Joss vs Schon vs Pechauer

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tuffstuff07

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I was wondering how the hits were for these three cues. I prefer a steel joint neutral or front weighted cue.

I had a Schon and loved it but money got tight so I sold it. So i was wondering if the joss or pechauer had a good hit to them at all and if either hits similar to a schon for cheaper?
 
All three are very good quality, as you know. I think the schons may be a little nicer, but I like the joss. A joss is 99% of a schon at about 75% of the price. Again, all 3 make really nice cues.
 
jcommie said:
I like Pechauers. Their new piloted speed joint is pretty nice IMO.
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Of the three, I've always liked Jerry's cues the best as far as hit is concerned. Schon makes great looking cues but I can't stand the hit.
 
Pushout said:
Of the three, I've always liked Jerry's cues the best as far as hit is concerned. Schon makes great looking cues but I can't stand the hit.
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Are you a mind reader? That is exactly what I was gonna say, but you already said it! LOL

Jeremy
 
I always thought of these three brands as the top shelf of production cues. I don't think you can go wrong with any. I personally play with a Joss and think it is great. The Schons are a hot item on this site. I would expect to hear some praise on those. I don't know the deal with the Pechauer. Its not they have a bad rep it just isn't as good as it should be. Very nice cue.

In the end I think you should try hitting with all three and see what you feel is the best.
 
I have had a schon for 15 years and love it!! The look, the feel, it's the best cue i've ever played with. Had a custom made viking when i was sponsored by nancy, but i won 2 big tournys as soon as i went back to my schon. Nothing against viking, they are a very good company, and people, i just love my cue!!! Have another one as well.

Just my opinion
 
I have shot with a Schon since '93 and am very familiar with their hit. I have played with about 7 different shafts and I can tell you they are all fairly similar, with the diameter and tip being more of a contributor to variance than the shaft (ie. the shafts are consistent).

My dad has a Joss that I use when I visit to play with him on his pool table and I don't bring my cues along. It plays well, it seems a bit softer to me but I think it is more likely due to the tip being an elk master (I use Talisman mediums). I also have a team member who has a Joss but the taper feels a lot different than my Schons. This makes me believe there is more variation between shafts on Joss and I would highly suggest you play with one before you purchase. Also something to consider you can wait for a used Schon in the wanted/for sale forum and get it for the same price as a Joss.

As for Pechauer I am very unfamiliar with the product but outside of the forums do I hear them compared to the other "top shelf" manufacturers. Maybe it is marketing, maybe it is quality but there is for sure a reason.

Good luck with your decision!

Steve
 
Surprising because Pechauer sponsors a lot of pro tours. J Pechauer cues have a nice stiff taper, and the shafts are usually heavy as hell. Mine is about 4.3 oz and the whole cue is forward balanced as hell.

I personally like Pechauers because of their piloted speed joint bc I'm lazy. And the fact that it doesn't seem to detract from the hit. I would probably rate Pechauers as on par with really high end McDermotts- Pechauers have lifetime warranties just like McDermotts do, although they reserve the right to nullify it if you abuse your cue.

And Jerry's son Joe makes some really nice looking cues- not sure about the hit, never hit with one, but they sure look nice.
 
matcase said:
All three are very good quality, as you know. I think the schons may be a little nicer, but I like the joss. A joss is 99% of a schon at about 75% of the price. Again, all 3 make really nice cues.
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This is true, they are cheaper, but if you ever want to re-sell the pechauer or joss, you're going to take a hit on the price. My advice would be to get an old schon if you can, they play great, if you decide to sell it one day you'll get your money back and possilby then some. On top of that, they are very easy to sell - reason being lots of people like them, which should tell you somthing about how well they play.
 
OK, let's first start with the disclaimer; This is just my experience and personal preference. Clearly YMMV.

While I think Schon cues are among the most beautiful cues on earth, I have never liked the feel of their hit (then again, I was never a fan of the Meucci hit either). That is not a comment on their quality (clearly their quality is awesome). I really wish i did like the feel of their hit as there's one specific Schon cue that I think is the coolest looking cue I've ever seen.

I have always loved the feel & hit of Joss cues. I find they hit very close to the 2 cues I play with regularly, a Huebler H-A & a Scruggs. If you look at the list of super premium production & custom cues (and cue makers)that have spun off from the Joss shop, there's little left to wonder about the brand's quality and appeal. Clearly Dan Janes knows his craft and what players both want and need in a cue. It would seem to me he & his cronies passionately value function over fashion (including Bill Stroud).

Sadly, I've never shot with a Pechauer cue, but have always heard good things. -Z-
 
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I agree with nearly everyone on here. I don't have much experience with a pechauer, but Schon and Joss are very similar. Someone earlier said with Joss you get 99% of a Schon at 75% of the price. This is pretty close to accurate. Schon's definitely have more ivory as Joss use holly for inlays instead, that's about the biggest difference. Schon will certainly have a better resale value out of the three because they are typically thought of as the top of the line production cue. When playing will you be able to tell the difference between Schon and Joss?? Probably not.

Jim
 
I have owned 5 or so Schons, 3 or 4 Joss cues, including a pre-split, and 2 Pechauers. I personally think that, with the exception of the pre-split Joss, the Schons are superior in pretty much every way. The Pechauers would come in second, with the Joss coming in third, simply because the quality of their cues has suffered so much in the last 10-15 years(in terms of hit, at least). I would have put Joss in the middle, say, in the early to mid 90's, but as of right now, I just don't care for them. The main reasons I prefer the Schons are the hit, and resale value. Neither of the Pechauers I had were as good in either facet. Having said that, I do agree that they may well be the second best production cue out there.
 
I don't see how a guy could go wrong with any of the three. To further confuse, you might add Jacoby to this list...
 
pwd72s said:
I don't see how a guy could go wrong with any of the three. To further confuse, you might add Jacoby to this list...
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Confuse him, it's OK. :p I had narrowed down my search (not all that long ago) to a Pechauer (mostly due to the amount of cue for the $moolah$ - was looking at an SP model that was a prototype to the production version)....that is, until I tried a few Jacoby cues!! I know no other way to explain it other than the Pechauer and the Jacoby seemed to have more feedback than the other two cues you asked about. I am VERY happy with my choice in going with a Jacoby cue, but I may have been just as happy had I picked up the Pechauer I was looking at too. After meeting the folks from Jacoby, the choice was clear to me, so I whole-heartedly recommend looking into one of their cues as well (great folks, great customer service, and finely crafted cues - how can you go wrong??!!!). :thumbup:
 
tuffstuff07 said:
I was wondering how the hits were for these three cues. I prefer a steel joint neutral or front weighted cue.

I had a Schon and loved it but money got tight so I sold it. So i was wondering if the joss or pechauer had a good hit to them at all and if either hits similar to a schon for cheaper?
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Unless you really know how to scrutinize I would say they are all about the same. I know the Schon can be ordered with Ivory ferrule and will change the hit fo-sho...(maybe not anymore).

So at this point I would say it's all about the looks! I am familiar w/ Schon's mostly and I have my eye on a few. Also if resale is a question I would say Schon's are most popular...and they are made in my home town!


IMO

Good luck!
 
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