Is the 3 Cushion game picking up like the pool game is?

I think systems are well down the list of things you need to learn at 3C if you are just starting.

I think the best way to start is to get Byrne's Standard book, go to the second half (all about 3C), and try each of the shots he shows as examples. Check them off as you feel you have a good idea of how each one works. Recognizing the easy way to play shots is far more important than getting the right numbers on the diamonds.
I have it. It was my guide while I was living in MA. But I didn’t achieve any level of proficiency. I just didn’t practice enough.
 
I have it. It was my guide while I was living in MA. But I didn’t achieve any level of proficiency. I just didn’t practice enough.
You probably need to play with someone who will tell you things like: "You didn't spin that shot. You have almost no english. That shot needs heavy right." or some such. Then you have to try that to see if in fact it works. You can also learn the details by watching good players carefully but the current lot of top players might be hard to copy.
 
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After that resub for more ! :D
btw i was interested about your run of 4 in 1h timeline so i took a shot at it...
I did warm up lil bit before i tried it because my cue tip gone bad so i borrowed friend carom cue. Very hard to play with it because a lot different deflection but it is best hitting cue i ever shoot so far.
And then i was ready to grind and actually made 5 on 1st inning haha..
I then tried around 20 min and made a lot of 2 and 3 but not 4.. Maybe i lost interest due making it right away.
anyways i decided to cut 5 for fun :)
 
After that resub for more ! :D
btw i was interested about your run of 4 in 1h timeline so i took a shot at it...
I did warm up lil bit before i tried it because my cue tip gone bad so i borrowed friend carom cue. Very hard to play with it because a lot different deflection but it is best hitting cue i ever shoot so far.
And then i was ready to grind and actually made 5 on 1st inning haha..
I then tried around 20 min and made a lot of 2 and 3 but not 4.. Maybe i lost interest due making it right away.
anyways i decided to cut 5 for fun :)
really like billiard #3
great shooting.....(y)
 
3 cushion is simultaneously the most fun and most frustrating game there is. The best I ever did was beat a pretty good player a game to 15 pts in 17 or 18 innings. If my 2nd contact ball could be replaced by a baseball, I could be pretty good at that game

My issue is getting kisses on good hits that were going to happen, I think fully half of my failures are due to some kiss happening at the table, but the angle the ball is traveling is good for a hit aside from that.
 
My issue is getting kisses on good hits that were going to happen, I think fully half of my failures are due to some kiss happening at the table, but the angle the ball is traveling is good for a hit aside from that.
I learned early that running the ball off a thin, no english hit, is fraught with kisses. Stuff you'd never learn in pool.
 
Here in Tulsa the only place that has a 3c table is a Mexican joint that's not super anglo-friendly. Used to be a Asian spot where they gambled like crazy but cops finally shut them down. Place i play at used to have one but it got so little play and took up space that two pool tables would fit in so its gone. Basically 3c is deader than HulaHoop in Oklahoma.
@garczar, I went to the room in Tulsa that you're talking about and had a different experience even though I'm not Hispanic. The owner watched me practice and seemed pleased that I could play the game and didn't even charge me for table time.

Best playing table there was actually an old Gandy that was as fast as heated table even though the heaters on it and all the other tables were all disabled. Current Owner explained the heaters were in that condition when he got the tables. The wiring was somewhat crudely cut on all of them.
 
@garczar, I went to the room in Tulsa that you're talking about and had a different experience even though I'm not Hispanic. The owner watched me practice and seemed pleased that I could play the game and didn't even charge me for table time.

Best playing table there was actually an old Gandy that was as fast as heated table even though the heaters on it and all the other tables were all disabled. Current Owner explained the heaters were in that condition when he got the tables. The wiring was somewhat crudely cut on all of them.
i haven't been out there in a while. couple mexican dudes that come in magoos says best time is during the day. night time is all mexicans and gets a little rowdy.
 
i haven't been out there in a while. couple mexican dudes that come in magoos says best time is during the day. night time is all mexicans and gets a little rowdy.
I went there an hour before closing time on a Sunday night, I believe. Not many customers and very quiet. The owner was friendly and came over to speak to me while practicing. But there is a camera outside that you have to pass through to get into the room, so what you've heard probably isn't unfounded since they apparently have to screen out some of their clientele from entering.

Had the opposite reception at a Vietnamese carom room 30 years ago where the owner was exceptionally rude and unwelcoming to outsiders but the customers were all friendly and glad to see me playing their game.
 
I learned early that running the ball off a thin, no english hit, is fraught with kisses. Stuff you'd never learn in pool.
Please, do not commit this as a rule for yourself. This simply isn't true.

You definately need to cut balls thin in 3C to get proper position and there is no correlation between thin cuts and kisses.

The only way to know if there is a kiss or not is experience. I know everyone wants to know rules and systems for predicting kisses but there just aren't any that are widely applicable.

Sometimes a bank is the only right shot because the kiss exists for the other four possible natural paths.
 
Please, do not commit this as a rule for yourself. This simply isn't true.

You definately need to cut balls thin in 3C to get proper position and there is no correlation between thin cuts and kisses.

The only way to know if there is a kiss or not is experience. I know everyone wants to know rules and systems for predicting kisses but there just aren't any that are widely applicable.

Sometimes a bank is the only right shot because the kiss exists for the other four possible natural paths.
These are absolutely habitual backcut type pool shots with little to no english. They produce very predictable half table 3 railers but not if the primary ball has no pocket. :D
 
Probably a good bet there. Might not even be called gambling tbh!

Anybody know if Matlock ever played Efren at 3c?
I seem to recall hearing that they played at some point but don't remember the source, so don't quote me on that.

I used to watch Matlock play 3-Cushion every night at Shooters in Olathe. Kept track of the innings one night and both he and his sparring partner averaged a point an inning for that game to 50 points.

Mr. 3-Cushion Bill Smith said on another forum that Matlock was "only" a 0.7 player which may be right over the long term.

Dave himself told me his high run at 3-Cushion was 15 and that it happendd in a tournament in Ohio in the 1970's. He also said on another occasion that 3-Cushion was really the only game he enjoyed these days although he still ran racks of 9-ball on a Diamond barbox to stay sharp. I can attest to the fact that he can still string them together. I'd say a six-pack was fairly routine for a night's practice.
 
3 cushion is simultaneously the most fun and most frustrating game there is. The best I ever did was beat a pretty good player a game to 15 pts in 17 or 18 innings. If my 2nd contact ball could be replaced by a baseball, I could be pretty good at that game
My best game so far i averaged little over 2 to 30p. I had bad start but ran 3 times 7 in row to close the match. I rate that a lot higher than my high run of 9. My normal avg is close to 1 nowadays after few months we had carom table.
 
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