After playing on the 10’ Brunswick snooker table in my hometown room I was shocked to see the guys in England running balls down the rail and making them. I didn’t think it was possible.
Jayson Shaw in the Hunt for Another 14.1 Record
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What do you mean by 'for unknown reason'?
The reduction was for an allegedly touched ball.
And 'bent over backwards'? C'mon...after all the calls for appropriate vetting?
I mean it is unknown why they decided to have more people review the run after they had a committee of seven review it and agree it was 714.
And yes, after they had their hand selected committee of experts review the run on a wide-screen TV, unanimously agree it's 714, and promise quick certification, they *bent over backwards* to gather more people to cabal over it for several months, an additional two times.
Lou Figueroa
c'mon
I understood the initial review noted the foul at 669, and the internal debate at BCA was whether to standardize with 'all fouls' versus 'cue-ball fouls only'
If high-run records are going to be an ongoing thing, it's probably good to develop some standards.
Yes, it was noted — however the BCA committee that reviewed the run unanimously ruled it was OK for a high run attempt and the record they would quickly certify would be 714.
And in fact they have recently come up with rules for high runs and that’s fine. It’s one of the reasons we now have two cameras and a rack outline amongst a few other things going on.
Lou Figueroa
The Shaw record doesn't include any victims.
Your choice of words is not appropriate and exhibits a 'why me?' perspective.
It is reasonable for any certifying party to vet claim fully and in any manner it deems necessary.
I know we agree on the need for standards. I hope the BCA gets its procedures defined and publically available and I wonder what incentive it really has to care about such things.
What can you do? You all are forced to hope what you do is sufficient.
Tough position.
got to 300 plus on day one, as lou put it
pure insanity
Sorry but you don’t get to decide how appropriate or inappropriate my words are, all you can do is offer *your* opinion.
I can’t make everyone happy with what I write but sleep like a baby anyway. So see if you can figure out how much I care about what *your* opinion on this is particularly how off the mark they are.
Lou Figueroa
try hard
And it’s funny…he’s raised the bar so far that 300 is sorta a bit of a let down. And I can barely run a rack on gulley buckets.
And his patterns!
For the love of God, you cannot predict his patterns. They are totally unorthodox but whaddahey, they’re working for him.
Lou Figueroa
Can't disagree with any of that...merely pointing out your defensive victim tone isn't doing you any favors in the matter.
Typical pool though, you can only operate in the environment that exists and in the context of the hi run...small town, no sheriff.
I'd rather see a partnership with the BCA to achieve the desired outcome, instead of victim- language and allegations of impropriety.
(I know a 'parrnership' isn't something you/ yours can require of the BCA)
So what seems to be stopping his runs? I know the high run i believe he scratched off the pack on his break ball. Has he even missed a ball yet. Most don't even hit the pocket facings and haven't seen him come close to bobbling one, but i can't watch every minute.
Predictable.
Don't concern yourself with improving the situation for yourself or anyone else.
In fact, make it as difficult as possible for anyone to want to support you. Then complain about how unfairly things went.
Here's the risk though, the BCA refusing to examine further submissions.
Don Mackey school of pool about to get a new member.
The past is nebulous and mistakes, if any, cannot be mended. There never were standards for an exhibition run, so any run was subject to some arbitrary interpretations. In my view, there's little point in arguing over the certification of runs in the past. I've generally taken the view that anything the BCA has certified is good enough for me, but they had little to guide them in the past and did the best they could.
Credit to the BCA, however, for developing a new set of guidelines for exhibition runs. Yes, the past is a murky mess that has, understandably, led to some contentiousness, but there will be some clarity going forward.
Just as you say, Lou, the adoption of rules for high runs by the BCA is fine and will make things simpler going forward.