is it possible to buy a searingcue for under 3-4 k

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If you played with one you would understand the price. Nothing can play like it although other makers can get the same quality wood and use the same taper but it just isnt the same. The same goes for my leather cue tips i sell. Yes they are $600 each and it takes me 6 months to make one but its a perfect leather tip and nothing comes close and if you have played with one you would understand and anyone who doesnt agree just hasnt used one. Get on my waiting list fast, wait times are increasing. :)
 
shortyz said:
If you played with one you would understand the price. Nothing can play like it although other makers can get the same quality wood and use the same taper but it just isnt the same. The same goes for my leather cue tips i sell. Yes they are $600 each and it takes me 6 months to make one but its a perfect leather tip and nothing comes close and if you have played with one you would understand and anyone who doesnt agree just hasnt used one. Get on my waiting list fast, wait times are increasing. :)
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Pretty much sums up this sarcastic post.

I don't think anyone here in Des Moines has a Searing unless Rick Goulden does which is very possible. I would like to hit with one some day for sure!
 

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I am on the list

I am one of the fortunate ones that is on Dennis' list. I spoke to him on the phone a few years back. He wanted to kind of interview me to be sure I wanted the cue. Not to resell.

We had a great conversation and he decided that I was sincere and I was put on the list. I am not sure what design I will choose. It will be something I will cherish and hope to pass on to my son(s) when the time comes.

I may be on the list for two cues, can't remember. I am sure Dennis will know when he calls me to say "It is TIME"
 
LOL


I paid $300 for a matching Searing shaft for the latest Gus cue I bought.

While it is an incredible shaft....I had a hard time paying the $300 for the shaft.

LOL

Ken
 
rigmaster said:
Yep he makes his own veneers , pins ,weight bolts etc... The wood is select no knots no fillers he mills his joint collars and inlays the stitch rather than stacking rings everything is threaded glued and screwed his ivory over stainless joint is just that a steel joint turned down threaded and an ivory sleeve it threaded and screwed over the stainless joint! The weight bolt is polished to a mirror finish and the bumper put on it. The inside of the stainless joint is polished better than the outside so it won't wear the pilot on the shaft and it will fit tighter than any other cue makers shaft. Dennis is the only cue maker I know of that uses the word precision in his company name Dennis Searing Precision cues!
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Good post.

Might I also add that Dennis is so selective in his pursuit of perfection he will only end up using 25 out of 100 A++++ grade shafts for his cues. He'll order 100 pieces of the highest rated shaft wood on the market and when it's all said and done only 25 of those are up to his standards. That's pretty strong right there.

He is able to make use of the other 75 pieces for veneers and such, I believe. They're just not cut out to be made into a shaft for one of his cues. I have 3 Searing shafts and 2 are unplayed. These are the most perfect shafts that I've ever seen. Laser straight, without even the slightest hint of a taper roll.

Perfection is what the man strives for and even then he still wants to keep improving. How do you improve something that already seems perfect? Dennis is always striving to do it even better the next time.
 
Badbeat13 said:
Good post.

Might I also add that Dennis is so selective in his pursuit of perfection he will only end up using 25 out of 100 A++++ grade shafts for his cues. He'll order 100 pieces of the highest rated shaft wood on the market and when it's all said and done only 25 of those are up to his standards. That's pretty strong right there.

He is able to make use of the other 75 pieces for veneers and such, I believe. They're just not cut out to be made into a shaft for one of his cues. I have 3 Searing shafts and 2 are unplayed. These are the most perfect shafts that I've ever seen. Laser straight, without even the slightest hint of a taper roll.

Perfection is what the man strives for and even then he still wants to keep improving. How do you improve something that already seems perfect? Dennis is always striving to do it even better the next time.
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Whats a new Searing shaft run?

I paid 300 for almost new, but used one.

Ken
 
Being in the camp of someone that is on some of the pricer lists and having owned several higher end cues I feel justified, if not qualified, to make this statement. People in this thread speak of searing cues as if they have been touched by the hands of Jesus or something - demigod status. At the end of the day it is still a cue. A cue that apparently plays so well,juxtapose to such low supply, that a plain jane can fetch 4K. I get it and when my son's college fund is better funded I hope to buy one. But perfection to even an infinitesimal degree of tolerances and selectiveness still just produces a cue at the end of the day.

It is fun to rank cue makers. I do it probably everyday but I suspect many people (most that may have never even owned one) getting a little carried away here, on both sides.

That is all.
 
Ken_4fun said:
Whats a new Searing shaft run?

I paid 300 for almost new, but used one.

Ken
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I'm not sure Ken. I aquired a Searing conversion about a month ago and it had 3 shafts. 2 were unplayed and 1 had been played. The 1st thing I did was roll the butt and the 3 shafts and they were all "laser straight'. I'm sure these shafts were made several years back, too. Someone kept 2 of them unplayed/unchalked and I'm trying to follow suit. It's hard to resist slapping some chalk on them. They're 13.15ish and really incredible. I have been using the other one, which is 12.8. That's perfect for most people, but I tend to play my best with a full 13+. That's why it's hard to just let them sit in the case. The good thing is that the 12.8 plays fantastic.

I have another Searing conversion on the way and I may get Dennis to make a 3rd shaft for it, I may know the answer pretty soon.

Best of rolls(I love that), Jerry
 
I still kick myself in the ASS for not buying a 4 point,4 veneer and inlaid Searing for 1300 in the late 90's. This cue was so special I'd pay double that based on PLAYABILITY alone.

I've never seen this particular Searing for sale on here,but would recognize it instantly.

All 3 of the cues of his I've hit balls with were GREAT players,but the one I'm talking about was just phenomenal.

I can't say if every cue he makes is worth what they sell for,because I haven't hit with all of them. Tommy D.
 
prewarhero said:
Being in the camp of someone that is on some of the pricer lists and having owned several higher end cues I feel justified, if not qualified, to make this statement. People in this thread speak of searing cues as if they have been touched by the hands of Jesus or something - demigod status. At the end of the day it is still a cue. A cue that apparently plays so well,juxtapose to such low supply, that a plain jane can fetch 4K. I get it and when my son's college fund is better funded I hope to buy one. But perfection to even an infinitesimal degree of tolerances and selectiveness still just produces a cue at the end of the day.

It is fun to rank cue makers. I do it probably everyday but I suspect many people (most that may have never even owned one) getting a little carried away here, on both sides.

That is all.
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Well, calling a Searing just a cue is like calling a Porsche just a car. Of course it's just a car but until someone drives one they will never understand exactly how it feels to handle something so special that it defies words.

I don't KNOW if Searings are the best hitting cues in the world. I know this though. I was in the house of a prominent collector who himself can play a little and I asked him point blank, surrounded by the BEST cues ever made, which one he would keep if they all had to go but one. Without a trace of hesitation he said Searing. And this man is no fool. He isn't swayed by hype and BS, he doesn't follow the herd ON ANYTHING, he won't touch a cue he doesn't believe in.

So for me that was the strongest testimonial right there.

You're right, at the end of the day perfect execution still produces a pool cue. But how much different is that cue than other cues? Well, I guess that is something each person has to find out for themselves. Dennis Searing's work though has actually earned the praise given them as far as I am concerned.

Whether the cues are "worth" so much more than Dennis actually charges, which may or may not be the case now, is a matter of debate. But what they definitely are is prime examples of supply and demand and things being worth what people will pay.
 
HendryMBE said:
I am one of the fortunate ones that is on Dennis' list. I spoke to him on the phone a few years back. He wanted to kind of interview me to be sure I wanted the cue. Not to resell.

We had a great conversation and he decided that I was sincere and I was put on the list. I am not sure what design I will choose. It will be something I will cherish and hope to pass on to my son(s) when the time comes.

I may be on the list for two cues, can't remember. I am sure Dennis will know when he calls me to say "It is TIME"
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Don.t get in to much of a rush,I went through the interview process also,7yrs ago and still haven't gotten the call:eek:,if he does call happy days are here,if not I still have my South West's:thumbup:
 
CMD said:
Lol...How big were the glasses? :eek:


You have made 6 posts bashing Dennis and his cues. Do you actually think all of his cues go on AZ Billiards? How do you know what he produces and for who?

You sound like so many on here who can't get a cue from Dennis. I'm with ya, but instead of bashing him I bought cues on the secondary market. And I didn't get any discounts. Everybody has choices in what to buy, but why are you so bitter?


Good call on looking at Sean's cue. :thumbup: I'd like to see many of those cuemakers make that one.

There are some beasts out there that nobody has seen.




EDIT: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=197122
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Heck Chris your"Merry Widow"is one of the finest cues on this planet,I quote because it is not just a plain cue!!!hope to see it in a few days!!!
 
Chris' Searing player

01rkclassic said:
Heck Chris your"Merry Widow"is one of the finest cues on this planet,I quote because it is not just a plain cue!!!hope to see it in a few days!!!
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Hell Chris's Searing player is so nice, "so rare",and I don't even have to hit with it to know it plays because it does. You may say well if you don't hit with it how do you know it plays? It's easy ;

1. It's a full custom Searing
2. Chris Said it does
3. I know it does because every one I've played with did
4. Never seen a Searing that didn't play
5. His construction technique
6. His theory about cues
7. Dennis himself can play Better than most people so he tends to know how a cue should play
8. Materials are top picks
9. List goes on and on

Most people cut or knock down something that they know very little about or do not understand

THAT'S WHY I OFFERED CHRIS OVER 6k FOR HIS PLAYER WITHOUT HESITATION BUT HE'S SMART ENOUGH NOT TO SELL IT BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWING FACTS N MORE
 
calibration said:
So I've had a couple perfect margaritas and just finished an awesome steak on the deck so it's time to let honesty prevail.... Searings are probably the absolute most overrated cues on the market period.....it's all about who you know.. His quality is no better than anybody else actually his ability to stretch the design capabilities outside of 4 points and a couple inlays are not there. Lets stop the crap of trying to tell people that shit tastes great and pay for it,..... The market on cues has dropped because of crap like this.....
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Green for you sir. Very very true. But...
Those who wants to have a collection should not miss a cheap (5k) Searing. That's the problem. Because he makes maybe 2 cues/year he became the Holly Grail of cuemaking. Tony at BB also.
I had 2 Searing cues when my collection was sold 1 year ago. They went under Gina and Gus even Tascarela in that deal and the guy who bought everything has over 100 big cues. He told me it should be like this because tradition and experience should always beat exclusiveness.
I do believe he was right.
Sorry for offtopic.
Free bump....but mark my words: you won't regret the investment if you'll decide to buy a nice JossWest or a Hercek/Tascarela/Gina/Tad. You'll have a ln amazing player and a collectible cue.

All the best.
Sent from my SCH-I535
 
devorator said:
That's the problem. Because he makes maybe 2 cues/year he became the Holly Grail of cuemaking. Tony at BB also.
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2 cues per year... you are stating that like you know it to be a fact. Most of Searing's cues are never seen by the general public. Searing cues are sought out because of the precision and detail he puts into them, not solely on supply and demand.

devorator said:
I had 2 Searing cues when my collection was sold 1 year ago. They went under Gina and Gus even Tascarela in that deal and the guy who bought everything has over 100 big cues. He told me it should be like this because tradition and experience should always beat exclusiveness.
I do believe he was right.
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I would have to disagree... unless tradition and experience equate to masterful design, execution, and detail.
 
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Worminator said:
2 cues per year... you are stating that like you know it to be a fact. Most of Searing's cues are never seen by the general public. Searing cues are sought out because of the precision and detail he puts into them, not solely on supply and demand.
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It's not "like I know"...I do know...and yes I am "general public"!


I would have to disagree... unless tradition and experience equate to masterful design, execution, and detail.
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If you take the red pill... I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes...
 
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I know Dennis rarely (and I can't blame him) posts on here, but maybe he can chime in on how many cues he makes a year along with anything else he thinks needs clarified. 2 does seem like a small # of cues to make a year. The smallest # I have seen a cuemaker post on here that they make is an estimated 10 a year (can't remember who it was though). He doesn't set the sell price in the market on his cues so he should absolutely not be blasted for something out of his control.
 
10 cues a year.....it has to be KENNY KOO.....THE FLYING SNAIL FOR SURE.:thumbup:
 
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