Jump Shot Question?

Pangit

Pangit

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I normally wouldn't try it....bad form unless you know what you are doing? Nothing worse than some dumbass smoking over the table....or think's they a jump shot hero"

Anyway...I have short fat fingers...off the rail no problem...but when I have to elevate flat off the bed of the table...I just can't get the angle and power...I'd rather kick at it.
 
The intelligence level on this forum is increasing exponentially as the days go by............NOT!!!

Maniac (like mass communicating with a cyberspace full of drunken imbeciles)
 
Are you asking if it's bad form to try it?

If you're terrible at it and you're likely to hurt the cloth maybe. Otherwise, if it's allowed, I don't see anything wrong with it. We all gotta learn somehow.
 
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a table damaged by a jump shot?
I would think the possibilty is much greater if they tried the illegal scoop jump.
 
Pangit said:
off the rail no problem...but when I have to elevate flat off the bed of the table...I just can't get the angle and power...I'd rather kick at it.
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Try making your thumb bend back as much as possible, as this creates a bowed thumb shape which gives two distinct contact points for the cue at each end of the bow, thus letting you keep the cue elevated enough while at the same time having more stability than you'd have doing a bridgeless air jump.

(If that doesn't make sense I'll take a pic next time I'm at the pool hall.)
 
BobTfromIL said:
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a table damaged by a jump shot?
I would think the possibilty is much greater if they tried the illegal scoop jump.
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I taught myself to jump (with the help of a Tony Robles Billiards Digest article and Robin Dodson's "Mastering the Jump Shot" DVD) on my home table. I have also taught at least three others who had never legally jumped a ball to properly jump, also on my home table. All I have to negatively show for all these "rookie" attempts is several pin-sized holes in the cloth in various areas of the table. The holes are not large enough to affect play, nor are they all that easy to spot without actually looking for them. This is the result of literally HUNDREDS of jump-shot attempts. IMO, the positives of this FAR outweigh the negatives. It is a neat thing to witness the ear-to-ear smiles from the faces of those who have just executed their first legal jump-shot. I actually had one person successfully jump a ball on his VERY FIRST attempt.

I have done far more damage to my home table from BREAKING, imo.

Maniac
 
BobTfromIL said:
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a table damaged by a jump shot?
I would think the possibilty is much greater if they tried the illegal scoop jump.
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Agree, never saw anyone hurt a table with a standard jump. By the time someone is 'into pool' enough to even try a legal jump, they usually have a little control over the stick. They won't punch all the way into the slate. If anything most beginners are too scared to plow right through it (part of the reason they don't get the ball airborne).

Scoop jumps are horrible but never saw one rip the cloth either, however I've seen some full masses do it, whether competently executed or not.
 
CreeDo said:
Agree, never saw anyone hurt a table with a standard jump. By the time someone is 'into pool' enough to even try a legal jump, they usually have a little control over the stick. They won't punch all the way into the slate. If anything most beginners are too scared to plow right through it (part of the reason they don't get the ball airborne).

Scoop jumps are horrible but never saw one rip the cloth either, however I've seen some full masses do it, whether competently executed or not.
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I agree, been getting some crap from a couple of local guys. I can execute the shot and I'm not really concerned about damaging the table. I also agree with Maniac that breaks tend to do more damage. When I'm at home and practising I do put down an piece of old cloth to prevent spots from the jump, doesn't seem to effect the shot.
 
BobTfromIL said:
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a table damaged by a jump shot?
I would think the possibilty is much greater if they tried the illegal scoop jump.
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Whenever I execute a jump shot I put a white "burn" mark on the cloth. I'm told this is the result of friction between the ball and cloth. It doesn't destroy the cloth, but the white marks make it look "old before its time."

Since we put new cloth on a few weeks ago, I use a small (2" x 3") microfiber cloth under the CB for jumping and breaking. It's so thin it doesn't effect the shot, but it eliminates the burn marks.

Re: the OP -- sometimes we type a headline thinking we've got a question. But as we type the body copy, it really just turns into a statement. No big deal.
 
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BobTfromIL said:
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a table damaged by a jump shot?
I would think the possibilty is much greater if they tried the illegal scoop jump.
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I did, actually, just last week. However, the stick had a G-10 tip, the guys were trying to jump a ball with about an inch of clearance, and they were really stroking through the CB. Even then it was very little damage, probably slightly more than what Maniac noticed on his table, and was pretty easily rubbed out to the point you'd really have to be looking for it to see it.
 
Personally I think jump cues should be illegal to use in tournaments. Everyone should be forced to learn how to kick at ball.
 
BobTfromIL said:
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a table damaged by a jump shot?
I would think the possibilty is much greater if they tried the illegal scoop jump.
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Yes and I've been the one to do it.

I was at a singles qualifier and made a jump shot. As I was on the downstroke someone hit my elbow and the tip tore through the cloth and slid on the slate.


At least I made the shot...
 
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