joe tucker aiming system

[Dan White]

I think what you figured out for yourself isn't all the things you should know, see and DO to get it to work, especially from individual youtubes.

CTE really does work as described and I don't think you should pursue why it helps but to actually get it to work and help, however you might not care enough now.

Apparently I, Stan, and others who defend and praise the system know something more than you do in the instructions as well as execution. I can assure you none of us are stupid enough to praise something that really has no merits.

I don't think you did yourself too many favors by going into your Pat Johnson and Lou Figueroa anti-CTE act either when you made the comments about Stan that you did. Now that I know a little bit about how your funny bone works you could have made a lot more progress going into the ADC impression than the gruesome twosome above.

You did a video attempting the five shots but in that video you should have done a very comprehensive step by step of what you were actually seeing, how you moved into the shot alignment and what was being lined up to where, whether you were attempting manual CTE or PRO 1, and then pulled the trigger to strike the balls.

As I've stated, videos can reveal or prove EVERYTHING if done properly. Your precise explanations and MISSED shots would have provided what was needed for correction.

It would be like if you were a pilot flying a plane and radioed your coordinates or flight path to a tower and were then told you were going off course but to make an adjustment to the new coordinates. Problem easily solved.

(I'm getting sucked back into posting and I don't want to)

There's nothing wrong with posting if it is productive, IMO. The things I said about Stan may be over the top but I thought at least some people would understand that I was just using a rhetorical device. The point I was making is that if CTE really worked, then he might want to find a different way of describing how to make it work. For many people over many years, it just doesn't make sense. Why not find a way to reach these people and their wallets? I have since said that by all accounts Stan is an excellent teacher and communicator. It's just that when it comes to CTE things seem to fall apart. The first thing I said months ago here is that if I really need to buy the DVD to understand it then I'll stop asking questions and maybe I'll get it. That's not the reply I got.

I might yet make a video trying to demonstrate CTE. Also, I'd like to see a CTE user make the 5 shots with a camera above and behind the shooter with the camera moved directly behind the shot line for each shot. It might reveal some things, too.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

There's nothing wrong with posting if it is productive, IMO.

You missed your guess. It wasn't, was it?

The things I said about Stan may be over the top but I thought at least some people would understand that I was just using a rhetorical device.

May have been over the top?? HA! In the last week of Dec. you just achieved the "UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD FOR 2015". It was in poor taste and a lot more should have come out of a man with intelligence like yourself.


The point I was making is that if CTE really worked, then he might want to find a different way of describing how to make it work. For many people over many years, it just doesn't make sense. Why not find a way to reach these people and their wallets?

He's as low key as anyone has ever been. However, you do have the wolves on this forum who are quick to pounce on anything involving wallets or money and want to scream "Huckster, snake oil salesman, and marketing pusher" for anything with a small price tag. They even said it about Hal Houle and he never charged a penny and REFUSED to be paid!

I have since said that by all accounts Stan is an excellent teacher and communicator.

I don't remember ever seeing that.

It's just that when it comes to CTE things seem to fall apart.

It falls apart for those who expect to get it through osmosis by owning the DVD or watching it all the way from front to back without working on the table.

The first thing I said months ago here is that if I really need to buy the DVD to understand it then I'll stop asking questions and maybe I'll get it. That's not the reply I got.

What was the answer you got and was it before or after you went on a verbal rampage disparaging him?

I might yet make a video trying to demonstrate CTE.

It would be enlightening for yourself and all others.

Also, I'd like to see a CTE user make the 5 shots with a camera above and behind the shooter with the camera moved directly behind the shot line for each shot. It might reveal some things, too.

LMAO! Who in the hell has that kind of expensive professional video setup that isn't in the movie business? Your descriptive video will reveal MORE, even with minimal equipment.

 

[Dan White]

LMAO! Who in the hell has that kind of expensive professional video setup that isn't in the movie business? Your descriptive video will reveal MORE, even with minimal equipment.

It's called a cell phone, Dave, and maybe a tripod. In my case, I suspend a phone from my basement ceiling with a coat hanger and some wire. I could've made Star Wars for a lot less...

I originally posted in JB's Million Posts thread some time back. Stan doesn't do himself any favors. It's a two way street. Also, if someone told me that they didn't understand what I was saying and maybe I'm not a good teacher, I would engage that person and find out what they are talking about. He didn't take the bait.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

It's called a cell phone, Dave, and maybe a tripod. In my case, I suspend a phone from my basement ceiling with a coat hanger and some wire. I could've made Star Wars for a lot less...

I originally posted in JB's Million Posts thread some time back. Stan doesn't do himself any favors. It's a two way street. Also, if someone told me that they didn't understand what I was saying and maybe I'm not a good teacher, I would engage that person and find out what they are talking about. He didn't take the bait.

I think you may have been told many times and in so many words by multiple qualified users you're not a very good student and have gone about it the wrong way but you haven't taken the bait either when it comes to doing a CTE video with a complete description of what you're seeing, how you're aligning the balls and yourself, and then taking the shot.

It doesn't matter what Stan does or how many times he's done it with youtube videos and posts addressing individuals and their questions. In no time flat PAT JOHNSON will be jumping in to try pi$$ing on any type of positive parade and he's definitely a very competent pi$$er as he's proven for 18 years, LOU FIGUEROA, complete troll/stalkers like ENGLISH and BANKS, and a cadre of others who have no clue to begin with but love getting involved with flame wars.
Mark my words, the entire scenario will play itself out all over again with the book. Not because it's ill written but because that's just WHAT THEY DO!!

Here we go again just like it's been for 9 years (for me) and almost 20 years in total with the same crap. It's like a couple of hamsters running around on a caged wheel and getting nowhere. A total waste of time and why it's useless to post any longer. SICK! ABSOLUTELY SICK!

 

[Banks]

I think you may have been told many times and in so many words by multiple qualified users you're not a very good student and have gone about it the wrong way but you haven't taken the bait either when it comes to doing a CTE video with a complete description of what you're seeing, how you're aligning the balls and yourself, and then taking the shot.

It doesn't matter what Stan does or how many times he's done it with youtube videos and posts addressing individuals and their questions. In no time flat PAT JOHNSON will be jumping in to try pi$$ing on any type of positive parade and he's definitely a very competent pi$$er as he's proven for 18 years, LOU FIGUEROA, complete troll/stalkers like ENGLISH and BANKS, and a cadre of others who have no clue to begin with but love getting involved with flame wars.
Mark my words, the entire scenario will play itself out all over again with the book. Not because it's ill written but because that's just WHAT THEY DO!!

Here we go again just like it's been for 9 years (for me) and almost 20 years in total with the same crap. It's like a couple of hamsters running around on a caged wheel and getting nowhere. A total waste of time and why it's useless to post any longer. SICK! ABSOLUTELY SICK!

Lol. Stalker because of claims without proof and such things as Dan asking what references are used for his curtain shots which result in Stan and his apostles lighting the torches and bringing out the pitchforks. I stopped posting because, for the thousandth time, the cte response was to act like a big baby and do anything but answer the question. Just like above, you'll post repeatedly about how much you're upset and how good of a pro you are, but heaven forbid you answer a damned question directly. Waste of time indeed. Then again, there's a reason you can only be found in this subforum.

 

[Dan White]

I think you may have been told many times and in so many words by multiple qualified users you're not a very good student and have gone about it the wrong way but you haven't taken the bait either when it comes to doing a CTE video with a complete description of what you're seeing, how you're aligning the balls and yourself, and then taking the shot.

Touche. I'll give you that one. What took you so long to make a logical point?

It doesn't matter what Stan does or how many times he's done it with youtube videos and posts addressing individuals and their questions. In no time flat PAT JOHNSON will be jumping in to try pi$$ing on any type of positive parade and he's definitely a very competent pi$$er as he's proven for 18 years, LOU FIGUEROA, complete troll/stalkers like ENGLISH and BANKS, and a cadre of others who have no clue to begin with but love getting involved with flame wars.
Mark my words, the entire scenario will play itself out all over again with the book. Not because it's ill written but because that's just WHAT THEY DO!!

Now you had to go an ruin it! I'll give you $1000 if Stan addresses the issues in an understandable way that is backed by known science IF any of the guys above flame what he says. It is exactly because he DOES NOT do that that the flame wars rage on.

Maybe it is one of those "agree to disagree" things. Stan can go on and market his product using unfounded adjectives like "objective," and ill-defined terms like "visual intelligence" and I'll go practice some pool.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Touche. I'll give you that one. What took you so long to make a logical point?

They're there. You just glossed over them like Stan's CTE instructions.

Now you had to go an ruin it! I'll give you $1000 if Stan addresses the issues in an understandable way that is backed by known science IF any of the guys above flame what he says.

This isn't a thesis or science project. It's POOL! An AIMING SYSTEM! Nice safe bet on your part though.


It is exactly because he DOES NOT do that that the flame wars rage on.

The science geeks are in the minority who keep it going. Real pool players don't care about physics, formulas, math, protractors, etc.

Maybe it is one of those "agree to disagree" things.

That would be OK but there doesn't seem to be any "draws" in the discussion. It's a fight to the death.


Stan can go on and market his product using unfounded adjectives like "objective," and ill-defined terms like "visual intelligence" and I'll go practice some pool.

Practicing pool is a great idea for all of us. Unfounded? A matter of perspective.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Touche. I'll give you that one. What took you so long to make a logical point?



Now you had to go an ruin it! I'll give you $1000 if Stan addresses the issues in an understandable way that is backed by known science IF any of the guys above flame what he says. It is exactly because he DOES NOT do that that the flame wars rage on.

Maybe it is one of those "agree to disagree" things. Stan can go on and market his product using unfounded adjectives like "objective," and ill-defined terms like "visual intelligence" and I'll go practice some pool.

Dan,

That's the main tactic... attrition due to long term frustration of not getting any real answers resulting in the circle jerks.

That way when everyone has given up objecting to the inaccuracies then they can simply just continue along with those inaccuracies.

Like I said earlier today it's good for others to hear.

The two sides of the 'discussion or debate' will probably never agree but having both sides out in the open is good for neutral parties to at least have the food for thought when making their own determinations.

The handful here on both sides are basically all irrelevant, except for the purpose of putting out food for thought for those neutral undecideds.

That's the only services of any value that is being done & you've done a very good job of doing just that.

Best Wishes for a Happy & Safe New Year for You & Yours.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I stopped posting because, for the thousandth time,,,

Let me finish it for you.

YOU: "I have never had anything of benefit or intelligence to add to a post. It's the same stupid sh!t I keep saying over and over and I actually get sick of it myself.

The other time I stopped posting was when I got BANNED and it finally brought peace and quiet to the forum for the period I was gone. They were ALL glad.

My name is John Scudder and I know very little to nothing about pool or I would have offered some insights by now. Don't expect any in the future either."

 

[Dan White]

The science geeks are in the minority who keep it going. Real pool players don't care about physics, formulas, math, protractors, etc.

Well, maybe, but if you are a guy who studies an aiming method and spends thousands of hours on it and produces books and videos about it, you've joined the ranks of the "science geeks." "My name is Stan and I am a science geek." So if you want to play in that swimming pool you have to be ready for what swims your way.

Who needs all that "learnin'"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sglyFwTjfDU

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Well, maybe, but if you are a guy who studies an aiming method and spends thousands of hours on it and produces books and videos about it, you've joined the ranks of the "science geeks."

I wouldn't say that at all. He's created and written an aiming system for POOL PLAYING ADDICTS who far outnumber science geeks in pool, nor did he do it in a physics, geometry, math style.

"My name is Stan and I am a science geek."

No. "My name is Stan and I am a POOL PLAYER and PRO INSTRUCTOR to help your POOL PLAYING get to a better level without Science.

So if you want to play in MY swimming pool DO NOT BE PEEING IN IT OR LEAVING TURDS TO FLOAT AROUND OR I DRAIN THE POOL AND NOBODY SWIMS!

Who needs all that "learnin'"?

You do! And just about all pool players who WANT to learn something different about pool.

 

[Banks]

Let me finish it for you.

YOU: "I have never had anything of benefit or intelligence to add to a post. It's the same stupid sh!t I keep saying over and over and I actually get sick of it myself.

The other time I stopped posting was when I got BANNED and it finally brought peace and quiet to the forum for the period I was gone. They were ALL glad.

My name is John Scudder and I know very little to nothing about pool or I would have offered some insights by now. Don't expect any in the future either."

THIS POST HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY TAMPAX

Aww, did little davie boy get his feelings hurt?

Can't answer the question?

"Waaaaaah. Banks is picking on me with facts and reality again, using stupid things that i said."

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Kevin O'Leary on the Shark Tank = Mr. WONDERFUL
http://sharktankmrwonderful.blogspot.com/


John "Banks" Scudder on AZ Billiards = MR. WORTHLESS

 

[Banks]

Kevin O'Leary on the Shark Tank = Mr. WONDERFUL
http://sharktankmrwonderful.blogspot.com/


John "Banks" Scudder on AZ Billiards = MR. WORTHLESS

Davie Segal on azb.. mr. Cantanswerasimplequestionandinsteadgetsbutthurt.

Still impressed with your inability to use azb's feature to look up threads under a user's name. But, hey, you can master cte like a pro, right? Lol.

Any time you want to answer the question, feel free to get permission from your mom.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

"My name is Stan and I am a POOL PLAYER and PRO INSTRUCTOR to help your POOL PLAYING get to a better level without Science.

So if you want to play in MY swimming pool DO NOT BE PEEING IN IT OR LEAVING TURDS TO FLOAT AROUND OR I DRAIN THE POOL AND NOBODY SWIMS!

lol

I don't think the word "science" in that context means what it normally means.

pj
chgo

 

[Dan White]

Mozart

Seems like people just like to argue. I just started a Youtube video of Mozart music while I'm working on something. I took a quick look at some of the comments to see what "normal" people talk about and there's about a 50 post thread between two people arguing. What's the argument? One guy commented about how this kid Mozart might be as good as Justin Bieber some day. The other person took offense... and they were off to the races as to whether it was really a joke or not. :rotflmao1:

... and you think we have problems?

 

[book collector]

Do yourself a favor and spend the money, if you are a serious pool player and want to improve, it is worth 100 times the price.