joe tucker aiming system

The table-oriented numbering may be easier to visualize for some, but for me it's easier to visualize the numbers oriented with the CB/OB centerline, which is also my starting sight line.
In fact, Tucker's numbered training balls (and the numbered visualizations you learn from them) work the same way and just as effectively with the numbers aligned to the CB/OB centerline - i.e., with the zeros facing each other.

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Whether you visualize Tucker's numbers with zero facing the OB or facing the end rail, you use the same "equal-opposite" visualization (with the help of the numbers) to estimate the CB contact point. What different calculation is there either way?

The table-oriented numbering may be easier to visualize for some, but for me it's easier to visualize the numbers oriented with the CB/OB centerline, which is also my starting sight line. I'm sure the numbers are helpful in estimating the CB contact point either way.


Sure.

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chgo

i only read a small portion of the flames....:embarrassed2: forgive me..:D
but on some shots especially cut backs which like most i tend to over cut
i look at it both from the contact point to the pocket and the number on joes scale
it has helped me to increase my make percentage....:smile:
 
I gave it a shot because I thought it might be a fun challenge. Missed one - shooting too fast. I also just realized that I only repeated that shot only once... oops. Pretty boring to watch, if you ask me:

https://youtu.be/g9BtH1nzJ6s

Of course this proves nothing. By your implied logic, if you can't make these shots then you don't know what you are talking about and don't have a valid opinion. On the other hand, now that I have equaled your performance that should mean that my opinion is just as good as yours, and by proxy, then, the opinion of everybody I agree with is as good as yours. So why don't we get past telling people their opinion doesn't matter and just debate on the points made?

I've never seen 10" pockets before...:)
4:28 WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT...HALF YOUR SHOTS WOULDNT GO ON A NORMAL TABLE...:grin-square:

Just kidding ...nice shooting.
 
I've never seen 10" pockets before...:)
4:28 WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT...HALF YOUR SHOTS WOULDNT GO ON A NORMAL TABLE...:grin-square:

Just kidding ...nice shooting.

You forgot to say WHAT!

Got a little lucky on that one I guess. 4.75" pockets, standard GC5 table. I play straight pool so opted for "normal" pockets rather than 9 ball pockets, but I've played on a table with 3.75" pockets. You just have to be that much more careful.

Whenever I have a long difficult shot I'm not sure about I hit it at pocket speed, which of course creates a more forgiving pocket no matter the size.

Oh, did I forget to mention I was one-stroking them and I had a headache and my back hurts and I normally shoot right-handed and the humidity was so high and (just stop me now)!
 
hmm...seems like critical thinking would make one not want to compare themselves to someone that most now believe is wrong about more things than he is actually right about.

As almost always, you misstate matters & the point of my post seems to have gone right over your head as much does.

I made no comparison of myself to anyone, much less Hawking. The post was NOT about me at all but was about PJ & Dave's 'demands' for a video.

I used Hawking as an example because of his physical disability vs a still working brain & intelligence.

IMO Hawking is wrong about 'much'. The thing is that he has changed his mind on some matters or to be more accurate is forcing some issues because of a lack of certain beliefs.

So... even though almost all of your post was inaccurate, what was the point of your post?
 
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So what was it that got you banned for a considerable length of time and most recently to get a threat of a ban if you didn't confine yourself to your own threads?

What's the point of this post?

In fact what is the point of your last 30 or so posts?

No need for any answers. They are just rhetorical questions for the general readership to consider.

Merry Christmas to All & to All a Good Night.
 
What's the point of this post?

In fact what is the point of your last 30 or so posts?

No need for any answers. They are just rhetorical questions for the general readership to consider.

Merry Christmas to All & to All a Good Night.

To all those that believe in God, Merry Christmas and to those that don't or believe in Allah, Happy Holidays.:smile:
 
What's the point of this post?

The point of the post is to learn from a man with such vast experience as yourself who has a knack for getting banned and what the reasons were if it wasn't "not to let your ego or testosterone level inhibit cognitive thinking ability or to act arrogant & condescending to people."
So if it wasn't that, what was it?


In fact what is the point of your last 30 or so posts?

I and others have often asked the same question of your 350 posts typically found IN ONE THREAD ALONE!!!

No need for any answers. They are just rhetorical questions for the general readership to consider.

Of course there's a need to answer your responses at least once since you normally have 25 answers for everybody else's posts and then 15 more to your own responses to theirs.

Merry Christmas to All & to All a Good Night.

Yo, SANTA - you forgot to answer some other questions that I asked in reference to what you posted. If you're going to claim Genius for yourself (or real close to it) it's fascinating and I'd like to hear about how such a GREAT MIND is in our midst wasting it away on meaningless topics such as CTE and other areas that you have NO experience using at the table itself, only in your exceptional mind.

Here they are again:

Rick:
"I am very consistent in my thoughts & thinking & I have been tested 3 times & have scored right under the level of what would be considered genius."

What level did your test scores calculate your IQ to be? Who administered the tests and when? How long have you been a member of MENSA?
 
As almost always, you misstate matters & the point of my post seems to have gone right over your head as much does.

I made no comparison of myself to anyone, much less Hawking. The post was NOT about me at all but was about PJ & Dave's 'demands' for a video.

I used Hawking as an example because of his physical disability vs a still working brain & intelligence.

IMO Hawking is wrong about 'much'. The thing is that he has changed his mind on some matters or to be more accurate is forcing some issues because of a lack of certain beliefs.

So... even though almost all of your post was inaccurate, what was the point of your post?

What's the point of any of your posts? That is, other than to find fault with that which you willfully have no knowledge or understanding of. It's surely not to help anyone be a better pool player.
 
I gave it a shot because I thought it might be a fun challenge. Missed one - shooting too fast. I also just realized that I only repeated that shot only once... oops. Pretty boring to watch, if you ask me:

https://youtu.be/g9BtH1nzJ6s

Of course this proves nothing. By your implied logic, if you can't make these shots then you don't know what you are talking about and don't have a valid opinion.

Oh but it does prove something but not what you listed above which I've never implied so don't make up words I've never used. As far as I'm concerned it proves a lot. First of all it shows you aren't afraid to get on the table and expose yourself to whatever the outcomes may be. We share that in common as do a few other guys in here. It shows you have confidence in your skills and ability to match your talk even if you MISSED a higher number of shots, which you didn't.

It proves you play strong enough that you DO NOT NEED to learn or convert to CTE. Which leads me to wonder why you're spending so much time and energy laying waste to CTE, those who teach it, and those who use it. What is your ultimate goal?


On the other hand, now that I have equaled your performance that should mean that my opinion is just as good as yours, and by proxy, then, the opinion of everybody I agree with is as good as yours.

Your performance at the table has definitely gained my respect primarily because you had the guts to get on the table unlike some others with big know it all mouths. The fact you did as well as you did increases the respect.

What it doesn't mean is your opinion is just as good as mine regarding CTE because you haven't proven anything that indicates you possess a full and total grasp of the system or the practiced skills to do it properly. As a matter of fact in THIS video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SFSkVlWjLA&feature=youtu.be , toward the end you state "I haven't been able to figure it out." How can you debate or give strong opinions on something you only know at a HALF A$$ED LEVEL and then continue to dictate to others who do know and can do it's all wrong or doesn't work the way it's taught? At his point I'm starting to think, this guy is NUTS, not that your opinion has any validity just because you matched my performance.

And you can forget the proxy crap. As far as I'm concerned you've made some unwise choices in who you've aligned yourself with. We don't always pick the best friends or women to marry and only find out once it's too late.


So why don't we get past telling people their opinion doesn't matter and just debate on the points made?

Now Robin, you're playing word games like your idol Batman Johnson. I've never said opinions don't matter and you damn well know that.

Hal, Stan, I, and a number of others who have become highly skilled in CTE by spending countless hours on the table through live lessons, phone calls, DVDs, and
completely reprogramming the way we visualize setting up to shots from decades of using standard methods. It is a process which requires considerable dedication and focus because it is so different. But it does pay off, just not for everyone.

I think you have a lot of talent and have proven by this video that you have been dedicated to pool itself. If you applied it to CTE we wouldn't have to DEBATE anything. It would be sharing personal insights that got us there.

The word "DEBATE" tells me you aren't even close to that point with CTE so it's not going to happen. I'm so sick and tired of this SH!T I could care less whether anybody wants to even USE it or not let alone debate. I'm also so sick and tired of this SH!T on the forum that my time here is going to be NIL very soon.

Btw, what do you use personally to aim. Whatever it is, you're doing it very well.
I assure you I'm not going to knock it and say it's no good or anything else.
I hope you respect me enough to do likewise with what I've chosen to use and know it works. If not...well you can guess the future.

And to get THIS THREAD back on track, I think highly of Joe Tucker, his Contact Point aiming system with the training balls, grid, and other materials he's designed for game improvement. SUPER INSTRUCTOR, EXCELLENT PLAYER, and GREAT INDIVIDUAL.



 
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I assure you that you have had far more interaction with PJ in the last year than I have had in 20.

WHOOOOEEEE!! LUCKY ME!! :rolleyes::(

He cracks me up on almost every post, though. You have to admit he's got some very witty replies.
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I don't think our sense of humor is matched very well. I'm more of a Chris Rock and RON WHITE kinda guy.
 
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Yo, SANTA - you forgot to answer some other questions that I asked in reference to what you posted. If you're going to claim Genius for yourself (or real close to it) it's fascinating and I'd like to hear about how such a GREAT MIND is in our midst wasting it away on meaningless topics such as CTE and other areas that you have NO experience using at the table itself, only in your exceptional mind.

Here they are again:

Rick:
"I am very consistent in my thoughts & thinking & I have been tested 3 times & have scored right under the level of what would be considered genius."

What level did your test scores calculate your IQ to be? Who administered the tests and when? How long have you been a member of MENSA?

I'm not here to cater to your bullying manner whims & demands & dictates of 'discussions'. Why do CTEers demand answers to their irrelevant questions but will absolutely NOT answer questions that are pertinent & relevant to the subject of CTE?

My IQ level & medical circumstances for the initial testing are irrelevant to these discussions & a pool forum.

It's your seemingly lack of the specific intelligence that seems to make you incapable of understanding that matters of an intellectual nature are NOT dependent on any physical characteristic such as PJ's ball pocketing abilities & that no video proves matters of an intellectual realm where the WHY is the subject of the 'discussion'.

Also your continual misstating matters such as me being a member of an organization of which I am not requires many posts by PJ, etc. to record corrections.

When did you stop beating your wife 3 times a week, Dave?

You & others seem to think that these types of tactics are 'cute' & give some form of indication of intelligence.

What you & others seem to not understand is that they have just the opposite effect on anyone of any real intelligence.

Resorting to personal 'attacks', etc. are tactics by one that has realized that they have either lost or are losing the 'debate'.

I understand why those that are on a certain side might do that as it is impossible to honestly & truly explain what is not real to be real.

Merry Christmas.
 
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I'm not here to cater to your bullying manner whims & demands & dictates of 'discussions. Why do CTEers demand answers to their irrelevant questions but will absolutely NOT answer questions that pertinent & relevant to the subject of CTE?

My IQ level & medical circumstances for the initial testing are irrelevant to these discussions & a pool forum.

It's your seemingly lack of the specific intelligence that seems to make you incapable of understanding that matters of an intellectual nature are NOT dependent on any physical characteristic such as PJ's ball pocketing abilities & that no video proves matters of an intellectual realm where the WHY is the subject of the 'discussion'.

Also your continual misstating matters such as me being a member of an organization of which I am not requires many posts by PJ, etc. to record corrections.

When did you stopped beating your wife 3 times a week, Dave?

You & others seem to think that these types of tactics are 'cute' & give some form of indication of intelligence.

What you & others seem to not understand is that they have just the opposite effect on anyone of any real intelligence.

Resort to personal 'attacks', etc. are tactics by one that has realized that they have either lost or are losing the 'debate'.

I understand why those that are on a certain side might do that as it is impossible to honestly & truly explain what is not real to be real.

Merry Christmas.


1. OK, now I understand. This genius IQ claim has been posted on another forum by someone else and he opted not to answer it just like you because he had no answers to the question since his claim was total BS like yours.

2. I've never been married so I don't have a wife to beat. But I pity yours from just having to be around you on a daily basis. I'll bet she's glad you spend so much time on a forum. Asking a question like that really shows intelligence on your part. :rolleyes:

3. You expect and demand answers from everyone else but when pressed to answer some yourself you clam up with tons of double talk.

4. You don't understand anything because you live in a world of your own delusional mind.

5. I'm going to ask you nicely, please DO NOT EVER make a post to me again or I will report it as stalking and harassment.
And I mean NEVER!

6. I will do likewise and not make any to you. Starting RIGHT NOW.
 
What's the point of any of your posts? That is, other than to find fault with that which you willfully have no knowledge or understanding of. It's surely not to help anyone be a better pool player.

Balderdash to your nonsense & untruthfulness.

My reasons of participation have been stated many times.

There should be truth in 'advertising'.

If just one individual wastes a year or more that is one individual too many, & the total number that that might be is unknown.

No one is trying to 'stop' "IT" or keep "IT" from helping those that it may.

That is just a false narrative put out to demonize anyone that has any legitimate questions regarding the nature of the WHY.

Best Wishes to ALL during this Merry Christmas Season.
 
Balderdash to your nonsense & untruthfulness.

My reasons of participation have been stated many times.

There should be truth in 'advertising'.

If just one individual wastes a year or more that is one individual too many, & the total number that that might be is unknown.

No one is trying to 'stop' "IT" or keep "IT" from helping those that it may.

That is just a false narrative put out to demonize anyone that has any legitimate questions regarding the nature of the WHY.

Best Wishes to ALL during this Merry Christmas Season.

Why don't you just stop sidetracking the thread to make it about you and your disdain of CTE and it's users?
 
Why don't you just stop sidetracking the thread to make it about you and your disdain of CTE and it's users?

More Bunkum & Balderdash & Hypocrisy by YOU.

You have experience in 'wiping out' ALL of your past posts seemingly to 'punish' others, so how about you wipe out ALL of your posts to or about ME in this thread & then I will go back & do the same regarding my responses to you.

Since you seem to like childish games... I dare you.
 
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Mr. Tucker's numbered methods has a rather high number of markers than other methods.

One can even adapt by instead of aligning 4.5 to 4.5 they can instead aligning a 5 to a 4, etc.

Naturally, as with ALL methods that takes subjective learning of the outcomes of such.

There was a young man at the hall that I frequent that shot rather well & after I made a suggestion regarding his stance he shot even better but did not stick with it as he said he was not comfortable with it.

What he did do was to get Mr. Tucker's material.

He shoots about the same but has a structured method to utilize.

He uses numbers in his daily work on a regular basis & this method seems to suit him well.

The thing is that he was shooting better with the adjusted stance.

Some individuals are more about their comfort levels than they are about the improved end results.

Now, the thread is back on topic.

Let's see who takes it off topic like it was early on & continued to do so until just recently. Perhaps hypocrisy is the necessary ingredient to be an advocate of a certain aiming method.
 
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If just one individual wastes a year or more that is one individual too many, & the total number that that might be is unknown.

I don't know how to even address this statement..it is so bizarre.

It isn't like one guy aiming wrong for a year is going to upset the pool world from a potential WORLD CHAMPION and you and PJ are the SAVIORS of the pool world.

This sounds like Obama rhetoric.

If you play pool and can't aim then maybe you need to be bowling.

Anybody can learn to aim in a week. Whether your fundamentals and stroke follow suit is another matter.
 
I don't think our sense of humor is matched very well. I'm more of a Chris Rock and RON WHITE kinda guy.

Only two prominent comedians come to mind that I don't think are funny... at... all. One is Ellen Degeneres and the other is Dane Cook. I watched about an hour of his stand up on TV and I couldn't figure out for the life of me why people pay to see this guy. I think in an hour he said one or two things that made me almost crack a smile, and that's saying a lot 'cause I like to laugh.
 
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