Is Schmidt's and charlie 626 Legit
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But we don't know about the 300 spectators but it is not only possible but perhaps even likely -- Mosconi was a big star of that era.
Also, keep in mind that back in those days there were a lot of pool rooms that were pretty good sized. Here's one that was in STL around the same time.
Lou Figueroa
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I thought you said he was the girl?
You're welcome.
But seriously (and non-combatively), isn't there a one- or two-sentence synopsis of why the vid reviewers need 14.1 skills so I don't have to wade through the whole thread? I'm honestly interested in your experienced insight.
I assume it's something like there are subtle foul possibilities they might not catch, and not that they're more likely to miss video doctoring. I don't need details, just the drift...
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You said "we all know it was an 8 foot table". I pointed out that it is pretty well documented and accepted that it was in fact an oversize 8, 8.5 foot.
It isn't the things we dont know that get us in trouble as much as the things we do know that aren't true.
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But was the one in Ohio one of them?
I don't doubt 300 people can fit in a room, but even if it was in the middle of an air force hanger, 300 can't get close enough to see much.
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I have Mosconi's autobiography, and i reread it to refresh the details.
An interesting quote "...an attorney who prepared an affidavit attesting to the validity of my claim to a new record. A few days later, the BCA gave it its stamp of approval."
So to set a BCA record, it seems that all it takes is an affidavit, and the BCA to review the claim.
An interesting quote "...an attorney who prepared an affidavit attesting to the validity of my claim to a new record. A few days later, the BCA gave it its stamp of approval."
So to set a BCA record, it seems that all it takes is an affidavit, and the BCA to review the claim.
That is only applicable in cases where the new record setter did not throw chalk at you or call you a mexican.
That’s the gist of it.
It's most likely because the BCA group who reviewed the video weren't 14.1 specialists. If they had been, then the argument would have been that they weren't video-editing specialists. If they had been both 14.1 specialists, and video-editing specialists, then the argument would have been that they weren't 6'3" redheads from Paduca. There's no shortage of problems with any potential reviewer.
The only acceptable reviewer is Willie Mosconi, and until he shows up and gives the run his blessing, it could be fake.
You came out of retirement for that?
Hey! You're back! I know why, and maybe it will work out for you.
John Schmidt sounds exactly like Mosconi said it himself "...prepared an affidavit attesting to the validity of my claim to a new record. A few days later, the BCA gave it its stamp of approval."
It sounds like Nick Varner, Mark Wilson, and Bob Jewett, and others have given it their blessing. I think they know more than you!
Maybe you and Danny could scrounge together $50 each and take a look for yourself!
Ha! Ha! You're so comical!
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I've read the room was a walk up and a good size that took up two address numbers.
I believe it had over a dozen pool tables, a snooker table, and a billiard table.
Lou Figueroa
Nah! Just zero substance...same as it was when you started your HILARIOUS postings.
It the case of Mosconi's run, it was the affidavit that did the trick for the BCA.
With the JS run, they were relying on the video. And that's were those two guy's 14.1 bona fides, or more exactly their lack of, come into play.
Lou Figueroa
Schmidt also had signed witness statements. The BCA must have considered the video to be icing on the cake to the witness statements.
If 'prominent' members of the billiards community like Nick Varner and many others (who have 14.1 bona fides) thought it was a good run, I wouldn't argue with that. The current 14.1 champions also seem to be happy that Schmidt had a great run. (Schmidt already has many runs over 400, so of all the people in the world likely to break Mosconi's run, Schmidt was a likely person to do it.)
After Schmidt's run of public presentation, it doesn't sound like there's any doubt that he ran 626 balls, except for maybe a few fringe players with personal axes to grind.
Schmidt currently has the official BCA record, and that's not disputed.
Some people seem to feel that Schmidt's exhibition run, while longer than Mosconi's, was of a lesser quality because Schmidt made a targeted series of attempts over a number of weeks, rather than just going to a pool hall and doing a run. That's not a big deal for me.
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