Is this cue really this valuable?

s e r i o u s l y !!!??

Thread is some kind of Belated Halloween Prank, right?

you cannot be Sirius! (john mcenroe)

Happy Holidays, I'm not going to upset the powers that be, so... (i can't believe this) :boring2:
 
I've seen exactly one cue that I would personally value that high, if not higher. It is Ernie Gutierrez's personal Ginacue that he made over forty years ago. It's all ivory from top to bottom and is simply a beautiful work of art. He used to take it out and play with it once in a while. He loves to play Banks and he used it against me. Unsuccessfully I might add. :wink:

Ernie told me that some guy actually wanted to trade a house for it at one time.
He values it in the six figures but he will never sell that cue. That will assuredly stay in his family.
 
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Not sure I posted this correctly. I never posted a link or picture before. Anyway what is the value of high end Mike Bender Cues??? Does being a duplicate to an actual cue in the Smithsonian add that much value??

Many say cue prices on high end cues are subjective and the value isn’t carved in stone, basically the value is what ones willing to pay. Having said all that I sure would love to own any Mike Bender Cue.

Lol, NO.
There is only a handful of builders that can command those prices.
 
Would you rather own A ONE OF A KIND cue or a Smithsonian 1 of 3 Duplicate ...?
That choice is up to you.
A Smithsonian Duplicate is sort of cool too...

$60K seems unreasonably high BUT common on people, this stick is definitely worth more than $1,500...
SIMPLE, as a starting point, Call and ask Michael Bender "Value and Price." then make your assessment.

Seller can ask whatever price you want BUT This stick won't sell for $60K
 
I've seen exactly one cue that I would personally value that high, if not higher. It is Ernie Guttierrez's personal Ginacue that he made over forty years ago. It's all ivory from top to bottom and is simply a beautiful work of art. He used to take it out and play with it once in a while. He loves to play Banks and he used it against me. Unsuccessfully I might add. :wink:

Ernie told me that some guy actually wanted to trade a house for it at one time.
He values it in the six figures but he will never sell that cue. That will assuredly stay in his family.

I've seen many...IMHO, All fancy Gus 6 and 8 pointers....many others by many makers.
 
I've seen many...IMHO, All fancy Gus 6 and 8 pointers....many others by many makers.

We may have different interpretations of value. I've seen many cues (including Gus and Bushka's) that I would value over 20K, but none over 50K, except the one I mentioned before. I have a cue (a rare one-of-a-kind Gina) that is valued over 20K, but I'm not crazy enough to think it's worth much more than that. Now If someone wanted to give me 60K for it, I would be more than happy to let them have it.
 
We may have different interpretations of value. I've seen many cues (including Gus and Bushka's) that I would value over 20K, but none over 50K, except the one I mentioned before. I have a cue (a rare one-of-a-kind Gina) that is valued over 20K, but I'm not crazy enough to think it's worth much more than that. Now If someone wanted to give me 60K for it, I would be more than happy to let them have it.


I'll give you 60K for it Jay, send it to me! I can only afford 20.00 a month but I promise I'll send that 20 til that thing is 100% paid off! Honest!
 
I've seen exactly one cue that I would personally value that high, if not higher. It is Ernie Gutierrez's personal Ginacue that he made over forty years ago. It's all ivory from top to bottom and is simply a beautiful work of art. He used to take it out and play with it once in a while. He loves to play Banks and he used it against me. Unsuccessfully I might add. :wink:

Ernie told me that some guy actually wanted to trade a house for it at one time.
He values it in the six figures but he will never sell that cue. That will assuredly stay in his family.

This already makes me sad knowing how things that are supposed to "stay in the family" make their way to market while the body is practically still warm many times.

JC
 
... I'm an artist and if I found someone to pay 60k for one of my portraits, would it be worth 60k? You would probably have to say yes. So, who really knows...
Artist and pool player? I think you haven't set your sights high enough. The record high price for a living artist was just set. Look up:

The Story Behind the David Hockney Pool Painting That Just Sold for $90.3 Million
You need to start cranking out pool paintings.
 
Artist and pool player? I think you haven't set your sights high enough. The record high price for a living artist was just set. Look up:

The Story Behind the David Hockney Pool Painting That Just Sold for $90.3 Million
You need to start cranking out pool paintings.

Bob - Yeah, I saw that last week. My favorite artist all-time, Van Gogh, was depressed ( if not outright suicidal ) that his brother Theo, who was an art dealer in Paris, couldn't even GIVE AWAY Van Gogh's paintings. He had tried at first to sell them with no luck. Then he tried simply giving them away so his brother's work would be in salons and galleries as a way of getting his name out. No luck there either. Van Gogh either shot himself, as most historians believe, or, he was killed. Either way, his death came very shortly after Van Gogh found out his brother had failed to even give his work away and, as can be imagined, was extremely depressed about it. He sold only 1 painting in his lifetime, for 400 francs ( a very high price for the time, especially for something by an unknown artist ), but it was bought by the well-to-do sister of a close friend of Van Gogh's, so it was done as a bit of a favor, and Van Gogh knew it.

101 years after his death, in 1990, one of his paintings sold for 82.5 million dollars which would be 154 million in today's dollars. In 1987, his painting "Irises", sold for 53 million which, at that time, was the most ever paid for a painting at auction. Van Gogh would have been very proud. I find it very sad that chances are at least fair that he killed himself in part because he discovered his work could not even be given away for free, only to have that same work become the most expensive ever auctioned a century later.

I think the lesson is, never ever ever let someone, anyone, tell you you cannot succeed at something you have a passion for and are willing to put your heart, sweat, love, passion and hard work into completing. Whether it's playing pool, playing music or spreading colors on a canvas. And, just as, if not even MORE important, never ever ever give up.
 
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Bob - Yeah, I saw that last week. My favorite artist all-time, Van Gogh, was depressed ( if not outright suicidal ) that his brother Theo, who was an art dealer in Paris, couldn't even GIVE AWAY Van Gogh's paintings. He had tried at first to sell them with no luck. Then he tried simply giving them away so his brother's work would be in salons and galleries as a way of getting his name out. No luck there either. Van Gogh either shot himself, as most historians believe, or, he was killed. Either way, his death came very shortly after Van Gogh found out his brother had failed to even give his work away and, as can be imagined, was extremely depressed about it. He sold only 1 painting in his lifetime, for 400 francs ( a very high price for the time, especially for something by an unknown artist ), but it was bought by the well-to-do sister of a close friend of Van Gogh's, so it was done as a bit of a favor, and Van Gogh knew it.

101 years after his death, in 1990, one of his paintings sold for 82.5 million dollars which would be 154 million in today's dollars. In 1987, his painting "Irises", sold for 53 million which, at that time, was the most ever paid for a painting at auction. Van Gogh would have been very proud. I find it very sad that chances are at least fair that he killed himself in part because he discovered his work could not even be given away for free, only to have that same work become the most expensive ever auctioned a century later.

I think the lesson is, never ever ever let someone, anyone, tell you you cannot succeed at something you have a passion for and are willing to put your heart, sweat, love, passion and hard work into completing. Whether it's playing pool, playing music or spreading colors on a canvas. And, just as, if not even MORE important, never ever ever give up.

Vincent not only couldn’t make it as an artist.....he was also a lousy pool player....

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Hell, he even over-cut his own ear....
...he became known as Van Gogh-off.
 
Vincent not only couldn’t make it as an artist.....he was also a lousy pool player....

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Hell, he even over-cut his own ear....
...he became known as Van Gogh-off.

That bar had a rule about no jumping. From the multiple gouges in the cloth, you can see how well *that* went over. Van Gogh was a realist...
 
Vincent not only couldn’t make it as an artist.....he was also a lousy pool player....

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Hell, he even over-cut his own ear....
...he became known as Van Gogh-off.

PT - On the list of the 100 most expensive paintings ever sold, he has 9 of them. And in today's dollars, collectively, those 9 come in at just under a billion.

A billion...

Too bad he couldn't have waited around a century or so. He deserved the success.
 
PT - On the list of the 100 most expensive paintings ever sold, he has 9 of them. And in today's dollars, collectively, those 9 come in at just under a billion.

A billion...

Too bad he couldn't have waited around a century or so. He deserved the success.

I’ve had a few arguments with people over the years...the guy standing by the table...
...shouldn’t you be able to see some of his left foot?
 
...the guy standing by the table...
...shouldn’t you be able to see some of his left foot?
That's Monsieur Ginoux, the owner of the cafe. Would you believe he was a veteran of the Franco-Prussian War and lost his left leg during a cavalry charge? Patrons called him over by saying, "Hop to it!"
 
I’ve had a few arguments with people over the years...the guy standing by the table...
...shouldn’t you be able to see some of his left foot?

*And* leg... as I said, yes, Van Gogh was a realist. But *not* a perfectionist. That painting was obviously done post heavy-Absinthe-consumption. And the next morning he probably said, "Meh... no one'll ever notice."


So much for *that*.
 
That's Monsieur Ginoux, the owner of the cafe. Would you believe he was a veteran of the Franco-Prussian War and lost his left leg during a cavalry charge? Patrons called him over by saying, "Hop to it!"

I want to be able to sleep tonight so I am pretending I did not see this post.
 
We may have different interpretations of value. I've seen many cues (including Gus and Bushka's) that I would value over 20K, but none over 50K, except the one I mentioned before. I have a cue (a rare one-of-a-kind Gina) that is valued over 20K, but I'm not crazy enough to think it's worth much more than that. Now If someone wanted to give me 60K for it, I would be more than happy to let them have it.

Make an offer for any fancy 6 or 8 point Gus... I think you wouldn't get any to sell under 50-60+k....There are MANY cues where that would be the same scenario.

We agree to disagree
 
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