We have 90 players that want to play. What do we do? Is there a bracket between 64 & 128?
Is there a 96 player bracket?
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try looking here.
missouribilliards.com/billiardcharts.htm
missouribilliards.com/billiardcharts.htm
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DITTO!! he right!! you just need a byes chaRT TO TELL YOU WHERE TO BUT THEM, AND YOUR IN BUSSINES!!!
DITTO!! he right!! you just need a byes chaRT TO TELL YOU WHERE TO BUT THEM, AND YOUR IN BUSSINES!!!
Charts??
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I tell you the best money i have spent-- i bought 42IN FLAT SCREEN AND HAD IT MOUNTED [sorry] had cap on, well i bought softwear and put it in computer and it showes players , tables and times,score keeper is not bothered with a crowd around her!! the t.v. is in good location!!!:grin:
A nice BYE Chart can be found here: http://www.playbca.com/Downloads/TournamentCharts/tabid/148/Default.aspx
Along with different brackets.
Having a play-in round is the samething as having BYE's.
A 96 person/team chart doesn't work because it is not a perfect chart. Perfect charts are all the powers of 2.
2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, .....
Not sure on what you are running, but with 96 players, you could do a 6 player round robin and have the top 1 or 2 players come out of there and fall into a 16 or 32 player bracket.
Along with different brackets.
Having a play-in round is the samething as having BYE's.
A 96 person/team chart doesn't work because it is not a perfect chart. Perfect charts are all the powers of 2.
2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, .....
Not sure on what you are running, but with 96 players, you could do a 6 player round robin and have the top 1 or 2 players come out of there and fall into a 16 or 32 player bracket.
It doesn't matter if the tournament is a single or double elimination with 65 to 127 player field, it must be run on a 128 chart with byes. Tournament brackets work off of segments of 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, etc. Notice there is not the number 96 in this sequence.
A 96 player chart will not work even though it is a multiple of 16 (16 x 6). If you run the brackets down to the 6th round on the winner's side, you will end up with 3 players for the final match. It's kind of hard to have a single match with 3 players, don't ya think? LOL
Keep it simple! If you have anywhere between:
65 to 128 players use a 128 chart
33 to 64 players use a 64 chart
17 to 32 players use a 32 chart
Just spread the byes out evenly on the chart before you do the draw. There are bye charts available on the web. I've run between 800 and 1000 tournaments over the last 30 yrs so I don't even need the bye charts anymore.
Stones
A 96 player chart will not work even though it is a multiple of 16 (16 x 6). If you run the brackets down to the 6th round on the winner's side, you will end up with 3 players for the final match. It's kind of hard to have a single match with 3 players, don't ya think? LOL
Keep it simple! If you have anywhere between:
65 to 128 players use a 128 chart
33 to 64 players use a 64 chart
17 to 32 players use a 32 chart
Just spread the byes out evenly on the chart before you do the draw. There are bye charts available on the web. I've run between 800 and 1000 tournaments over the last 30 yrs so I don't even need the bye charts anymore.
Stones
I hope it's not in too good a location (like by the door)...it might grow legs and walk lol. Johnnyt
This is correct. 38 players will draw a bye and the remaining 52 players will play a first round match. The 26 winners in the first round will now match up with the 38 players who got a bye. 64 players total in the second round of the winners bracket.
It is important to spread the byes properly. There is a formula for that too.
Here are the spots that you Mark as BYE's (In Order)
First 38 Byes
128 * 64 * 96 * 32 * 112 * 48 * 80 * 16 * 120 * 56 * 88 * 24 * 104 * 40 * 72 * 8 * 124 * 60 * 92 * 28 * 108 * 44 * 76 * 12 * 116 * 52 * 84 * 20 * 100 * 36 * 68 * 4 * 126 * 62 * 94 * 30 * 110 * 46
Continue if you have more.
* 78 * 14 * 118 * 54 * 86 * 22 * 102 38 * 70 * 6 * 122 * 58 * 90 * 26 * 106 * 42 * 74 * 10 114 * 50 * 82 * 18 * 98 * 34 * 66 * 2
First 38 Byes
128 * 64 * 96 * 32 * 112 * 48 * 80 * 16 * 120 * 56 * 88 * 24 * 104 * 40 * 72 * 8 * 124 * 60 * 92 * 28 * 108 * 44 * 76 * 12 * 116 * 52 * 84 * 20 * 100 * 36 * 68 * 4 * 126 * 62 * 94 * 30 * 110 * 46
Continue if you have more.
* 78 * 14 * 118 * 54 * 86 * 22 * 102 38 * 70 * 6 * 122 * 58 * 90 * 26 * 106 * 42 * 74 * 10 114 * 50 * 82 * 18 * 98 * 34 * 66 * 2
Although you really have to base the chart on 128, it is possible to make a standard 96-player chart simply by erasing every fourth line in a 128-player chart. You would also erase some of the spots for matches that you know won't take place. The main advantages of the special chart are that it's not as big due to the eliminated spots for matches, and it's easier to put in byes. The main disadvantage is when you have 13 players show up at the end to make 103. Also, you probably have to design and print the chart yourself.
I'm not sure, but I think Terry Stonier used a 96-player chart at the Jointed Cue in Sacramento for his big tournaments.
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you need to contact bmiller3337@charter.net [crystal miller] she is my tourny cordanator, i just tell her what i want and she and [susan wade] takes care of it for me. i am surrounder with good people!!! :grin-square:
Another thing you could do, especially if it is a 2-day tournament, is to draw the players onto 8 16-player charts (with 4 or 5 byes per chart) and play each of the charts down to two players left. Those players come back the second day. Draw the remaining 16 players onto the winners/losers sides of another 16-player chart.
Thanks, I'll foward your advice.