Almost....the object balls are 2" and the cue ball is 1 7/8", so its quite a big adjustment!
Judd is bad for pool
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Almost....the object balls are 2" and the cue ball is 1 7/8", so its quite a big adjustment!
He ran an 8 pack at 9 ball on a Chinese Pool table.
Yes, he also said he isn't prepared to put the practice time in to learn a game that doesn't appeal to him. But never say never.
English snooker balls are all 2 1/16", cue ball too
Indeed...but I was talking about English pool balls (not obvious from the post I replied too admittedly)!
His skills at snooker would decline. I suspect the reason he showed up at the US Open amid a lot of hype was because Matchroom wanted to sell more PPV in England. I doubt he paid his own way.
Bingo. Matchroom is thinking globally and not just the US.
Just making balls is not the whole game of pool, which is what all those snooker fans don't fully understand. He had more class in playing and losing than the fans of his LOL He played some great shots to make the ball, and his banking and kicking was also decent, you just can't live on shot making along against the better players.
I would bet that if the snooker guys actually played pool full time for several months with a coach they would do better in tournaments. Right now they are like those bar players that played for a long time, can make balls but never actually studied how to play so are fodder for even a B level player.
Just making balls is not the whole game in snooker, either. Maybe it is the pool fans that don't fully understand.
The Chinese 8-ball players are saying the same things about SVB and other top pool and snooker players who played but didn't get very far.
I hope the UK Open next year gets the top snooker and English pool players.
let's hope for the best. isn't he stranded in the UK anyway?
Yes he is, which is why he is playing English pool again. He still does have a Joy logo on his shirt so they are still sponsoring him - but I guess the exclusivity in his contract wouldn't have a legal leg to stand on at the moment so they have to allow him to play other variants.
i forgot about that crap. that sucks tbh.
Just curious, have either of you read his endorsement contract to know for sure what he can, and can't do?
Isn't that like assuming if a player is wearing Predator patch, they can't play in any non-predator events?
I think he's probably referring to the case a few years back with Star v Joy, Potts, Hendry etc. weren't allowed to play in non-Joy tournaments (for Chinese 8-Ball), they publicly stated it was due to contract restrictions (who knows what, if anything has changed since). But its not unheard of definitely, I'd imagine snooker players aren't allowed to play on any other pro snooker tour (not that any currently exists, but there will probably be a clause).
Even English 8-Ball (which is effectively amateur with a bit of prize money) had some player restrictions stopping players competing on multiple tours over here!!!
Watching JT was interesting, but to play against Jason Shaw at his game was no match. I think snooker & Pool are essentially apples & oranges. The lone similarity is they both grow on trees.
Was Judd good for pool??? Heck yeah! It's a crowd pleaser just like Earl when he gets unhinged. pure entertainment.
Was Judd good for pool??? Heck yeah! It's a crowd pleaser just like Earl when he gets unhinged. pure entertainment.
One of the greatest tactical differences between pool and snooker is that in pool there is only ever one primary ball (lowest number), but in snooker there's 15 reds - probably 90% of frames are decided by the time you get to the colours - so the defensive game is very different. Snooker players are often playing primarily for distance or into areas so as not to leave a shot on, whereas in pool you are shooting to hook on nearly every safety.
Also, on the equipment side the cushions being pointed in pool compared to a flat edge in snooker makes a huge difference in the amount of side that "takes". In pool you can probably add/remove 70 degrees of angle off a cushion compared to 5-10 degrees on a snooker table. Snooker players have way less experience in using this and will have a hard time even seeing the types of shots that come naturally to a pool player.
Trump (the snooker player) is a class act, and demonstrated that by showing pool the respect it deserves, acknowledging before his match with Jayson that he expected to be "found out" by a pro, helping to bring a new audience to watch one of the best produced pool events in years and remaining positive throughout, even after a heavy loss. I hope he enjoyed it enough to get himself a cue (!) and give it another go in the future.
Great post! Thanks for these insights.
The first 25 mins of this is worth a listen:
podcasts.apple.com
Its a podcast with Dave Hendon (snooker commentator and editor of Snooker Scene) and Phil Yates (snooker & occasionally 9-Ball commentator for Sky Sports), this episode talks a lot about Judd Trump in the US Open, a new found respect for pool and the potential for snooker in the US!
After the first 25 mins it goes onto more traditional snooker stuff (such as should they move away from the Crucible to a bigger venue), so may be of less interest to pool fans.
Snooker Scene Podcast episode 172 - Diving Into Pool
Podcast Episode · Snooker Scene Podcast · 21/09/2021 · 50m
podcasts.apple.com
Its a podcast with Dave Hendon (snooker commentator and editor of Snooker Scene) and Phil Yates (snooker & occasionally 9-Ball commentator for Sky Sports), this episode talks a lot about Judd Trump in the US Open, a new found respect for pool and the potential for snooker in the US!
After the first 25 mins it goes onto more traditional snooker stuff (such as should they move away from the Crucible to a bigger venue), so may be of less interest to pool fans.