John Schmidt runs 820

Watched till 80, 90. Classic patterns and moves. Took "plants" inside the stack early, with impeccable results. Watching the patterns I forgot about the buckets. :ROFLMAO:
Reminiscent of Sigel and maybe Mosconi sense. ( I've seen Sigel :ROFLMAO: ) Gotta take small bites on this. Should be a good watch.
Kris_b1104 said:
This was a pretty ballsy shot to continue the run, but with pockets like those, anything is possible lol.

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Kris_b1104 said:
It's not harder for the top pros, they just don't want to dedicate that much time for something meaningless.

If someone with a lot of money paid Joshua Filler to dedicate a few months on straight pool, I can see him easily beating the highest run.

There is no incentive for a top pro to attempt this, besides love for straight pool.

It didn't elevate Jason's career and it won't do anything for Schmidt.
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I would think you could count on your thumbs the number of current players
besides John and Jason that could break 800.
Have you watched either of their high runs?
There are literally dozens of key turning points they faced. And conquered. Simply amazing.

Will Prout
 
Can someone with more technical prowess slow mo that last shot skid?
It looks like he just punted it before being fully set up on the shot.
Hard to see the ball turning at regular speed.

Fantastic run BTW.
Now I don't feel bad for not putting up any decent runs whatsoever on crappy diamonds with old cloth and tight pockets.

Need to go find some bucket GCs
 
i did not see much skid although it may have. but like said hit kind of slow and lazy. and not at the wide part of the pocket. but i guess tough luck.
all good things come to and end and same with the wildwood weed.
 
My lifetime high run is 70 something. I think 72. That’ll never happen again, and that’s with no pressure and no camera. I can understand the mental focus it takes to run multiple hundreds, just thinking about it hurts 🫣
 
ibuycues said:
I would think you could count on your thumbs the number of current players
besides John and Jason that could break 800.
Have you watched either of their high runs?
There are literally dozens of key turning points they faced. And conquered. Simply amazing.

Will Prout
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I would think you could count on less than one hand the number of current incentives there is for a player to even attempt this, given the time and dedication required to accomplish. I think it has less to do with skills. Jayson doesn't even play straight pool and was able to beat the record. Imagine if someone gave a player like Filler/Shane/Yapp/Ko/Biado/Gorst the incentive needed. Those guys don't miss on buckets.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Less than four hours for 820. That's about Mosconi's pace, which was pretty quick, but not quite as fast as Jayson.
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I have previously watched a bunch of Shaw’s 832. And this week Schmidt’s 820.

I have also seen many SSOP Bob Keller’s attempts. And the 285 by Filler posted earlier in this thread.

One thing I noticed very quickly was how fast Shaw and Schmidt both played in comparison to the others I mentioned. Really quick pace. Perhaps that’s what is needed to make large runs: less time between shots, less mental exhaustion?
 
Kris_b1104 said:
I would think you could count on less than one hand the number of current incentives there is for a player to even attempt this, given the time and dedication required to accomplish. I think it has less to do with skills. Jayson doesn't even play straight pool and was able to beat the record. Imagine if someone gave a player like Filler/Shane/Yapp/Ko/Biado/Gorst the incentive needed. Those guys don't miss on buckets.
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These high runs are often stymied by getting pinned or jammed up, not missing straight in shots. Also, larger pockets also increase the risk of scratching. Sure, ball pocketing is easier, but are some drawbacks as well.
 
westcoast said:
These high runs are often stymied by getting pinned or jammed up, not missing straight in shots. Also, larger pockets also increase the risk of scratching. Sure, ball pocketing is easier, but are some drawbacks as well.
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You mean like this almost straight in 10ball that John missed to end his 820 run? He wasn't pinned or jammed up.

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I fast forwarded to the last rack to see how it ended. I saw the spread and was thinking what will he possibly miss? It was the easiest shot imaginable. Crazy!!!

I wonder if the new chalk and reduced skids made players TOO relaxed. Me personally, I would have put a bit of left spin on the shot Schmidt missed when hitting it low speed with follow. Low speed, follow, slight cut, is the #1 shot for skid to occur. Even though I too switched to the new lipstick chalks, I still use the same anti-skid spins as the Master Chalk days.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
I would think you could count on less than one hand the number of current incentives there is for a player to even attempt this, given the time and dedication required to accomplish. I think it has less to do with skills. Jayson doesn't even play straight pool and was able to beat the record. Imagine if someone gave a player like Filler/Shane/Yapp/Ko/Biado/Gorst the incentive needed. Those guys don't miss on buckets.
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I personally don't think Shane, Yapp, Biado, or Gorst would be able to do it with a 1MM prize on the line. The reason is they are slowish players. I think the only type of player that can realistically run over 500-600-700-800 is Shaw/Filler/Schmidt/Mosconi/etc. Those guys RUN around the table.

I didn't think Schmidt had the ability for 800 as he is below the others in overall game, but he proved me wrong:) His speed, however, is as fast as that group.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I personally don't think Shane, Yapp, Biado, or Gorst would be able to do it with a 1MM prize on the line. The reason is they are slowish players. I think the only type of player that can realistically run over 500-600-700-800 is Shaw/Filler/Schmidt/Mosconi/etc. Those guys RUN around the table.
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You didn't think Schmidt would run 800+ but here we are lol. What about Arseni/Melling/Soufi? They are fast.
 
since there really isn't a sanctioned official record and never was. it will keep getting broken over time as there is an interest in doing it.

so it really doesn't pay to spend the effort, as your new record will disappear soon in the future and be lost to the minds of most.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
You didn't think Schmidt would run 800+ but here we are lol. What about Arseni/Melling/Soufi? They are fast.
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If there was a 1MM prize to beat 831 I’d pick Soufli over Shane/Gorst/Biado. His ability is a hair less. But his pace of play is Filler/Shaw/Schmidt speed. Plus he’s hungrier than the rest.

Melling too would be perfect, but he might be too far past his prime, idk. I’m not familiar with Arseni.

Basically anyone at 800 Fargo that shoots FAST I’d give the edge over Shane and Gorst. Especially if they are hungry.
 
maha said:
since there really isn't a sanctioned official record and never was. it will keep getting broken over time as there is an interest in doing it.

so it really doesn't pay to spend the effort, as your new record will disappear soon in the future and be lost to the minds of most.
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yea, especially with the level of play today
 
No matter how straight you shoot you need some knowledge of the break shot. It's not just luck to get a shot after the break 60 times in a row. Not saying those guys couldn't learn, but they're not going to just step up and run 1000 balls right away. (Filler maybe, I guess he practices w/a lot of straight pool.)

Speaking of, what about the first shot in that last rack? That's the only rack I watched, but I'm guessing it must have been one of the lowest % shots he had in the whole run. It looks like he contemplated the 3 in the side, but there's a big scratch off the 11 ball.
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freds said:
No matter how straight you shoot you need some knowledge of the break shot. It's not just luck to get a shot after the break 60 times in a row. Not saying those guys couldn't learn, but they're not going to just step up and run 1000 balls right away. (Filler maybe, I guess he practices w/a lot of straight pool.)

Speaking of, what about the first shot in that last rack? That's the only rack I watched, but I'm guessing it must have been one of the lowest % shots he had in the whole run. It looks like he contemplated the 3 in the side, but there's a big scratch off the 11 ball.
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Yeah. I can’t believe he went for that combo instead of the cut in the side (or cross side bank). The camera angle must lie. Or maybe he thought the cut in the side was a dead scratch?

And then missed a hanger 10!

Ps I’m not criticizing someone who just ran 820! Just surprised as hell.
 
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