Trick question.
Is it possible that after 5 years of playing, i can aim automatically?????
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Trick question.
You must have misunderstood most of the conversations here if you are thinking "calm".
Oh, you mean on the table. Yeah, I'd agree with that.
so why do many for example walk over behind the ball and the pocket firstOf course.
In fact, that's exactly how most people play. The vast majority of pool players don't use any kind of conscious aiming system at all.
Whether it's "utopia" or not, depends on how well you actually play.
then go back to the cue ball
and do this action before most shots?
That is to give your brain more information about the size of the angle. You see the shot more clearly and completely. I don't consider that a "system". In my view, the word "system" applies to something much more explicit, like fractional ball or inch-and-an-eighth.
There are people who say, "however you aim is a system". I disagree.
finding the contact point is an aiming system called "contact point aiming"
isnt it?
like you
I also can just see from behind the object ball if i hit it there it will go in the pocket
although sometimes i will use fractions to aim at
but what i do is not relevant to the discussion
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I'm not an instructor.
I can't describe my process very well, but I've hit an awful lot of balls. Basically I look through the center of the OB to where I want it to go into the pocket. I then go over/around to where I need to be in relation to the CB to come down onto the shot line.
I feel as if looking at the OB to pocket it helps me triangulate/see the angle/imagine the collision or hit without visual distortion. I can do it two ways, I can keep a pinpoint focus on the OB, or I can look at the part of the pocket I want it to go. It's basically applied trig, I can focus on either point of the triangle, but when I get into position and address/get down on the CB I am on the correct shot line. When I'm playing my best all the angle stuff is taken care of by my subconscious. I could shoot the wings off a gnat but don't ask me how, it just looks right. I might even have a small twitch in the ligaments on the top side of my bridge hand when everything is dead nuts.
Just knowing the angle/line from the OB to pocket lets me comfortably address the shot. I pretty much let my subconscious correctly get me down on the ball.
At that point it's all about making sure my stroke is straight and feels right. Sometimes I'll take practice strokes in the air to get an idea of how to stand to get my shoulder in line. If the stroke is straight on the line when up, I can then get down properly. It's not a textbook stance but I have terrible back problems so I just have to get a straight nice stroke and step into the shot address to where the stroke is straight.
If my back was the same from day to day I would probably not do air strokes, but it's hard to make sure you are mechanically stroking well (on line) when your stance changes day to day or hour to hour at some point.
Back injuries suck but I ain't gonna let it keep me down.EDIT: As far as a "contact point," sometimes I have one on the OB, sometimes I'm looking at the pocket, sometimes I just let the angle program into my mind's eye and let that be that. Sometimes I see the edges of the OB like train tracks to the pocket... The real power is seeing the "leg" of the triangle that the OB needs to travel down and burn it into your subconscious and let that do it's magic.
I would call it playing pool....
Pool Hand Luke
Well-known member
I aim just fine. What I would like is to get shape automatically.
Before you walk to the shot line, give yourself an absolute frame of reference and walk back to the line between the balls. Be perfectly perpendicular to this line, not air stroking with a foot forward, but nose/sternum/belly button on the line, feet together--again, for an absolute frame of reference.I'm not an instructor.
I can't describe my process very well, but I've hit an awful lot of balls. Basically I look through the center of the OB to where I want it to go into the pocket. I then go over/around to where I need to be in relation to the CB to come down onto the shot line.
I feel as if looking at the OB to pocket it helps me triangulate/see the angle/imagine the collision or hit without visual distortion. I can do it two ways, I can keep a pinpoint focus on the OB, or I can look at the part of the pocket I want it to go. It's basically applied trig, I can focus on either point of the triangle, but when I get into position and address/get down on the CB I am on the correct shot line. When I'm playing my best all the angle stuff is taken care of by my subconscious. I could shoot the wings off a gnat but don't ask me how, it just looks right. I might even have a small twitch in the ligaments on the top side of my bridge hand when everything is dead nuts.
Just knowing the angle/line from the OB to pocket lets me comfortably address the shot. I pretty much let my subconscious correctly get me down on the ball.
At that point it's all about making sure my stroke is straight and feels right. Sometimes I'll take practice strokes in the air to get an idea of how to stand to get my shoulder in line. If the stroke is straight on the line when up, I can then get down properly. It's not a textbook stance but I have terrible back problems so I just have to get a straight nice stroke and step into the shot address to where the stroke is straight.
If my back was the same from day to day I would probably not do air strokes, but it's hard to make sure you are mechanically stroking well (on line) when your stance changes day to day or hour to hour at some point.
EDIT: As far as a "contact point," sometimes I have one on the OB, sometimes I'm looking at the pocket, sometimes I just let the angle program into my mind's eye and let that be that. Sometimes I see the edges of the OB like train tracks to the pocket... The real power is seeing the "leg" of the triangle that the OB needs to travel down and burn it into your subconscious and let that do it's magic.
Next, ask yourself "how small an increment off this full hit is the cut, so the shot looks as thick as possible" rather than "get down onto the shot line". Shoot that seemingly thick cut softly, smoothly--try it.
Yep. Or, to get another perspective to see if the cue ball is going to clear possible blocking object ball and/or to better visualize the path that the cue ball will take after contact for subsequent shape.
Just because somebody doesn't use a conscious "system" doesn't mean that they're not a capable player interested in all those nuances that others are.
Note that I do use the term "conscious system". That's not to say there isn't some thought process going on that some could consider a "system" of some sort…
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I fully get what your saying and at one point I could do it. It took real work, but I got to the point that I pretty good fundamentals. Now my back varies so much day to day that it's just not likely to be correct. Air strokes let me calibrate and feel in my body, that day/moment, what is a straight stroke.Before you walk to the shot line, give yourself an absolute frame of reference and walk back to the line between the balls. Be perfectly perpendicular to this line, not air stroking with a foot forward, but nose/sternum/belly button on the line, feet together--again, for an absolute frame of reference.
Next, ask yourself "how small an increment off this full hit is the cut, so the shot looks as thick as possible" rather than "get down onto the shot line". Shoot that seemingly thick cut softly, smoothly--try it.
I have to see the line, then walk to where I should be. I'll do some strokes standing up and while getting in position. If they are in line, all is good. If they are off line or wobbly I know something is off physically. I'll go re-evaluate the OB to pocket and work back over keeping the air stroke going a bit. I might have to stretch my shoulder and back, which I'm sure looks bizarre, but it is what it is. When you can't trust your body to be consistent from moment to moment you have to calibrate a lot.
It's not ideal, it hampers my progress, but I'm just being realistic about it. Unless I get surgery or my back magically gets better I just have to adapt.
I'd never recommend my method to anyone but it works for the screwed up situation my back is in. I understand it's not "correct" but I know what is correct and that's enough, I can make it work. Luckily I can see when a shot is on and trust it, I just might have to get up and down more since there is no "default" to my body.
strokes standing up and while getting in position
Which means somedays your head is at X and somedays (some shots!) at Y. My method (actually a pro method I teach) has improved the shot making of any player who does it. ANY player.
BlueRaider
Registered
I would settle for hitting the cue ball exactly where I want every time...
Yes. Let your subconscious take over. Disengage your conscious mind.
How do you do that?
One common trick is to have a "trigger" in your preshot routine - like putting the chalk down on the rail after you've walked around and done all the thinking - to signal to your brain that it's time to stop thinking and start performing.
pj
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