Is Jose Parica ever going to make it into the hall?

JAM said:
SJM, the titles Efren is winning or has won were not around at the time Jose was in his prime on the tournament trail.
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This is not correct. Jose is five years older than Efren, but they were contemporaries. They were in their primes together, and the list of tournaments in which both played would fill the encyclopedia.
 
sjm said:
This is not correct. Jose is five years older than Efren, but they were contemporaries. They were in their primes together, and the list of tournaments in which both played would fill the encyclopedia.
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This is not what Jose stated to me. He says his prime was *before* Efren. But I guess it's water under the bridge now, right? The only thing that matters is what makes the BCA Hall of Fame voting committee members happy. :smile:
 
In the words of Jose Parica himself, "If the voting was done by the players, I'd already be in there".

I wholeheartedly agree.
 
I am too young to know about Parica's history first-hand, but he has been one of my favorites since I started learning about pool. Consider this my vote for his induction.

-Blake

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Jose Parica is a warrior and unrepentant, my understanding is that he was golden gloves fighter in his youth. Efren beyond his preternatural abilities at pool has a personality rarely seen in someone so competative. It is my understanding that for the money, great hall of famers like Mike Segal bit the dust under the onslaught of the determined bantam wieght filipino.

It is my feeling that if Jose had exercised a modicum of self deprecation he would have already been a member of this august institution. But then a rooster has to crow or he would not be a rooster.
 
peteypooldude said:
We could throw an"AZ Billiards Hell Fit" :eek:
Whose toes do we need to step on lol :D
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I think this is a good idea.
I feel AZ made a difference for Danny Diliberto's induction.
Jose Parica is eligible for the same category.

JOSE FOR THE HALL
:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
Pool world is politics , you have your own guys , the others belong to the other groups, and Jose is neither of them,, did you see him play in Prestigous Invitational events like World pool masters and etc. I GUESS NOT , why bcoz those groups has their own players like Reyes and Bustamante fot the philippines And other players from different country..who receives the invitaion to play ,,,, Aristeo Puyat the manager of Reyes and Bustamante..so how can You win a Prestigious tournaments when your not there playing and not invited? Why always Reyes and Bustamante bcoz they live there and Jose lives here , second is that Puyat , Reyes and Bustamante are from the same province..
 
Cdryden said:
Why is he not in there? Did him piss someone off or what? He has been a top finisher in a multitude of major events, a major force to contend with in almost any money game for a good 2 decades. A solid all around player. A long set monster and a legitimate threat to win any tournament he entered for a good 30 years.

So what gives?
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Answer: bad timing. Plane (Plain) and simple.


Freddie <~~~ campaigning for Parica
 
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Cdryden said:
I just don't get it. I'm not trying to slam anyone that has already made it but in my opinion he is more deserving than some that are already there. I've lost count of how many books by former road player who have said something to the effect, "Back then I was beating everybody for the cash.....well, except Parica".

It just has me thinking that it may be something personal rather than merit alone. Maybe some consider his gambling as more of a negative and feel that it out weighs his professional career. But look at the HOF list, it's almost made up of people who spent a good part of their career gambling at pool so that doesn't seem right either.

Jay, (or anyone else in the know) got any thoughts on this?
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The BCA Hall of Fame inductees are voted in by the USBMA as of about 7 years ago. Like other Hall of Fames that don't get voted in by a points system like the LPGA, the BCA Hall of Fame is voted in by writers and media. This is how Baseball and Football are voted in.

There are problems with the current method, but the current method is better than the previous.

As I said in my other post, Jose's lack of induction is bad timing. We now have a good vehicle to get him in, but there are other superstars who are just getting eligible. The eligibility criteria has changed (e.g., age has been raised to 40 years old minimum).

In order to get some of the older players that may have been over-looked, a Veteran's Category was formed (Danny Diliberto was the first in the Veteran's Category). Unfortunately, Jose' is now relegated to that category which only comes up every other year.

Jose' in my opinion had a better chance to get in these past two years but some of the changes have snake bit his chances.

If you look at the voters, there are plenty of voting members that know exactly who Jose' Parica is and what he means to our sport. Bad Timing.

Freddie <~~~ votes for Jose' every year
 
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Cornerman said:
Answer: bad timing. Plane and simple.


Freddie <~~~ campaigning for Parica
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And bad rep. Sorry, fact.
Jose also could not get sponsorship to the WPA World 9-ball events year in and year out while Efren and Busta did.
JAM said:
This is not what Jose stated to me. He says his prime was *before* Efren. But I guess it's water under the bridge now, right? The only thing that matters is what makes the BCA Hall of Fame voting committee members happy. :smile:
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Efren won his first US Open in '94.
Jose probably had better chances winning it before '94 but he would have had to deal with Varner, Sigel and Earl on a small field.
Jose did get to the finals of US Open twice in the early 2000's and lost to JJ and Alex.
He was player of the year in '96 iirc but the year after that, he did not get in the money round of any Camel tour stop.
Ronnie Allen might get in before Jose does ( if he does ).
 
JoeyInCali said:
And bad rep. Sorry, fact..
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I'm not sure why you say this or why you say "sorry, fact...", because it's not why he's not been voted in. There is no "Hey, let's not vote for Parica" meetings or campaigns. He's received votes every year up until he was moved to Veterans Category.
 
Cornerman said:
I'm not sure why you say this or why you say "sorry, fact...", because it's not why he's not been voted in. There is no "Hey, let's not vote for Parica" meetings or campaigns. He's received votes every year up until he was moved to Veterans Category.
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He would have gotten in way before if he had a better rep.
Whether it's deserved or not.
If he had a better rep, he would have had better sponsorship too.
He was not sponsored by Puyat Sports . Puyat Sports took care of Efren and Busta's plane tickets to major tournaments back in the 90's.

Jose should have been in the hall already imo, btw.
 
Francisco Bustamante has quite an incredible resume despite coming in runner-up in several of his quest for glory but most importantly he has managed to capture titles which mattered the most even at this stage in his career and showing that he's still capable of snatching major tournaments. Coupled with his talent in action matches, there's no surprise imo why he's ahead of Jose in the Hall of Fame. Not to say that Parica does not deserve similar accolades, they both certainly proven their worth in their long respected careers. However, Busty showed how it's done globally and a case was made easier for Busty than Parica I suppose just merely basing on the more prominent accomplishments he has over the latter imo.

Titles and achievements

2013 Derby City Classic Master of the Table[15]
2013 Derby City Classic Banks Division[16]
2013 Southern Classic 9-Ball Ring Game[17]
2013 4th Annual Chet Itow Memorial 9-Ball[18]
2013 4th Annual White Diamond Super 9-Ball[19]
2013 NJ State 10-Ball Championship[20]
2013 Mezz Pro Am Tour (Stop 9)[21]
2012 West Coast Challenge One Pocket Event[22]
2012 West Coast Challenge 10-Ball Event[23]
2010 Billiard Congress of America Hall of Fame
2010 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship[24]
2010 Japan Open Men's Division[25]
2010 Asia vs Europe Challenge Match[26]
2010 Chuck Markulis Memorial[27]
2009 World Cup of Pool (with Efren Reyes)[28]
2008 Derby City Classic Master of the Table[29]
2008 Blaze ABCD 9-Ball Tour (Stop 15)[30]
2008 Blaze ABCD 9-Ball Tour (Stop 14)[31]
2007 Hard Times Summer Jamboree (One-Pocket Division)[32]
2007 Hard Times Summer Jamboree (Nine-Ball Division)[33]
2007 UPA US Pro Tour Champion[34]
2007 Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory Bumper Pool Champion
2006 World Cup of Pool (with Efren Reyes)[35]
2005 Masters 9-Ball Champion[36]
2005 All-Filipino Billiards Open[37]
2005 Weert Open Ten-Ball Ring Game[38]
2005 Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour - Turning Stone Classic V[39]
2004 World Pool League[40]
2004 Falcon Cue 9-Ball Tour Open Division (Stop 11)[41]
2003 ESPN International Challenge of Champions[42]
2003 Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour (Stop 16)[43]
2003 Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour (Stop 15)[44]
2003 Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour (Stop 2)[45]
2002 All Japan Championship[38]
2002 IBC Tokyo 9-Ball International[46]
2002 IBC Tour Munich Open (Stop 2)[47]
2002 ESPN Sudden Death Seven-Ball Tournament[48]
2002 Gabriels Las Vegas Intvitational[49]
2002 Peninsula 9-Ball Open[50]
2002 Motolite World 9-Ball Challenge[51]
2001 World Pool Masters[52]
2001 Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour - Turning Stone Classic II[53]
2001 Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour (Stop 1)[54]
2000 Motolite International Nine-Ball Championship[55]
2000 Eurotour (German Open)[38]
1999 ESPN International Challenge of Champions[38]
1999 Camel Tulsa Nine-Ball Open[38]
1998 World Pool Masters[56]
1998 Eurotour (German Open)[38]
1998 Camel Riviera Eight-Ball Open[38]
1998 Camel Tulsa Nine-Ball Open[38]
1998 Camel Columbus Ten-Ball Open[38]
1998 Sands Regency Open 28[38]
1997 Camel Kasson Open[38]
1997 Camel Denver Open[38]
1993 PBT Bicycle Club Invitational[38]

other notable finishes

3rd Place IPT World 8-Ball OPEN 2006 (US$ 500,000 1st place prize won by Efren)
2nd Place World 9-Ball Championship 2002
3rd Place US Open 9-Ball 2005
2nd Place US Open 10-Ball Championship 2012
2nd Place DCC One-Pocket Division 2013
 
JoeyInCali said:
He would have gotten in way before if he had a better rep.
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I still don't know why you say this. Maybe I'm not saying it clearly. Maybe I should just say there is no justification to say that he would have gotten in way before if he had a better rep.

All of the made up reasons don't help and just adds unnecessary fuel.
 
Hey joey if you don't like Jose just Shut up , you don't have to say he has bad reputation .why maybe he kicked your ass many times? Why his reputation does not meet your standards? Eat your good reputation and remember this **** YOU ASS HOLE..REMEMBER ME OK..DONT EVER FORGET ME ..
 
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