Is Mr. Wilson GOD?

bstroud said:
I see you have chosen not to post my thread?

Bill Stroud


Are you talking about this:
Is Mr. Wilson GOD?

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I don't know who AKA Mr. Wilson is and I have no idea who Christy? is but I know Jimbo.

I am a cuemaker and he does not buy my cues BUT he is always straight forward and honest in the things he says.

I don't always agree with him but I value his opinion and I support his right to say what he thinks.

The internet is one of the last vestiges of freedom in this world and without voices like JIMBOS' we all suffer a great loss.

Bill Stroud



It's in the R.I.P. JimBo thread....
Doug
 
flash backs

Smorgass Bored said:
Are you talking about this:
Is Mr. Wilson GOD?

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I don't know who AKA Mr. Wilson is and I have no idea who Christy? is but I know Jimbo.

I am a cuemaker and he does not buy my cues BUT he is always straight forward and honest in the things he says.

I don't always agree with him but I value his opinion and I support his right to say what he thinks.

The internet is one of the last vestiges of freedom in this world and without voices like JIMBOS' we all suffer a great loss.

Bill Stroud



It's in the R.I.P. JimBo thread....
Doug
i thought i was losing it when i saw that over there earlier. flash backs:eek: :eek: :eek:
M.C.
 
curlyscues said:
i thought i was losing it when i saw that over there earlier. flash backs:eek: :eek: :eek:
M.C.
No flashbacks... he did the same thing to me earlier. He demanded that "we" find out why a forum member was upset and then locked the thread. I started a new thread in order to respond to the locked thread and clarify that the forum member had been mistaken. He inserted that post in the locked thread and deleted the thread that I started.
 
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I don't understand all the confusion. Perhaps I'm a little simple. I am under the impression that we are all members of a forum which we signed up for. When I signed up I agreed to abide by this forums rules. If I decide to break the rules, which are clearly posted, I would expect to forfeit my membership. In fact that is what I agreed to when I signed up.

I'm sure there are opinions that will differ from the owners or the moderators as well as between members, and those differences should be welcomed. However implying the management of this site are Nazis and other name calling shouldn't be tolerated. I have seen several people banned and almost all of them have acted in a very similar manner and got similar results.

Like I said, maybe I'm just simple.
 
You make a good point here.

Martin


djkx1 said:
I don't understand all the confusion. Perhaps I'm a little simple. I am under the impression that we are all members of a forum which we signed up for. When I signed up I agreed to abide by this forums rules. If I decide to break the rules, which are clearly posted, I would expect to forfeit my membership. In fact that is what I agreed to when I signed up.

I'm sure there are opinions that will differ from the owners or the moderators as well as between members, and those differences should be welcomed. However implying the management of this site are Nazis and other name calling shouldn't be tolerated. I have seen several people banned and almost all of them have acted in a very similar manner and got similar results.

Like I said, maybe I'm just simple.
 
djkx1 said:
I don't understand all the confusion. Perhaps I'm a little simple. I am under the impression that we are all members of a forum which we signed up for. When I signed up I agreed to abide by this forums rules. If I decide to break the rules, which are clearly posted, I would expect to forfeit my membership. In fact that is what I agreed to when I signed up.

I'm sure there are opinions that will differ from the owners or the moderators as well as between members, and those differences should be welcomed. However implying the management of this site are Nazis and other name calling shouldn't be tolerated. I have seen several people banned and almost all of them have acted in a very similar manner and got similar results.

Like I said, maybe I'm just simple.
If only things stayed simple.
Well spoken, good rep for your clear words.
 
djkx1 said:
I don't understand all the confusion. Perhaps I'm a little simple. I am under the impression that we are all members of a forum which we signed up for. When I signed up I agreed to abide by this forums rules. If I decide to break the rules, which are clearly posted, I would expect to forfeit my membership. In fact that is what I agreed to when I signed up.

I'm sure there are opinions that will differ from the owners or the moderators as well as between members, and those differences should be welcomed. However implying the management of this site are Nazis and other name calling shouldn't be tolerated. I have seen several people banned and almost all of them have acted in a very similar manner and got similar results.

Like I said, maybe I'm just simple.

Well said. I could not agree more. We are all guests here on this forum. It is NOT our democratic right to say or do whatever the hell we want. Jimbo was warned and he dismissed the warning. He was not wronged. He earned his dismissal.
 
Smorgass Bored said:
Is Mr. Wilson GOD ?


Hmmmmm, let's see:
God is Love.
Love is blind.
Stevie Wonder is blind.
Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

Doug

LOL.
Further proof that multiple truths can be combined to created falsehood. As people so often do.
 
Smorgass Bored said:
Is Mr. Wilson GOD ?


Hmmmmm, let's see:
God is Love.
Love is blind.
Stevie Wonder is blind.
Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

Doug


And god spelled backward is????? :D
 
djkx1 said:
I don't understand all the confusion. Perhaps I'm a little simple. I am under the impression that we are all members of a forum which we signed up for. When I signed up I agreed to abide by this forums rules. If I decide to break the rules, which are clearly posted, I would expect to forfeit my membership. In fact that is what I agreed to when I signed up.

I'm sure there are opinions that will differ from the owners or the moderators as well as between members, and those differences should be welcomed. However implying the management of this site are Nazis and other name calling shouldn't be tolerated. I have seen several people banned and almost all of them have acted in a very similar manner and got similar results.

Like I said, maybe I'm just simple.
I agree completely.
 
djkx1 said:
I don't understand all the confusion. Perhaps I'm a little simple. I am under the impression that we are all members of a forum which we signed up for. When I signed up I agreed to abide by this forums rules. If I decide to break the rules, which are clearly posted, I would expect to forfeit my membership. In fact that is what I agreed to when I signed up.

I'm sure there are opinions that will differ from the owners or the moderators as well as between members, and those differences should be welcomed. However implying the management of this site are Nazis and other name calling shouldn't be tolerated. I have seen several people banned and almost all of them have acted in a very similar manner and got similar results.

Like I said, maybe I'm just simple.

Let me try to shed some light on your confusion.

When I signed up for AZ, there was no Mr. Wilson. He is a very recent phenomenon. Mike hired him to clean up the forum when the membership became too large and too unruly for Mike to moderate himself.

Dave made some right decisions and some wrong ones, but his method was inconsistent and personal...I would go so far as to call it abrasive and confrontational.

This is not his fault: he was poorly chosen for a task, and his effort is certainly commendable. In fact, he probably logs in more hours policing this forum than we could imagine. But that doesn't change the fact that he is unfit for the job.

I'll give you an example: Someone made death threats against a fellow azb member: warned. That same person continued to insinuate physical violence on more than one occasion: more warnings insued. Jimbo made a generalization about idiots posting their idiotic views: BANNED. So what if Jimbo frequently insults people over their cue designs, or their cue value assessments? The other guy THREATENED TO KILL SOMEONE WITH HIS GUN.

Where is the logic in that kind of moderation? There is none. That is why you see 8 pages of Bring Back Jimbo on the main forum. That's why previously uncontroversial members are taking a stand, right here and now, because they realize this place is being destroyed by this kind of flippant management, and these are posters (like Jimbo, like myself) who've been here since the begining.

So, I hope this clarifies things a little bit. We love this forum, we're responding to a banishment that will result in a great loss of knowledge and personality on AZB.

-Roger
 
buddha162 said:
Let me try to shed some light on your confusion.

When I signed up for AZ, there was no Mr. Wilson. He is a very recent phenomenon. Mike hired him to clean up the forum when the membership became too large and too unruly for Mike to moderate himself.

Dave made some right decisions and some wrong ones, but his method was inconsistent and personal...I would go so far as to call it abrasive and confrontational.

This is not his fault: he was poorly chosen for a task, and his effort is certainly commendable. In fact, he probably logs in more hours policing this forum than we could imagine. But that doesn't change the fact that he is unfit for the job.

I'll give you an example: Someone made death threats against a fellow azb member: warned. That same person continued to insinuate physical violence on more than one occasion: more warnings insued. Jimbo made a generalization about idiots posting their idiotic views: BANNED. So what if Jimbo frequently insults people over their cue designs, or their cue value assessments? The other guy THREATENED TO KILL SOMEONE WITH HIS GUN.

Where is the logic in that kind of moderation? There is none. That is why you see 8 pages of Bring Back Jimbo on the main forum. That's why previously uncontroversial members are taking a stand, right here and now, because they realize this place is being destroyed by this kind of flippant management, and these are posters (like Jimbo, like myself) who've been here since the begining.

So, I hope this clarifies things a little bit. We love this forum, we're responding to a banishment that will result in a great loss of knowledge and personality on AZB.

-Roger

I respectfully disagree with your opinion, Roger, but you are certainly entitled to the way you feel. That's for sure! :)

I do not desire to do a cut-and-paste of posts which have targeted me personally. These posts, BTW, were problematic, harassing in nature, mean-spirited, insulting, and rude by the offending party.

I NEVER, NEVER, NEVER responded to the multiple posts by that offending party, here on AzBilliards Discussion Forum targeting me, in the last 3 to 4 years until a recent thread in which he then brings my boyfriend's name into the thread. A long and very ugly thread ensued. It was insulting, rude, problematic, and harassing in nature, totally directed at me personally. And it didn't stop with one post.

At the time, I could not elaborate and reply to the offending party in full, the way I would like to, because there were politics involved. Eventually, the thread died, and so did my boyfriend's desire to contribute to this forum.

I have enjoyed reading Mr. Wilson's posts LONG BEFORE he became moderator. He was an excellent contributing member to AzBilliards LONG BEFORE he became moderator.

I may be the sole minority voice on this topic, but this is my opinion. I do not mean for my post to be mean-spirited to anyone. I just offer it as a differing point of view on the topic.

JAM
 
JAM said:
I have enjoyed reading Mr. Wilson's posts LONG BEFORE he became moderator. He was an excellent contributing member to AzBilliards LONG BEFORE he became moderator.

JAM, I want to emphasize that I have NO DOUBT Mr. Wilso was an excellent member, and I have come to like him as a person even while I disagree with his moderating style. I also recognize the hard, thankless work it is being a moderator on this forum. As you may remember, Dave and I (and many others) had a rough start...and I wish it never came to this but banning someone with such a long and rich history as Jimbo will have its consequences...thus the 10 page thread pleading on Jimbo's behalf.

I have no idea what transpired to keep you and Keith from AZB, but I am sorry to hear it happened.

-Roger
 
buddha162 said:
JAM, I want to emphasize that I have NO DOUBT Mr. Wilso was an excellent member, and I have come to like him as a person even while I disagree with his moderating style. I also recognize the hard, thankless work it is being a moderator on this forum. As you may remember, Dave and I (and many others) had a rough start...and I wish it never came to this but banning someone with such a long and rich history as Jimbo will have its consequences...thus the 10 page thread pleading on Jimbo's behalf.

I have no idea what transpired to keep you and Keith from AZB, but I am sorry to hear it happened.

Roger, I appreciate your kind reply! I remember those threads you speak of in the non-pool-related section.

About a year ago in the non-pool-related section, the offending party called me a horrible name. I had not posted in the thread, but I read it. Later, because of other negativity in the thread, it was deleted.

Rude Dog immediately replied to the offending party and told him, in so many words, to lay off calling me the horrible name. Again, I was not even posting in the referenced thread. Yet, the offending party felt the need to post a one-liner, which was calling me a name. For what purpose? It was rude, problematic, and harassing in nature.

Again, I ignored the name-calling at that time in an effort to not initiate a flame, but believe me, it happened, and it was not the first time and it was not the last time.

I could list several other instances in which the offending party targeted me personally, and then, in an effort to antagonize, harasss, and instigate, he brought my boyfriend's name into the thread. My boyfriend was an innocent party and did not deserve the thrashing that ensued. The end result is that he no longer participates on AzBilliards. You can read into that whatever you want, but that is the absolute stone-cold truth.

Again, Roger, I thank you for your kind reply and doing so in a polite manner. I understand your expressed thoughts. I just do not agree with them on this topic in particular because of firsthand personal experience.

JAM
 
buddha162 said:
Let me try to shed some light on your confusion.

When I signed up for AZ, there was no Mr. Wilson. He is a very recent phenomenon. Mike hired him to clean up the forum when the membership became too large and too unruly for Mike to moderate himself.

Dave made some right decisions and some wrong ones, but his method was inconsistent and personal...I would go so far as to call it abrasive and confrontational.

This is not his fault: he was poorly chosen for a task, and his effort is certainly commendable. In fact, he probably logs in more hours policing this forum than we could imagine. But that doesn't change the fact that he is unfit for the job.

I'll give you an example: Someone made death threats against a fellow azb member: warned. That same person continued to insinuate physical violence on more than one occasion: more warnings insued. Jimbo made a generalization about idiots posting their idiotic views: BANNED. So what if Jimbo frequently insults people over their cue designs, or their cue value assessments? The other guy THREATENED TO KILL SOMEONE WITH HIS GUN.

Where is the logic in that kind of moderation? There is none. That is why you see 8 pages of Bring Back Jimbo on the main forum. That's why previously uncontroversial members are taking a stand, right here and now, because they realize this place is being destroyed by this kind of flippant management, and these are posters (like Jimbo, like myself) who've been here since the begining.

So, I hope this clarifies things a little bit. We love this forum, we're responding to a banishment that will result in a great loss of knowledge and personality on AZB.

-Roger


Well said.
 
djkx1 said:
However implying the management of this site are Nazis and other name calling shouldn't be tolerated.

That's a healthy accusation. I know the threads are super long, but can you tell me where this happened? Either another poster has to get flogged or you misread something. But, in this case, since I see people agreeing with you, you better be right or else their agreeing doesn't mean as much.



Like I said, maybe I'm just simple.
Something must be amiss considering how many people, many of whom have argued ridiculously with JimBo have immediately come to his defense. It's not that simple.

Fred
 
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