Johnny Damon and Kevin Trudeau

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jjinfla

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I see it sure does pay to know KT. Johnny Damon made an appearance at the Orlando IPT tournament and got noticed by the powers to be in New York. He just signed a 54 million dollar contract to play with the Yankees.

And all because he was gracious enough to come to a pool tournament sponsored by Kevin Trudeau.

Yep. No other reason that I can think of.

And Jennifer Barretta is going to star in a pool movie - 9 ball. She was sure popular, and attracting a lot of attention in Orlando also. Could KT have helped her?

Will Karen, Allison and Kelly also be in the movie?

Sarah Ellerby sure was stunning. I wouldn't be surprised to see her in it too.

Who knows what other great benefits will befall the IPT Champions. Owning that IPT card sure is taking on greater and greater value every day. And this is just the beginning.

The weaker players better go out and buy a Diamond table, shim it to 4 1/4" and practice, practice, practice. Because the better players are doing that.

And find a sparring partner and play races to 8 five times a day just like in the tournaments. I'm available to get beat up. LOL.

Jake
 
Dang! I shoulda signed up for the IPT

I sure wish I had signed up for the IPT now. I don't care to get tangled up in that dog and pony show but I would be happy to get a fifty million dollar contract to play for the Yankees.

By the way, did Johnny play any baseball before going to Orlando or is this his first try at it?

Hu


jjinfla said:
I see it sure does pay to know KT. Johnny Damon made an appearance at the Orlando IPT tournament and got noticed by the powers to be in New York. He just signed a 54 million dollar contract to play with the Yankees.

And all because he was gracious enough to come to a pool tournament sponsored by Kevin Trudeau.

Yep. No other reason that I can think of.

And Jennifer Barretta is going to star in a pool movie - 9 ball. She was sure popular, and attracting a lot of attention in Orlando also. Could KT have helped her?

Will Karen, Allison and Kelly also be in the movie?

Sarah Ellerby sure was stunning. I wouldn't be surprised to see her in it too.

Who knows what other great benefits will befall the IPT Champions. Owning that IPT card sure is taking on greater and greater value every day. And this is just the beginning.

The weaker players better go out and buy a Diamond table, shim it to 4 1/4" and practice, practice, practice. Because the better players are doing that.

And find a sparring partner and play races to 8 five times a day just like in the tournaments. I'm available to get beat up. LOL.

Jake
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Sir, do you really believe what you are saying?

Why are you so kissy, kissy about Mr. Trudeau?

Did you blast Mr. Trudeau at first and now you want to make up with him?

Or are you just "pulling a string" to the posters?
 
Sweet Marissa said:
Jennifer isn't on the IPT roster. I hope to see her at the qualifier, though!
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Oh, I thought this was what you were referring to:

'And Jennifer Barretta is going to star in a pool movie - 9 ball. She was sure popular, and attracting a lot of attention in Orlando also. Could KT have helped her?'
 
ShootingArts said:
I sure wish I had signed up for the IPT now. I don't care to get tangled up in that dog and pony show but I would be happy to get a fifty million dollar contract to play for the Yankees.

By the way, did Johnny play any baseball before going to Orlando or is this his first try at it?

Hu
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Did Efren ever play any pool before he got tangled up with KT and won that $200,000? Some dog and pony show.
 
Im not sure if you re kidding about Johnny Damon.But I believe he won the MVP for the world series with the Red Sox 2 years ago.It was Kt who was starstruck with Damon not the other way around.i think they are both on equal footing as far as money is concerned.
 
I'm interpreting the initial post in this thread as nothing but humor. Judged as humor, it gets high marks from me. I definitely had a good laugh!
 
sjm said:
I'm interpreting the initial post in this thread as nothing but humor. Judged as humor, it gets high marks from me. I definitely had a good laugh!
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Ah a ray of hope shines out there.

Yes I had my tongue firmly planted in cheek.
 
that is what I assumed

jjinfla said:
Ah a ray of hope shines out there.

Yes I had my tongue firmly planted in cheek.
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That is what I assumed . . . or at least hoped! Some of the other posts about the wonders of kevin trudeau leave me to wonder!

Hu
 
But you have to admit that KT sure does have charm and charisma. I just watched his Natural Cures ad on TV again. I think I would trust him a lot more than those "faith healers" in Churches. Or ministers who used to claim that they "speak in tongues". How many people have been swindled out of their life savings by so called ministers. They claim to be able to heal your body and if you give them enough money they will guarantee you will go to heaven.

A friend's mother sent off over $40,000 to some kind of ministry before he found out and could stop her. They just kept calling and calling and she would send them check after check.

And of course there is Merck and their drug vioxx. How many did they sell after they knew it was not safe? How many doctors knew it was not safe and still prescribed it?

KT is most likely more honest now than a lot of us because he is in the fish bowl and everyone is watching him. If he does something wrong there will be plenty of people ready to point it out.

Jake
 
never get me to disagree about plenty more like him!

You will never get me to disagree with you that there are plenty more out there playing the same game and worse. If there is a heaven and hell there is a special corner of hell reserved for those who scam people in the name of God.

The IPT may succeed. If it does it will be because of KT's money and in spite of his management. Even most of those that are his supporters realize that his words won't stand up to close scrutiny.

His reasons for the tour are unknown to anyone but KT and may be as simple as thumbing his nose at the FCC and getting his book infomercial on the air or he may be indeed seeking public notoriety and fame which would do the pool world no harm if that were the reason he is empire building. Then again, he may have other reasons entirely. I don't have the ability to throw out the obvious BS and then buy other things he says that might or might not be true wholecloth. This leaves me very skeptical of every statement made.

Like many, I really didn't think he could do the pool world much harm until I saw his first production. Now I am not nearly so sure. Yes, he is paying a few players a ton of money but if pool becomes just the filler for an infomercial for most of the public then he will have done the pool world great harm.

My name is unknown to anyone on this board but I was playing pretty serious pool thirty years ago using the same name. You couldn't get me in a tournament because most evenings playing cheap games paid more than any tournament I could enter. Also gambling was pretty much a lock that I would make somewhere between a day's wage and a week's wage for a union journeyman or foreman which was my day job when I worked, while the tournaments were much more of a gamble. It didn't require hustling to do this either, just gambling with the gamblers.

Looking at the tournament listings now, it is possible to play tournaments if you cherry pick. If the IPT kills off all of what will suddenly be second tier pool tournaments and associations then disappears in a few years, then again great damage will have been done to the pool world.

Despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth by many, looking at the pool world today and comparing it to where it was throughout the seventies it is easy to see that the pool world really is much improved.

KT could be the greatest thing for pool since leather tips and chalk, or he could set it back to seventies levels or worse. Not knowing his real reasons for the IPT and knowing he is a BS artist I am left very uneasy after seeing his first big production that was damaging to pool in my opinion, or would have been had the public actually seen it, and hearing how thrilled he claims to be with it. It will be interesting to see if any real pool hits the public airwaves from all of the footage shot at the invitational. Great footage means nothing if it is left on the cutting room floor. If it is replaced with garbage then aired, it is indeed worse than nothing.

Hu



jjinfla said:
But you have to admit that KT sure does have charm and charisma. I just watched his Natural Cures ad on TV again. I think I would trust him a lot more than those "faith healers" in Churches. Or ministers who used to claim that they "speak in tongues". How many people have been swindled out of their life savings by so called ministers. They claim to be able to heal your body and if you give them enough money they will guarantee you will go to heaven.

A friend's mother sent off over $40,000 to some kind of ministry before he found out and could stop her. They just kept calling and calling and she would send them check after check.

And of course there is Merck and their drug vioxx. How many did they sell after they knew it was not safe? How many doctors knew it was not safe and still prescribed it?

KT is most likely more honest now than a lot of us because he is in the fish bowl and everyone is watching him. If he does something wrong there will be plenty of people ready to point it out.

Jake
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I have to disagree with you.I am not a big KT fan but there is absolutly nothing anyone could do to make pool worse then it has been for years.You might have not liked the 1st production but I think it may appeal to the masses who normaly would not watch pool on T.V.
I do know that if you watch television recently there are ppol tables on a lot of commercials and in T.V. programming in general.I even saw one of those Home & garden shops and they talked about the billiard room for the new house that was being built.I'm not sure if it will make it as a sport s show or a reality show but it has been getting some reconigition lately.
Either way I have my own table and a real nice billiard hall that I can go to and its no skin off my back if it makes it or not.
JMHO FWIW
 
did you see that production?

Bob,

Did you see that production? There wasn't enough pool shown on it for the pool to be more than a little filler. Even during much of that KT was doing a very unprofessional voice over. There wasn't anything there to appeal to anyone but the infomercial fans. Of course I noticed that he was showing it at two or three in the morning in some markets so maybe that is who he is targeting. That definitely isn't "the masses" however.

I really didn't think he could hurt pool as a whole either. However if that is his idea of a pool production and it becomes the face of pool to "the masses" I will be proven wrong in that thought.

I wish the IPT well for a handful of reasons. Now I am left with the feeling that it will fail unless the money can outweigh all other considerations.

Hu


bobroberts said:
I have to disagree with you.I am not a big KT fan but there is absolutly nothing anyone could do to make pool worse then it has been for years.You might have not liked the 1st production but I think it may appeal to the masses who normaly would not watch pool on T.V.
I do know that if you watch television recently there are ppol tables on a lot of commercials and in T.V. programming in general.I even saw one of those Home & garden shops and they talked about the billiard room for the new house that was being built.I'm not sure if it will make it as a sport s show or a reality show but it has been getting some reconigition lately.
Either way I have my own table and a real nice billiard hall that I can go to and its no skin off my back if it makes it or not.
JMHO FWIW
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Shooting Arts,

I can agree with the following:

Looking at the tournament listings now, it is possible to play tournaments if you cherry pick. If the IPT kills off all of what will suddenly be second tier pool tournaments and associations then disappears in a few years, then again great damage will have been done to the pool world.


An example would be Tommy Kennedy and the tour that he runs. If he makes it in the IPT and starts earning 100K or more a year then he would be a fool to kill himself driving all over the country trying to run his tournament.

Same thing with John Di Toro and his Florida Pro Tour. Although I believe he does have more help running his tour and doesn't have to travel as far.

But I doubt that any tournaments that are run by people who are not in the IPT will be hurt at all. The IPT players will still be allowed to play in them. At least in the beginning.

I believe that computer message boards and cell phones have killed the chances of highly skilled players being able to go around the country playing for money without word getting out about how good they are before they can collect the money.

Especially with the use of camera phones. It used to be that only Vegas had that ability. Now anybody can snap a picture and send it out asking, "who is this guy?"

January and February should prove to be very interesting for the future of pool.

Jake
 
Johnny Damnon

jjinfla said:
I see it sure does pay to know KT. Johnny Damon made an appearance at the Orlando IPT tournament and got noticed by the powers to be in New York. He just signed a 54 million dollar contract to play with the Yankees.

And all because he was gracious enough to come to a pool tournament sponsored by Kevin Trudeau.
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Overheard a disgruntled Red Sox fan say...
Johnny of Nazareth?
Looks like Jesus.
Throws like Mary.
Acts like Judas.
;)
 
jjinfla said:
Shooting Arts,

I can agree with the following:

Looking at the tournament listings now, it is possible to play tournaments if you cherry pick. If the IPT kills off all of what will suddenly be second tier pool tournaments and associations then disappears in a few years, then again great damage will have been done to the pool world.


An example would be Tommy Kennedy and the tour that he runs. If he makes it in the IPT and starts earning 100K or more a year then he would be a fool to kill himself driving all over the country trying to run his tournament.

Same thing with John Di Toro and his Florida Pro Tour. Although I believe he does have more help running his tour and doesn't have to travel as far.

But I doubt that any tournaments that are run by people who are not in the IPT will be hurt at all. The IPT players will still be allowed to play in them. At least in the beginning.
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Agree with you for the most part, but one thng concerns me a bit. As the IPT has no announced schedule, tours like John DiToro's, Mike Zuglan's, and Tommy Kennedy's are not afforded the opportunity to schedule around the IPT events. If John, Mike and Tommy lock in venues and dates, which may be necessary plannng steps even now for 2006, they may get burned if an IPT event conflicts with theirs, as their access to the most premier players hangs in the balance. I'd be surprised is this is not a source of agitation for these outstanding tour coordinators.
 
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