Johnny Archer

Like some one said earlier , Mosconi Cup is actually more of an extreme TAR match

You have Team USA against Europe , and lets face it the Europeans have been stronger for a good while as a team ,

Team USA has had some of the best individual players in the world , but they just have never gelled together like Team Europe has

I think SVB is still the top player in the world but he has some mental clutter to get through when it comes to the Mosconi cup , understandable with the last five years of losses

The USA has not put a team together that can play as well as a team as the individual players do

Also I would like to see a Team of USA , Phillipines , and Taiwan against Europe then we get to see a true international competition , or have each individual country field a team , for a big Team style Tournement format just my humble opinion
 
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JAM said:
If you want to get down to brass tacks, it's the BCA's fault. They have turned their back on professional pool. While European countries stand behind their players with organizational entities, providing stipends to travel overseas, et cetera, look at our BCA. Zilch, nadda, nothing for American pros

BCA sucks a big weenie! That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. :mad:
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I don't know that much about the BCA. But pool in the US is on life support. It seems that Brunswick is more concerned with professional Bass fisherman than professional pool players.
 
sjm said:
You have a good sense of humor. Johnny finishes higher than Dechaine .... never.
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You have a better sense of humor:) pair them together at approximately the same age and then we can see! JA is 20 something anymore and I'm pretty sure MD doesn't have to worry about life priorities like a family and kids!

JA would drill MD a new a$$hole! MD is a phenomenal player, but sorry, he's no where near JA! Remember, JA made player of the decade, there is a reason for that!
 
sjm said:
The omission of Archer, a player that went 6-0 in 2012, in what was arguably the finest ever Mosconi performance by a player on either team was ridiculous, but less ridiculous than the omission of Dechaine.



Yes, we went to battle leaving two of our three biggest weapons home.
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Earl is one of the weapons left out aswell

I agree Dechaine and/or Jonny should be considered for next year or atleast go by ratings throughout the season
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liakos said:
You have a better sense of humor:) pair them together at approximately the same age and then we can see! JA is 20 something anymore and I'm pretty sure MD doesn't have to worry about life priorities like a family and kids!

JA would drill MD a new a$$hole! MD is a phenomenal player, but sorry, he's no where near JA! Remember, JA made player of the decade, there is a reason for that!
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Agreed. Mike D in his twenties is nowhere player near the player Johnny was in his twenties. But Mike D's the better player today and he proves it in virtually every event in which both he and Archer participate. Mike would win pretty easily in a long race.
 
sjm said:
Agreed. Mike D in his twenties is nowhere player near the player Johnny was in his twenties. But Mike D's the better player today and he proves it in virtually every event in which both he and Archer participate. Mike would win pretty easily in a long race.
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I would guess that people would put up the other half of the action for Johnny if you want to back Mike against him in a race to 21 or more. Especially if you want to play in the Atlanta area.
 
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cueman said:
I would guess that Johnny would take the action if you backed Mike against him in a race to 21 or more.
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I highly doubt it. When was the last time Archer gambled against one of elite? The longer the race, the more I like Mike. FYI, Earl only got to 11 when he played a race to 25 against Mike.
 
sjm said:
Agreed. Mike D in his twenties is nowhere player near the player Johnny was in his twenties. But Mike D's the better player today and he proves it in virtually every event in which both he and Archer participate. Mike would win pretty easily in a long race.
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If they play today, I'm not going argue races to 11 or 15! But I think anything more than 21, I have to give JA a slight edge!

Remember, SVB horsefuc%ed MD! JA did beat SVB!

Again, not knocking MD, I just don't consider MD in the same class of player!

Same thing with SVB, I personally think he's one of the best players on the planet today, but as far as the mosconi goes, he hasn't really played well(because it's not his style), personally, I would cut SVB! If MD can start playing in the bigger tourneys and get some out of country experience, he may have a shot! But until he gets his feet wet, MD will be an awesome LOCAL player!
 
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JAM said:
If you want to get down to brass tacks, it's the BCA's fault. They have turned their back on professional pool. While European countries stand behind their players with organizational entities, providing stipends to travel overseas, et cetera, look at our BCA. Zilch, nadda, nothing for American pros

BCA sucks a big weenie! That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. :mad:
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Got to be some history behind that claim! How can you say it's the BCA's fault? Every year they shift money from their big national amateur events to add money to their pro events. In other words they give special consideration to the pros at the expense of their primary benefactors: the amateurs. You may disagree but at least give credit for proper use of the colon.
 
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SWRLE said:
Got to be some history behind that claim! How can you say it's the BCA's fault? Every year they shift money from their big national amateur events to add money to their pro events. In other words they give special consideration to the pros at the expense of their primary benefactors: the amateurs. You may disagree but at least give credit for proper use of the colon.
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I think you're confused. There is no pro event put on by the BCA anymore. The BCA league was sold years ago to Mark Griffin. The BCA puts no money in professional pool as far as helping promote it and keeping the American professional players in stroke. They don't give a damn, quite frankly.

The only colon I'm seeing as it pertains to the BCA is an intestinal carrier.
 
Just to make it clear if somebody wish to know, here the (short version) criteria of Europe for Mosconi Cup. I'm sure US players and governing bodies could come up with something similar, if not already in place!

"There are three automatic spots available on Team Europe drawn from three separate rankings; the Euro Tour rankings made up of five events, a World event list made up of the China Open, World 9-ball Championship and October's US Open, and a list combining all eight events. The remaining two players will be wildcard picks."

Happy shooting!! :)



jmhanson_21 said:
Considering how much this tournament seems to mean to the fans, it would be nice to see an articulable system in place to help select the players. The Mosconi Cup standings, or something similar. That's how the Rider Cup is selected. You could still provide some autonomy for the captain by allowing a captain's pick or two, if the top 3 in the points standings got automatic selections. I know it's difficult without a standard tour, and you can't really include the foreign tournaments, because the travel can only be afforded by the sponsored players. However, with the SBE and the US Open, US Open Bar Table events, DCC, World Straight Pool tourney in New York, I think there might be enough tournaments to give the players a fair shot.

It would also provide more meaning to all of the events and increase the importance of placing well. This type of system would also ensure that a guy like Mike Dechaine, who plays in as many tournaments in the U.S. as anyone, and does better than most (other than Shane), would actually get a fair shake. I know he seems to rub a lot of people the wrong way, but to not even be considered strikes me as petty and equally deplorable. It would also provide discussion and something for the fans to monitor.
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overlord said:
I don't know that much about the BCA. But pool in the US is on life support. It seems that Brunswick is more concerned with professional Bass fisherman than professional pool players.
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Tap, tap, tap. It's becoming more and more obvious to mainstream pool peeps now what the BCA is doing, which is nothing to help professional pool. It's outrageous. They should remove themselves from pool altogether and concentrate on sales.
 
itsfroze said:
Yes me too ! But with Mike racking and Johnny picking lint
that match would have to take about a week to finish. :D
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That would be quite a match to see! :D

There's a strong contingency of Mike Dechaine supporters in New England region. Everybody likes to root for the home team. I get that.

At this stage of his career, he has not attained anywhere near the accomplishments that Johnny Archer has in Johnny's career. I think sometimes people have selective memory when it comes to comparing one player to another player, especially when they come from different eras.

That would be like comparing, say, Buddy Hall to Shane Van Boening today. Of course, the younger pool enthusiasts will claim Shane is much better than Buddy Hall ever thought about being, mainly because they have never seen Buddy Hall in his prime. It's two different eras in pool. There's no comparison that can ever be made becuase Buddy Hall in his prime will never get the opportunity to play Shane Van Boening in his prime.

If Mike Dechaine exerts more effort into a little PR to reach out to people who don't know him and don't live in the New England region, it would do him more good, I think, in the long run. Sure, he can play and is a strong player, no question. Is he of the same caliber as Johnny Archer? Not even close. But Mike is still in the middle of his career and has many more years to climb that ladder. I wish him all the very best! :)
 
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