrong with it. But it’s people like you that complain about movement when down on the shot.
 
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