Jay, is this accurate? hehe

bobson_215

AzB Silver Member
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John Grissim was a freelance newswriter. He dabbles at everything like
Sports, Entertainment and global news. He was doing a follow-up report
about the Philippine's 1970 First Quarter Storm. The year was 1972. He
was caught up in a big rally that was going on at Rizal Ave. The police and
the firemen came. The firemen started pumping their powerful hoses to
the crowd. Grissim scampered for safety. He saw a stairway and he immediately
went up. He stopped at the 2nd floor thinking he was already safe from the
firemen's hoses and the maddening crowd. He took a left that leads directly
to a pool hall. There were pool tables in front of him, a carom table to his
left, and a makeshift Coffee Shop in front of the carom table.

He proceeded to the makeshift Coffee Shop, ordered a cup of cofee while
stretching his neck through the windows facing Rizal Ave., checking if the
rallying crowd have already dispersed and the police and firemen are back
to their respective precincts. There was still a lot of chasing going on and he
decided to stick it out inside the pool hall.

He almost spilled his coffee while he was taking a sip when he heard a
thunderous break coming from a table were a small crowd started to gather.
He saw a lanky young man, not more than 18 years of age, shooting balls
by himself. He asked the carinderia attendant what was the young man
playing, the guy replied, "That's Rotation sir. He shoots the lowest ball first
and so on." I know Rotation! That's what Grissim wants to say to the guy
but kept it to himself. He started watching the young lad who was playing
alone. He ran the first rack. He scattered 14 balls, tying some of them, and
placed the 1 ball in the spot area. He shoots, boom! Boom! Boom! All 15
balls are in the pockets. He repeated the same routine about 5 more times.

John Grissim have covered pool tournaments before. He was hubknobbing
with the best of them, but he've never ever seen a man treat the balls with
disdain! "That is unbelievable! Can you do that over and over again?"
said Grissim, who couldn't resist talking to the guy. "Yes sir!" said the guy
with a thin moustache. He ran out 4 racks this time, to Grissim's pleasure.

Grissim and the guy, who gave his name as Efren Reyes chatted for a while.
Grissim wished him well and he said he should try his luck in the US, were
there's a lot of pool action, and side money to be made.

Grissim went back to the US and warned pros like Jay Helfert and Jim Rempe,
just like what the article said. The late 70s saw Parica's entry into the US
pool scene and the American pros started asking Grissim, "Is that the
Filipino guy you're talking about?". "Nope! He was a head taller than that guy!"
replied Grissim. "But that guy is very good!" said one of the pros.
"But the one that I saw was even better" quipped Grissim.
The rest is history...
 

Russ Chewning

Short Bus Russ - C player
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Eh.. This isn't the story he tells in his book. In the book, if I rmeember correctly, he had heard stories from the American G.I.s stationed in the Phillipines about the level of play of a guy named Efren. He went on a trip there to find Efren, and found him. At the time of the book, I believe Efren told him that he was #2 in the country.

I should have my copy of Grissim's book in a few days.. I'll check the story. I have a copy of a pic of that 18 year old Efren in one of the replies I made to Bill Porter's question about the cost of a picture CD. Check it out. Efren looks very smoooove. And no moustache!

Russ
 

jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
Gold Member
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bobson_215 said:
John Grissim was a freelance newswriter. He dabbles at everything like
Sports, Entertainment and global news. He was doing a follow-up report
about the Philippine's 1970 First Quarter Storm. The year was 1972. He
was caught up in a big rally that was going on at Rizal Ave. The police and
the firemen came. The firemen started pumping their powerful hoses to
the crowd. Grissim scampered for safety. He saw a stairway and he immediately
went up. He stopped at the 2nd floor thinking he was already safe from the
firemen's hoses and the maddening crowd. He took a left that leads directly
to a pool hall. There were pool tables in front of him, a carom table to his
left, and a makeshift Coffee Shop in front of the carom table.

He proceeded to the makeshift Coffee Shop, ordered a cup of cofee while
stretching his neck through the windows facing Rizal Ave., checking if the
rallying crowd have already dispersed and the police and firemen are back
to their respective precincts. There was still a lot of chasing going on and he
decided to stick it out inside the pool hall.

He almost spilled his coffee while he was taking a sip when he heard a
thunderous break coming from a table were a small crowd started to gather.
He saw a lanky young man, not more than 18 years of age, shooting balls
by himself. He asked the carinderia attendant what was the young man
playing, the guy replied, "That's Rotation sir. He shoots the lowest ball first
and so on." I know Rotation! That's what Grissim wants to say to the guy
but kept it to himself. He started watching the young lad who was playing
alone. He ran the first rack. He scattered 14 balls, tying some of them, and
placed the 1 ball in the spot area. He shoots, boom! Boom! Boom! All 15
balls are in the pockets. He repeated the same routine about 5 more times.

John Grissim have covered pool tournaments before. He was hubknobbing
with the best of them, but he've never ever seen a man treat the balls with
disdain! "That is unbelievable! Can you do that over and over again?"
said Grissim, who couldn't resist talking to the guy. "Yes sir!" said the guy
with a thin moustache. He ran out 4 racks this time, to Grissim's pleasure.

Grissim and the guy, who gave his name as Efren Reyes chatted for a while.
Grissim wished him well and he said he should try his luck in the US, were
there's a lot of pool action, and side money to be made.

Grissim went back to the US and warned pros like Jay Helfert and Jim Rempe,
just like what the article said. The late 70s saw Parica's entry into the US
pool scene and the American pros started asking Grissim, "Is that the
Filipino guy you're talking about?". "Nope! He was a head taller than that guy!"
replied Grissim. "But that guy is very good!" said one of the pros.
"But the one that I saw was even better" quipped Grissim.
The rest is history...

The only part of that story I remember is talking to John at Caesars Tahoe in 1982. He told Jimmy and I that there were players he had seen in the Philipines who could spot any American the eight ball. I said sure John and laughed to myself. I really thought he was full of it, until I saw Efren demolish the field in Houston in 1985.
 

Cornerman

Cue Author...Sometimes
Gold Member
Silver Member
Russ Chewning said:
Eh.. This isn't the story he tells in his book. In the book, if I rmeember correctly, he had heard stories from the American G.I.s stationed in the Phillipines about the level of play of a guy named Efren. He went on a trip there to find Efren, and found him. At the time of the book, I believe Efren told him that he was #2 in the country.

I should have my copy of Grissim's book in a few days.. I'll check the story. I have a copy of a pic of that 18 year old Efren in one of the replies I made to Bill Porter's question about the cost of a picture CD. Check it out. Efren looks very smoooove. And no moustache!

Russ
Hey Russ! The story in the book isn't the same as the story in the first post.

Fred
 

Russ Chewning

Short Bus Russ - C player
Silver Member
I_groans69 said:
all i know is chewing has no idea was he speaks about due to a previous post

Right.

I'm clueless...

It's not like I've READ the book or anything...

And my name is not "chewing". Oops, I seem to have misspelled your name in the quote above too, so nevermind. I now realize how hard it is to read letters and type them back in exactly correctly. Especially when my last name is so many letters. Don't worry though. It's not like about 800 idiot school kids didn't make the same mistake with my name when calling me "chewing gum", right?

So you can be forgiven for your illiteracy.

Russ
 
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Russ Chewning

Short Bus Russ - C player
Silver Member
Cornerman said:
Hey Russ! The story in the book isn't the same as the story in the first post.

Fred

Fred,

Yeah, I know, man. I was just saying in his book, Grissim tells the story of his first meeting with Efren Reyes, and it did not go the same as the story in the first post on this thread, which purports to be his first meeting with Efren also.

Russ
 

mosconiac

Job+Wife+Child=No Stroke
Silver Member
"That is unbelievable! Can you do that over and over again?"
said Grissim, who couldn't resist talking to the guy. "Yes sir!" said the guy with a thin moustache.
I assume this exchange was in tagalog? Maybe "oho ginoo"?!?!? I can't imagine a very young Efren speaking in fluent English. Then again, it could have been a business necessity to allow him to interact with the GI's.
 
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