Fatboy said:
I couldn't agree more !
Is it wrong to use Ivory in cues??
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I couldn't agree more !
supergreenman said:
Oh and why is that? have you run out of excuses with regards to your moral grounds? It is embarrassing to think that you believe or convince yourself that you got my point. well, you didn't, not even an inch of a fingernail! and what happened to your Lying and Stealing argument? First you mentioned these things that has nothing to do with Ivory and now you are talking about endangered species! I guess your definition of endangered species is a population of animals less than 100 thousand (LOL). I believe that you ass is doing all the thinking than your brain. I believe you don't even know the meaning of conscience ! oh and don't bother to reason out your driving coz that's pure hypocrisy. If you are really that concerned, you should be willing to sacrifice. lemme ask you, how much volume of Carbon Monoxide do you contribute every year that doesn't impact the environment? yeah right, talking about self righteousness, whatever !
I couldn't believe that this greendude is more concerned about animals rather than wood. go to animal planet, you're on the wrong channel !
no arguments allowed, please. i dont want to be the $hit starter, were pool players not echologists, they have their oun message boards. as do the hunters. stick to pool not morals, were pool players
I lost my morals first time I hustled some one for a C-note
I lost my morals first time I hustled some one for a C-note
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Fatboy said:no arguments allowed, please. i dont want to be the $hit starter, were pool players not echologists, they have their oun message boards. as do the hunters. stick to pool not morals, were pool players
I lost my morals first time I hustled some one for a C-note
NOTE TAKEN
, Now, enuff with greendude's bullcrap !
Anna Nicole Smith Is Officially Dead !!!
Sport???
Originally Posted by Fatboy
i go elephant hunting every year, they have been doing game counts for around 100 years and your 100% correct there are more elephants than ever, when they are shot in the head they feel nothing and drop, i have personally shot 14 elephants, there is a Govt official with us at all times it is strictly regulated, it is legai in Zimbabwe to use lethal force on elephant poachers. atll the meat is fed to the people there no protein goes to waste in africa.
ivory in cues is fine as lonfg at it has the CITIES paperwork to prove it was a sport hunted elephant.
How Do you call this a Sport ?
The elephants can not Shoot back at you!
But maybe in the future they will ?
Originally Posted by Fatboy
i go elephant hunting every year, they have been doing game counts for around 100 years and your 100% correct there are more elephants than ever, when they are shot in the head they feel nothing and drop, i have personally shot 14 elephants, there is a Govt official with us at all times it is strictly regulated, it is legai in Zimbabwe to use lethal force on elephant poachers. atll the meat is fed to the people there no protein goes to waste in africa.
ivory in cues is fine as lonfg at it has the CITIES paperwork to prove it was a sport hunted elephant.
How Do you call this a Sport ?
The elephants can not Shoot back at you!
But maybe in the future they will ?
mmwtdh said:
Yeah, they could have been a good source for Ivory !!!
Not to mention the Woolly Mammoths !!!
Tank138 said:Originally Posted by Fatboy
i go elephant hunting every year, they have been doing game counts for around 100 years and your 100% correct there are more elephants than ever, when they are shot in the head they feel nothing and drop, i have personally shot 14 elephants, there is a Govt official with us at all times it is strictly regulated, it is legai in Zimbabwe to use lethal force on elephant poachers. atll the meat is fed to the people there no protein goes to waste in africa.
ivory in cues is fine as lonfg at it has the CITIES paperwork to prove it was a sport hunted elephant.
How Do you call this a Sport ?
The elephants can not Shoot back at you!
But maybe in the future they will ?
Dude, it's not a sport. it's a game !
the game is not about the elephants shooting back, they are suppose to catch bullets !!!
Dude, it's not even close to a bigger issue. The deforestation is not caused by loggers, it's caused by farmers clearing land for crops. The amount of exotic wood lost to burning in this case is huge. I'm a woodworker and I know.Fatboy said:
Put me down for a no on the ivory if it's not determined to be pre-1976.
Brian in VA
4 pages already and most of it deals with the shooting of elephants.
Considering the thread title this is unimportant.
A very good cuemaker informed you about the wonderful ivory substitute ELFORYN and obviously nobody noticed it.
Judging by the pictures on their homepage you can hardly tell whether it's real ivory or ELFORYN, not even under black light as it it flourescent like real ivory!
Boys at Eurowest, build me an ebony-wooden cue with Elforyn and turqouise inlays for 500€ please
I'd rather go for a Mezz as money is the limitating factor
Considering the thread title this is unimportant.
A very good cuemaker informed you about the wonderful ivory substitute ELFORYN and obviously nobody noticed it.
Judging by the pictures on their homepage you can hardly tell whether it's real ivory or ELFORYN, not even under black light as it it flourescent like real ivory!
Boys at Eurowest, build me an ebony-wooden cue with Elforyn and turqouise inlays for 500€ please
I'd rather go for a Mezz as money is the limitating factor
Hail Mary Shot said:Dude, it's not a sport. it's a game !
the game is not about the elephants shooting back, they are suppose to catch bullets !!!
African elephants unlike asian elephants see you and will charge and kill you instantly, approaching them is dangerous business, i have hunted for 30 days straight and not seen a shootable bull but approached many heards in thick bush, there is alot of skill involved, were not sitting in a pick-up shooting milk cows which are harmless, you cant out run a charging elephant they will do a mock charge once in a while but when they come there is no stopping them, i'm not giving elephant hunting lessions but its dangerous and not for the faint of heart, now the asian elephants are wonderful nice animals i love them, they also have very little ivory. I have been charged 2 time in 6 months in the bush both time by cow elephants, we shot them and trust me its an adreneline rush, getgoose bumps just typing this.
Elephant hunting is like playing nine ball for $5000/rack impala hunting is like playing for the table time. to put perspective on it.
All the meat is eaten by the indeginous people from many different tribes, they get veery happy when an elephant is hunted, they lose family members every year to elephants, they dont have cars and walk on trails if you accidently walk up on an elephant ,,,game over they just kill you its rare for an elephant in africa to run unless its a young bull they are harmless and will run, in agrica we refer to them as "Jumos" or young bulls. the fat inside their gastronal tract is rendered down in to cooking oil, and some of the entrails are eaten as well, they "rack" the meat, it basically cures it so they can store it because they have no refrigators. The trophy fee pays the game scouts who work for the Govt to create anti-poaching groups. These conservation effortshave ben very successful for the past 30 years.
Look and see how much a elephant skin cue case costs, $1,000 thats because thehunter spent $50,000 for a 21 day hunt, and thats why ivory is so expensive, in africa the locals want the meat(nyma) and we here want the skin and ivory, all this leads to the demand to shoot elephants. Is it wrong that these skinny people eat what was shot or are we the bad guys because we like ivory ferrals?
trust me they control the cgame counts so carefully because they need the $$ and shooting out any species would kill the industry. We only shoot old animals, not reproductive animals so that way the gene pool isnt affected.
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vin said:
the cueballs used before in pool were made out of Ivory.
Fwiw
Har har, snicker it up pal. LOL. Yeah that was me, thanks. Since you didn't read the thread carefully, most thought it was at least a legitimate question, and I said I was asking mostly out of curiosity. I did confess that I MIGHT use that information when looking to buy a cue later. Never said that the answer was needed before I could get a cue made.
If you needed clarification, you could have just posted to that thread. For the most part, I took the time to explain where I was coming from to the few who decided to twist my words or ride me for asking a simple question.
Meh, no hard feelings though.
seymore15074 said:This makes me laugh...there was a thread a while back of someone asking about which cuemakers would not use ivory, so they could get a cue made...snickering to myself, all I can think is what's next? A vegetarian that wants to find a cuemaker that doesn't eat meat to make their cue?!
Har har, snicker it up pal. LOL. Yeah that was me, thanks. Since you didn't read the thread carefully, most thought it was at least a legitimate question, and I said I was asking mostly out of curiosity. I did confess that I MIGHT use that information when looking to buy a cue later. Never said that the answer was needed before I could get a cue made.
If you needed clarification, you could have just posted to that thread. For the most part, I took the time to explain where I was coming from to the few who decided to twist my words or ride me for asking a simple question.
Meh, no hard feelings though.