Ivory Joint or NO Ivory Joint??

ProZack

ProZack

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I am having Steve Klapp build me a nice playing cue. I realize that the Ivory Ban is about to go into effect...

Regardless of looks or Playability should I have Steve put a Ivory Joint in the cue? Is this going to be my last chance to get an Ivory Jointed Cue? Is the Ivory going to make the cue worth more?

Any Educated answers will be appreciated..
 
Does ivory play better? Or is this for style or collectibility concerns?
 
I am going to play with the cue but I don't plan on selling it. So in the future, do you think the Ivory make it worth more? Or will people not want to bother with it?
 
I think the cue will be worth considerably more in the future with the Ivory joint.

Once there are no more being made supply and demand will start to swing in your favor.

The more time that passes the more valuable it should become...

I have owned a few cues that I said I will never sell and I don't own them anymore. :)

There has always been something magical with ivory and pool ... just look how much an all ivory set of Brunswick balls sells for today compared to their new selling price.

Good luck with your new cue.
 
depending on when the cue is going to be finished could either allow or not allow him to put ivory on the cue if/when the ban takes affect

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ProZack said:
I am going to play with the cue but I don't plan on selling it. So in the future, do you think the Ivory make it worth more? Or will people not want to bother with it?
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If you're not going to sell it in the future, does it really matter if it makes it worth more to someone else? If you want an ivory joint then by all means put it on your new cue.

If there's a ban on anything the prices on the black market will go up, but you aren't going to sell it right?

As in most things, buy what you like and don't concern yourself about what other's think, that is unless you just want to keep it for awhile and try to flip it then by all means buy something you really don't want (so you won't mind selling it) but that everyone else will pay a premium for.
 
You are Right.. EVERYTHING IS FOR SALE... lol.. Just didn't plan on selling it for a few years..
 
Your question makes it seem as if you haven't much experience with ivory joints but I could be mistaken.

Go ivory....at some point this will get worked out......the cue will look more handsome....I believe you'll enjoy
the play more......and the scarcity of cues in the future with ivory joints seems inevitable.

Tip: If you go with a flat faced ivory joint, think about stepping down in weight if you've been using a steel joint
cue. The cue Jerry R. is making for me right now will have a flat ivory cue joint & ferrules.

And I think there may also be a loophole in the law when you are getting the cue for your own personal collection
and you have no intention of selling this cue in the foreseeable future and buying or selling cues is not business
enterprise for you. The ban regulates the commercial sale of ivory, not the acquisition of it. I know there has to be
two sides to a buy & sell but the law doesn't say anything about someone buying ivory........only the selling of ivory.

And if you acquire something for your collection and selling the cue is a challenge down the road, just explore trading
the cue(s) and then there isn't any sale involved......a barter/swap is certainly not a commercial sale of ivory as described in
the regulation. Ivory joint cues will always be in demand but regardless, I think this all will get worked out and I say go ivory.
As far as my advice or opinion goes, you see the cues in my signature so I just don't talk it.....I really do walk it.

Matt B.
 
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No ivory unless your willing to except the possibility of cracking due
to climate change. Depends on the quality of ivory, can be a giant
pain in the ass. Go with any other material that isn't so tempermental.Goodluck
 
Agent 99 said:
I think the cue will be worth considerably more in the future with the Ivory joint.

Once there are no more being made supply and demand will start to swing in your favor.

The more time that passes the more valuable it should become...

I have owned a few cues that I said I will never sell and I don't own them anymore. :)

There has always been something magical with ivory and pool ... just look how much an all ivory set of Brunswick balls sells for today compared to their new selling price.

Good luck with your new cue.
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you're assuming klapp is in the rare group of makers whose cues hold or go up in value, I doubt it. Ivory joints are neat but unless it's top tier make I doubt it's worth the extra expense for collection purposes. If you like the way ivory plays get it, if you like the way ivory look get a sleeved joint. for natural materials in a joint i like the horns my self.

Andy
get what you like
 
scsuxci said:
No ivory unless your willing to except the possibility of cracking due
to climate change. Depends on the quality of ivory, can be a giant
pain in the ass. Go with any other material that isn't so tempermental.Goodluck
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My 34 year old ivory jointed Richard Black cue disagrees with your assessment. No cracks, broke with it for years, in all seasons and from KC to Milwaukee to Atlanta to Dallas.

Scott <<== loves the feel, sound and play of ivory joints
 
Ivory It Is...

I decided today to call Steve and get him to make it an Ivory joint.
 
I was assuming that the actual Ivory would go up in value.. Making the cue go up too.
 
scsuxci said:
No ivory unless your willing to except the possibility of cracking due
to climate change. Depends on the quality of ivory, can be a giant
pain in the ass. Go with any other material that isn't so tempermental.Goodluck
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Honestly, this is a crazy statement.
 
No ivory joint fer me.

I like the stuff McDermott puts in their joints and I also have been impressed with metal joints too. Very positive, Solid hit. I like to feel immediate and vicious feedback from the stick. It's not like I can make any corrections to the shot Im getting the feedback on, but it mentally confirms what I just did.

It just clicks for me. I love the slightest little bit of jolt from a soft feather follow shot, to the jolt that greets me when I am ripping a ball 8 1/2 feet away, drawing whitey back to the opposite rail.... just because I can.

Regards,

Lesh
 
ScottR said:
My 34 year old ivory jointed Richard Black cue disagrees with your assessment. No cracks, broke with it for years, in all seasons and from KC to Milwaukee to Atlanta to Dallas.

Scott <<== loves the feel, sound and play of ivory joints
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That must have been that pre flag ivory with the led in it. lol
 
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