This is silly. Even if you don’t accept Jayson continuing mid-rack, why would you ignore the subsequent racks?
Jayson Shaw 714 World Record 2 years ago
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Based on the antics I've seen that shooter pull in other high run attempts that are free to view. My guess is yes...
Because it doesn't conform to their narrative. Some have a love affair with John, or the legend of Mosconi, and some just have hate for Shaw or wrldpro.
So you don't find anything including counting the foul shot in that 714 peculiar and odd? Over fifty years of playing pool and I have never received credit for a shot when it was known I fouled.
You need more asterisks. You have the 714, the 669, and the 45 the way real people count. How many think this would have been acceptable in competition?
Shaw does need to come back and set a real record. His earlier attempts did prove he is capable of breaking the record. It doesn't seem unreasonable to ask him to do it without needing a Philidelphia lawyer to explain his score. You put balls in holes. You do that without missing, without fouling. It's a pretty simple concept really.
Hu
Normally you seem to be pretty level headed, but using your own criteria, why woudn't you recognize the 669...? Which would still be the record.
Sry I mean the number minus the balls made after the supposed foul still remaining in that rack. Still be more than the 629
I knew Mosconi well and spent plenty of time around him when I was much younger. He was a super nice guy away from the pool table and a little different when playing pool. As for people’s love affair with John I think a lot of people have seen the story now very clear and have left that romance. As for Jayson he certainly shows his sportsmanship and his emotions on his sleeve at times but off the table I’m honored to call him a great friend. He is a very giving person and it’s sad that people that bash him don’t get to see that side of him. As for me it’s all good. I speak the truth and for some haters it’s hard to accept. Thanks for the nice comments.
It was not a competition it was an exhibition and a great point you bring this up. This is exactly why the BCA did what they did and Jayson has two records for his high run.
before engaging in this thread i forgot how afflicted with lunacy the topic is. always. even otherwise normal posters, as you write..
you must be a great snake oil salesman
F/O
Key point - Willie took the table after the person he was playing missed! His run actually happened in a real match setting, not in some studio set up for multiple attempts day after day. Willie had exactly one chance that day to run balls and he did, 526 of them in a row!
Willie would play something like 100+ exhibition matches a year, and in every one of them run over 100 balls. He could literally run 100 balls on command! Not even today's super heros can do that. Let them try getting on the table ONCE every day and producing a hundred ball run. You can bet me! I'd like to bet any one of them that they can't produce a hundred ball run in a game to 150 every day for even ten days in a row. They must have an opponent who is capable of running a rack or two if they miss (maybe me). I've got 10K that says they can't do it!
I would have counted from the first shot after the foul if Shaw and company had. They asked for a 714 to be certified. It didn't happen and there was no reason to watch the tape after the foul. You are an experienced and I believe honorable player. Suppose you committed this same foul in competition and knew it. Would you continue to shoot or turn over the table?
That is the deal with the 669, Shaw didn't "turn over the table" by starting a recount. Had he noticed the foul and started the next shot at one then sent a video of a 669 to be certified I would have zero complaint. That obviously isn't what happened.
I find any claims of a 714 with a known foul in the run objectible. They are even counting the shot with the known foul. I find the 669 objectible too, but on the BCA, not Shaw, wrldpro, et al.
Hu
You must have not been here back when him and Barton would lock horns
soyale
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even if you don’t acknowledge the 714 or the 669, it makes no sense to discredit the rest of the run after 45. You can take away the rest of the rack that he fouled on, but there is no way in hell you can take away what he ran starting with the next rack.
playing the next break shot as it lies versus taking balls in hand and “starting over” makes zero difference.
trying to discredit this achievement makes no sense to me
playing the next break shot as it lies versus taking balls in hand and “starting over” makes zero difference.
trying to discredit this achievement makes no sense to me
actually filler runs 100 every day on tight equipment as a routine thing. but he actually likes straight pool. except for him and a few more i suspect you are right, the interest for straight pool is sadly dwindling
i wonder if the guys he played in exhibitions were pros or hand picked to mow over
todays pro dont play the game as much as ol willie once did,
straight pool was his job
these days straight pool is a niche game
Hooray! More talk about 14.1 practice runs. Can someone, like let's say wrldpro, put all his efforts in actually putting together tournament 14.1 events instead of this high run attempt crap? Or am I asking for too much?
I've never seen any of these streams, only talk here. But you are right, I have organized a couple of amateur 14.1 events in the past few years and people are way more appreciative of that than these dopey runs. I'll let you know when the next one is.
thats kool never heard of em tho good for you
and would love to know when the next lame event with non pro players so i can skip the 3 hr 150 point matches!