Jason Miller wins the bank ring game, Truman comes in second.
Paid $18k to win it.
Paid $18k to win it.
Jason Miller Wins
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u12armresl said:
!st Place was $12,000 and 2nd place was $6,000. This was before the "chop". I was one of a few who were in with Truman.
watchez said:
I think their names are on AzBilliards Home Page, unless there was another ring game that I don't know about.
Here's a cut-and-paste: The big winner on day one was Jason Miller, who won the six man bank ring game. Miller defeated Brian Groce, George Breedlove, Tony Coleman, Richie Richeson and Truman Hogue for the first prize of $12,000. Hogue finished second and pocketed $6000.
Nice payouts, and congratulations to Jason Miller!
And to think, this is only the beginning of the DCC! The BEST is yet to come!
BTW, check out Diana Hoppe's EXCELLENT snapshots on the Main Page of AzBilliards!
JAM
And here is a recap on how he won. .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1XA9bUQ9Uk
And this neat video also includes the players
And this neat video also includes the players
Jam you must be thinking of Brian Gregg not Brian Groce, both are from Indiana.
Fbrent,
Did you just break even if he won $6k with a $3k entry or did the entry come off the top and you made $1.5
Did you just break even if he won $6k with a $3k entry or did the entry come off the top and you made $1.5
derekdisco said:And here is a recap on how he won. .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1XA9bUQ9Uk
And this neat video also includes the players
He came to within one ball of losing, that's strong.
Does anyone else think that the all-in stuff is a little severe. Truman scratched and clawed to amass a nice lead which just disappeared after the all-in bet structure started. I admit I was pulling for Truman, and he did have the opportunity to win several times, but I think the final bet should freeze at 1000, to give the leader the edge he deserves; make the guy trailing get it back by earning it the hard way, instead of a crap shoot. I know this would extend the match, but they could put a shot clock in effect to keep it from dragging on forever. Great BCN coverage; the announcing team was terrific (IMHO the "pros" that do network football could learn some things from Grady, Fred, Piggy & Tony about covering an event in an entertaining and enlightening manner). Well done, guys! I'm picking Piggy Banks to win the bank ring game tonight. For anyone who hasn't bought the BCN Derby City coverage: you're missing some good stuff. It's the best 30.00 you'll spend all year.
It was grady's fault as you can hear him say "I need this table by 10:30, so at 10:15 we are all in" If he doesn't say that the bet stays at $800 and Truman probably wins.
I agree
I also think there should be a shot clock from the git go. I was showing this on the plasma t.v. for my customers to get them interested but as the match progressed you could see they were getting bored waiting for those guys to shoot. There was usually no reason for it. And it seems Grady changes the original intentiion every year. What did he need the table for? Just a midnight ring game that never materialized. Maybe BCN did not have the time although there were scheduled to show ring game all night and broadcast until they had tech problems. Yeh Truman got hosed because of the bad timing.
jnav447 said:
I also think there should be a shot clock from the git go. I was showing this on the plasma t.v. for my customers to get them interested but as the match progressed you could see they were getting bored waiting for those guys to shoot. There was usually no reason for it. And it seems Grady changes the original intentiion every year. What did he need the table for? Just a midnight ring game that never materialized. Maybe BCN did not have the time although there were scheduled to show ring game all night and broadcast until they had tech problems. Yeh Truman got hosed because of the bad timing.
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nfty9er said:
You are right about all the changes, both this year and last year. Originally Truman was told this year there would be a ring game with 6 players on Friday night. Then I saw in a post where Grady had changed it to 10 players to be drawn playing a ring game on Friday and another on Saturday. Each game was to have five players. Truman then had to call Grady to find out what was going on as he was not notified of the change. Then the day of the Friday game Truman learned that a sixth player had been allowed to join the Friday night game. Also, just like a previous post noted, Grady said the match needed to be over in two and one half hours (at 10:30). Around 10:00-10:05 Grady announced that there would be a five minute break and when they came back the players would be all in!
I also would like to see a shot clock and I would like to see the incoming player get ball in hand. This would allow for the spectators to see many more banks made and it would give each player a good shot when the came to the table.
Grady not the culprit
I just got off the phone with a friendly who is attending the DCC.
He has a copy of the handout the players got before the ring game
started. it is an explaination of the format, and clearly states that
if the contest is not decided by 10:00 PM they will go to "all in"
at that point
so they knew going in about both the time constraint and the
betting requirement.
hope this helps clear up any confusion.
Dale
fbrent1972 said:
I just got off the phone with a friendly who is attending the DCC.
He has a copy of the handout the players got before the ring game
started. it is an explaination of the format, and clearly states that
if the contest is not decided by 10:00 PM they will go to "all in"
at that point
so they knew going in about both the time constraint and the
betting requirement.
hope this helps clear up any confusion.
Dale
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pdcue said:
On the time restraint... Grady announced right before the ring game started that he needed for the ring game to be over in 2 1/2 hours which would have been 10:30.
I watched the second ring bank game that Shannon won. IMHO and the people sitting around me we didn't like the way it ended. Danny was making more banks and had a good lead and then Shannon makes two banks and wins. Even though this was agreed upon it didn't seem right. I think Danny Harriman is one of the most underated players in the world. He plays all games well! A class act. Still a great event and glad that it happens.
Truth
Orginally I had put Jason in the tournament with a couple of friends. When I put the 1500.00 up I was told there would be 18k with 6 players (winner take all) So we thought we had a good chance to make some cash. Get to the tournament and find out they changed it to 2 five man ring games. Also read on here that they are supposed to draw on Friday night at 7 pm. We get to the tournament and once I pay the other 1500.00 I'm told that chopping isn't allowed to take place, and that Grady was going to make first place get 10k and 2nd place get 5k. He said that he only had the table, and in order for Accusats to sell the tapes it had to be over in a certain period of time. I saw Grady with my 2 friends while he was eating. We told him that this wasn't right, and what would be done about it. He said that he was going to leave it up to the players to decide how they wanted to do it. I told him that the backers should have some say so in it, and that if it wasn't winner take all we no longer wanted to put up 3k to have a change to win 7k. He said that it should be an honor to stake someone like Jason (which it truely was). I mentioned that we would barely double our money, and he felt like we should'nt care about the payouts someone should just put the money up. After this was said my friend and I said that if he couldn't guarantee that it was winner take all we wanted to withdraw from backing. He gave us our money back, and went and w/d Jason from the banks. Instead of finding him another backer he said he wouldn't allow him to play in the ring game, since we w/d him. Finally he allowed him back in the tournament with another backer. Just wanted to let azers know exactly how the situaion was ran!
Orginally I had put Jason in the tournament with a couple of friends. When I put the 1500.00 up I was told there would be 18k with 6 players (winner take all) So we thought we had a good chance to make some cash. Get to the tournament and find out they changed it to 2 five man ring games. Also read on here that they are supposed to draw on Friday night at 7 pm. We get to the tournament and once I pay the other 1500.00 I'm told that chopping isn't allowed to take place, and that Grady was going to make first place get 10k and 2nd place get 5k. He said that he only had the table, and in order for Accusats to sell the tapes it had to be over in a certain period of time. I saw Grady with my 2 friends while he was eating. We told him that this wasn't right, and what would be done about it. He said that he was going to leave it up to the players to decide how they wanted to do it. I told him that the backers should have some say so in it, and that if it wasn't winner take all we no longer wanted to put up 3k to have a change to win 7k. He said that it should be an honor to stake someone like Jason (which it truely was). I mentioned that we would barely double our money, and he felt like we should'nt care about the payouts someone should just put the money up. After this was said my friend and I said that if he couldn't guarantee that it was winner take all we wanted to withdraw from backing. He gave us our money back, and went and w/d Jason from the banks. Instead of finding him another backer he said he wouldn't allow him to play in the ring game, since we w/d him. Finally he allowed him back in the tournament with another backer. Just wanted to let azers know exactly how the situaion was ran!